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yeehawfactor
02-25-2007, 05:57 PM
second story down

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/feb07/feb26news

atmo
02-25-2007, 06:05 PM
his amber light will blink intermittently until after the tdf.
he'll peak for worlds atmo.
very jp atmo.

yeehawfactor
02-25-2007, 06:09 PM
lightstrong

lets hope he doesn't give his silver medal at the worlds the same treatment (http://www.velogogo.com/News/OneSecondHincapieWillNeverForget)

obtuse
02-25-2007, 06:44 PM
he'll race with a half cast methinks.

obtuse

Erik.Lazdins
02-25-2007, 07:40 PM
Its about 8 weeks to Paris Roubaix. While its possible for the fracture to heal, can he train, or is this a game of sorts?

atmo
02-25-2007, 07:43 PM
Its about 8 weeks to Paris Roubaix. While its possible for the fracture to heal, can he train, or is this a game of sorts?
ah-so hincapie is now hancapie atmo.

oldfatslow
02-25-2007, 07:46 PM
Very sad news indeed. I had hoped George would get Paris Roubaix this time. Perhaps there is still a chance but this is very disappointing.

Heal fast George.

stevep
02-25-2007, 07:53 PM
hell race pr.
bet on it.

shinomaster
02-25-2007, 08:00 PM
hell race pr.
bet on it.

Even with an owie?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=owie

Big Dan
02-25-2007, 08:08 PM
the storyline is set........

:cool:

Climb01742
02-25-2007, 08:12 PM
given what GH did saturday, i hope disco puts entire team at georgie's back for a classic this year, if not a spring classic, then in the fall. GH earned it in spades saturday.

atmo
02-25-2007, 08:15 PM
ah - i think the most they will do is offer
him a spot in the second team car after
he retires atmo.

manet
02-25-2007, 08:22 PM
time-out guys

yeehawfactor
02-25-2007, 08:22 PM
who sez he wants to work for the team. maybe he'd rather count the money from his clothing line.

Bill Bove
02-25-2007, 08:55 PM
A good friend of mine who is tight with his brother says that George will race at least one more year after this, probably with T-Mobile.

KJMUNC
02-25-2007, 10:40 PM
If his goal is to finally crack the P-R nut, why not saddle up with a squad who actually cares about the Classics? Predictor-Lotto would be a great spot for him, although he might not be so sweet on riding with Hoste after he dropped GH like a bad habit on the Valkenberg last year.

Plus, he'd have a couple of homeboys in Horner and Freddie...

pdxmech13
02-25-2007, 10:49 PM
hancapie, that is a good-in

no way he'll miss p'r

amstel or liege if he does

classic1
02-26-2007, 12:35 AM
George has just discovered another way of loosing P-R

stevep
02-26-2007, 05:44 AM
who sez he wants to work for the team. maybe he'd rather count the money from his clothing line.

wouldnt take him long


my view of the tragedy of george is that he gave up his own career for the texan.
he coulda been a very good classics rider with a different program.
his palmares would be very different if he rode w/ lotto or quickstep or some belgian outfit.

sspielman
02-26-2007, 06:27 AM
George not race Paris-Roubaix?..... This could really upset the outcome of the race...Who will occupy spot #36 in the standings?

bostondrunk
02-26-2007, 06:43 AM
George not race Paris-Roubaix?..... This could really upset the outcome of the race...Who will occupy spot #36 in the standings?

lol

Get your facts straight. It'd be more like 25th. If he keeps it upright.....and his teammates don't attack him..........and his 'life coach' cheers him on....

Elefantino
02-26-2007, 07:21 AM
ah-so hincapie is now hancapie atmo.

Hancapie or Handicapie?

my view of the tragedy of george is that he gave up his own career for the texan.
he coulda been a very good classics rider with a different program.
his palmares would be very different if he rode w/ lotto or quickstep or some belgian outfit.

I don't feel sorry for George. He's made a nice living at the sport, won some big races, won a stage of the Tour, married a podium girl who speaks in a French accent (and for all we know wears maids outfits at home in Greenville), started what probably will be a successful a clothing company and, at an advancing age for cyclists, still gets paid to do what he loves.

The tragedy is that more good cyclists never get the chance to be like him.

manet
02-26-2007, 07:28 AM
a sideways move to t-mobile
would allow both parties to
continue their racing for
second place finishes.

plus GH could ad pink to
his clothing line.

Ray
02-26-2007, 07:30 AM
I don't feel sorry for him at all. And I respect his record in PR, even if he hasn't won it. Jeez, he finished second once, was arguably the strongest rider in the race another time, and was a significant player at least two other times. Maybe he coulda won with a better team behind him, but it took the likes of Museeuw and Boonen at their best to beat him. Not too shabby. And there's an outside chance he could still win it.

He made a good living playing an important role on one of the best teams of his era and won a few big races along the way. Maybe he could have won one of the major classics on another team - maybe not. Even if he quit today, he had a damn good career and may well have ridden to his fullest potential.

-Ray

93legendti
02-26-2007, 08:50 AM
I don't feel sorry for him at all. And I respect his record in PR, even if he hasn't won it. Jeez, he finished second once, was arguably the strongest rider in the race another time, and was a significant player at least two other times. Maybe he coulda won with a better team behind him, but it took the likes of Museeuw and Boonen at their best to beat him. Not too shabby. And there's an outside chance he could still win it.

He made a good living playing an important role on one of the best teams of his era and won a few big races along the way. Maybe he could have won one of the major classics on another team - maybe not. Even if he quit today, he had a damn good career and may well have ridden to his fullest potential.

-Ray
Not to mention the fact he has received his share of 8 Grand Tour winner's earnings, on top of his salary. He's done well.

As for the talk of a transfer toT-Mobile? That's where riders go to have the worst year of their careers.

stevep
02-26-2007, 03:58 PM
Hancapie or Handicapie?
I don't feel sorry for George.
The tragedy is that more good cyclists never get the chance to be like him.

i dont feel sorry for him either.
but i thk his personal opportunities were conceded to armstrongs.
thats all.
he has made a living at it, though, and many have not.

coylifut
02-26-2007, 04:28 PM
I hope he sticks around for a while. I don't understand why folks are so harsh on him. Winning bike races is really hard. BTW - the only thing the same about T Mobile is the kit. It's a completely different team top to bottom. It doesnt mean they'll win anymore races, but the Good-Fruit era is over.

chrisroph
02-26-2007, 05:17 PM
my view of the tragedy of george is that he gave up his own career for the texan.
he coulda been a very good classics rider with a different program.
his palmares would be very different if he rode w/ lotto or quickstep or some belgian outfit.

Couldn't agree more. He has had a good career. It could have been a lot better with a different team, a different focus and possibly some different tactics, although it is really hard to make judgments about tactics based on the snippets you get to see on us tv.

obtuse
02-26-2007, 06:57 PM
fact:

growth hormone is my wife's second favorite cyclist after a pre-mustache fabian cancellara. she always cheers for him and asks me why i have to call him "growth hormone"....i tell her to look at him. her comeback is always "look at you"....then we fight...

obtuse

AgilisMerlin
02-26-2007, 07:11 PM
GEORGE wearing Pink, that makes me smile A LOT :banana: :no: :D :butt:



AMERLIn

Len J
02-26-2007, 07:11 PM
Couldn't agree more. He has had a good career. It could have been a lot better with a different team, a different focus and possibly some different tactics, although it is really hard to make judgments about tactics based on the snippets you get to see on us tv.....


great natural talent......
Appears to be a good teammate......

But, he has always struck me as not the brightest bulb in the closet. Watching him hesitate when key moves are made has been painful...I've wanted him to win so many times....but ahe just seems to react...or recognize to late.

Disclaimer...this is from someone who never raced.......so TIFWIW

Len

atmo
02-26-2007, 07:16 PM
maybe the uci can neutralize a spring classic or three
on hincapie's behalf since he won't be in them atmo.

manet
02-26-2007, 08:02 PM
time-out!

Grant McLean
02-26-2007, 08:05 PM
maybe the uci can neutralize a spring classic or three
on hincapie's behalf since he won't be in them atmo.

There may actually be a very simple explaination for George's bad luck.
Is it possible he's been getting these flags mixed up?!?!

g

stevep
02-26-2007, 08:14 PM
fact:

growth hormone is my wife's second favorite cyclist after a pre-mustache fabian cancellara. she always cheers for him and asks me why i have to call him "growth hormone"....i tell her to look at him. her comeback is always "look at you"....then we fight...

obtuse

you forgot to add...
" and she wins, always...one way or the other..."

shinomaster
02-26-2007, 08:50 PM
I hope they don't have to shoot him on account of his broken wrist. :confused:

manet
02-26-2007, 08:59 PM
I hope they don't have to shoot him on account of his broken wrist. :confused:

he's a cyclist, not a porn star

shinomaster
02-26-2007, 09:03 PM
I know.....what kind of porn do you watch? :confused:

obtuse
02-26-2007, 09:04 PM
you forgot to add...
" and she wins, always...one way or the other..."


of course she does. she's much smarter than i and more adept at certain types of martial combat.

obtuse

AgilisMerlin
02-26-2007, 09:44 PM
way to go Tony.............

http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/images/07caliSt6/$file/2.jpg http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/images/07caliSt6/$file/3.jpg http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/images/07caliSt6/$file/4.jpg http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/images/07caliSt6/$file/13.jpg http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/images/07caliSt6/$file/15.jpg http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/images/07caliSt6/$file/16.jpg http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/images/07caliSt6/$file/17.jpg http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/images/07caliSt6/$file/21.jpg

amerliN

atmo
02-26-2007, 10:02 PM
at least it wasn't the fork this time atmo.

pdxmech13
02-27-2007, 12:35 AM
maybe it was the bike

so i was jra and next thing i new............

RIHans
02-27-2007, 01:06 AM
at least it wasn't the fork this time atmo.
Once again, GH is injured early on...a theme?
Not to 'dis GH...But does he have the worst luck?

sspielman
02-27-2007, 06:28 AM
maybe the uci can neutralize a spring classic or three
on hincapie's behalf since he won't be in them atmo.

Ouch....Judging from Discovery's results in the Classics last year, they have already been sufficiently neutralized...

Climb01742
02-27-2007, 08:37 AM
whoa, this is a tough room.

atmo
02-27-2007, 08:46 AM
don't park in the hincapie zone atmo.

93legendti
02-27-2007, 08:49 AM
whoa, this is a tough room.
You can say that again. Not a bad Palmares for a 6'3" rider who is expected to ride the classics to win and be a key teammate in a grand tour or two..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hincapie

The guy has probabaly been on more winning grand tour teams (8) than any other rider.

Spicoli
02-27-2007, 09:10 AM
I don't feel sorry for him at all. And I respect his record in PR, even if he hasn't won it. Jeez, he finished second once, was arguably the strongest rider in the race another time, and was a significant player at least two other times. Maybe he coulda won with a better team behind him, but it took the likes of Museeuw and Boonen at their best to beat him. Not too shabby. And there's an outside chance he could still win it.

He made a good living playing an important role on one of the best teams of his era and won a few big races along the way. Maybe he could have won one of the major classics on another team - maybe not. Even if he quit today, he had a damn good career and may well have ridden to his fullest potential.

-Ray
+1 very well said :cool: very few could do an 1/8 of what he pulled off and hes been doing it for a long long time.

J.Greene
02-27-2007, 09:55 AM
I don't think GH gets enough credit for playing the politics right. Having any kind of career in the shadow of the egomaniac is quite the accomplishment.

JG

pdxmech13
02-27-2007, 10:01 AM
mabee he make a jersey with a built in sling

Grant McLean
02-27-2007, 10:17 AM
You can say that again. Not a bad Palmares for a 6'3" rider who is expected to ride the classics to win and be a key teammate in a grand tour or two..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hincapie

The guy has probabaly been on more winning grand tour teams (8) than any other rider.

If GH wasn't American, he wouldn't be seen as such a great hope.
It's the lack of classics riders from the USA that makes GH the 'star' of the classsics.

There are 50 European pros with better Palmares than GH, and the average
North American cycling fan can't even name them.

Just sayin'....

g

gt6267a
02-27-2007, 10:24 AM
with a roll of duct tape, a swiss army knife, and some super glue i could have this whole mess taken care of in about 15 minutes. what is this six to eight week bull crap?

J.Greene
02-27-2007, 11:20 AM
If GH wasn't American, he wouldn't be seen as such a great hope.
It's the lack of classics riders from the USA that makes GH the 'star' of the classsics.

There are 50 European pros with better Palmares than GH, and the average
North American cycling fan can't even name them.

Just sayin'....

g

G,

I'm no GH fan, but you'd be hard pressed to name 5 riders that have seen the lead group in PR or Flanders more than GH has the last 7 or 8 years. If he'd have raced for a foreign team he would not have been the star though.

JG

Grant McLean
02-27-2007, 11:26 AM
G,

I'm no GH fan, but you'd be hard pressed to name 5 riders that have seen the lead group in PR or Flanders more than GH has the last 7 or 8 years. If he'd have raced for a foreign team he would not have been the star though.

JG

Do you know the F1 driver David Coulthard?
Always a bridesmaid. Same jaw as GH, maybe they
were twins, seperated at birth.


g

J.Greene
02-27-2007, 12:52 PM
Do you know the F1 driver David Coulthard?
Always a bridesmaid. Same jaw as GH, maybe they
were twins, seperated at birth.


g

I can see that....

JG