Good 700x30c or 700x32c tires - Looking for recommendations

[dalava]

I am building up an light weight OPEN MIN.D road bike that accommodates up to 32c (maybe even bigger) tires. I want to make this bike a all purpose road bike that could handle all kind of paved surfaces, and maybe even occasional detour through some packed gravel roads. I bought a pair of Conti GP5000TL 32c version, and then realized my ENVE Foundation 45 wheels aren't compatible with them because the rims are hookless. So back to square one, looking for recommendations for tires that are at least 30-32mm wide, relatively light weight (<350g), have good puncture protection, low rolling resistance, and can be used with hookless tubeless rims. So far, I have these on my list (all tubeless):

- Schwalbe Pro One TLE 30c
- Vittoria Corse Control G2 30c
- Panaracer GravelKing SS 32c
- Schwalbe G One Speed 30c
- ENVE Road 29 or 31c

Anyone has suggestions for others, or have experience with the tires listed above?

[XXtwindad]

I am building up an light weight OPEN MIN.D road bike that accommodates up to 32c (maybe even bigger) tires. I want to make this bike a all purpose road bike that could handle all kind of paved surfaces, and maybe even occasional detour through some packed gravel roads. I bought a pair of Conti GP5000TL 32c version, and then realized my ENVE Foundation 45 wheels aren't compatible with them because the rims are hookless. So back to square one, looking for recommendations for tires that are at least 30-32mm wide, relatively light weight (<350g), have good puncture protection, low rolling resistance, and can be used with hookless tubeless rims. So far, I have these on my list (all tubeless):

- Schwalbe Pro One TLE 30c. No.
- Vittoria Corse Control G2 30c. Yes.
- Panaracer GravelKing SS 32c Yes.
- Schwalbe G One Speed 30c No.
- ENVE Road 29 or 31c

Anyone has suggestions for others, or have experience with the tires listed above?

If you want volume, go with Panaracer. The “Plus” is a great tire.

[jonbek]

I have run the gravel king ss and sk, and wasn't super impressed with them, they felt wooden and not very lively.

It's not on your list but I am over the moon with the 700x32 rene herse stampede pass extralight. it's lively, grippy, corners well, and handles fine hardpack gravel/dirt competently.

[bfd]

I am building up an light weight OPEN MIN.D road bike that accommodates up to 32c (maybe even bigger) tires. I want to make this bike a all purpose road bike that could handle all kind of paved surfaces, and maybe even occasional detour through some packed gravel roads. I bought a pair of Conti GP5000TL 32c version, and then realized my ENVE Foundation 45 wheels aren't compatible with them because the rims are hookless. So back to square one, looking for recommendations for tires that are at least 30-32mm wide, relatively light weight (<350g), have good puncture protection, low rolling resistance, and can be used with hookless tubeless rims. So far, I have these on my list (all tubeless):

- Schwalbe Pro One TLE 30c
- Vittoria Corse Control G2 30c
- Panaracer GravelKing SS 32c
- Schwalbe G One Speed 30c
- ENVE Road 29 or 31c

Anyone has suggestions for others, or have experience with the tires listed above?

I recently picked up some 700x30 Schwalbe One tires for my Trek Madone and so far I like them. I have older narrow rims (Campy Protons) on my wheels, but the tires still seem to work well!! For about $26, they’re a good deal too:

https://www.backcountry.com/schwalbe-one-tire-clincher?skid=SCHG009-BLABLA-S70X30VG&ti=U2VhcmNoIFJlc3VsdHM6U2Nod2FsYmUgb25lOjE6MjpTY2h 3YWxiZSBvbmU=

Good Luck!

[gomango]

I have run the gravel king ss and sk, and wasn't super impressed with them, they felt wooden and not very lively.


What pressure are you running them at?

Makes a difference, at least for me.

[dalava]

I have run the gravel king ss and sk, and wasn't super impressed with them, they felt wooden and not very lively.

It's not on your list but I am over the moon with the 700x32 rene herse stampede pass extralight. it's lively, grippy, corners well, and handles fine hardpack gravel/dirt competently.

I bought those, then realized they are NOT tubeless, so they are not compatible with the hookless ENVE I have. I ran Rene Herse Barlow Pass on my gravel bike and love them!

[fignon's barber]

OP, I think of those choices, the best for the road would be the Vittoria Controls. They might not be great for gravel though, as the deep grooves of the tread could get little sharp gravel bits lodged in them and work into flats. I tried those Gravel Kings in 32mm, and found them sluggish, and actually slower than Schwalbe One 40mm. If it were me, I'd give the Pirelli 4S in 30mm a go.

[mudhead]

I've had a good experience with Schwalbe G One Speeds. I run them tubeless and find them very smooth rolling with great cornering grip.

[dbnm]

I am running Gravel King SS+ on my Enve 3.4AR wheels.

For pavement, I run 28 psi and for gravel I run 25 psi or less.

Very comfortable.

Not light but great puncture resistance.

(this review just came out https://theradavist.com/2020/09/a-review-of-the-panaracer-gravelking-tire/ )

[FlashUNC]

Corsa Controls. Got me through chunks of Roubaix with no issues. Great tires.

[Kirk007]

If you can live with tubes, then any of the Rene Herse tires, particularly in extralight casing. Haven't found an equal (although I haven't ridden all of those).

[robt57]

Are these also on ENVE's list??

So far, I have these on my list (all tubeless):

- Schwalbe Pro One TLE 30c
- Vittoria Corse Control G2 30c
- Panaracer GravelKing SS 32c
- Schwalbe G One Speed 30c
- ENVE Road 29 or 31c

Anyone has suggestions for others, or have experience with the tires listed above?

[yinzerniner]

I am building up an light weight OPEN MIN.D road bike that accommodates up to 32c (maybe even bigger) tires. I want to make this bike a all purpose road bike that could handle all kind of paved surfaces, and maybe even occasional detour through some packed gravel roads. I bought a pair of Conti GP5000TL 32c version, and then realized my ENVE Foundation 45 wheels aren't compatible with them because the rims are hookless. So back to square one, looking for recommendations for tires that are at least 30-32mm wide, relatively light weight (<350g), have good puncture protection, low rolling resistance, and can be used with hookless tubeless rims. So far, I have these on my list (all tubeless):

- Schwalbe Pro One TLE 30c
- Vittoria Corse Control G2 30c
- Panaracer GravelKing SS 32c
- Schwalbe G One Speed 30c
- ENVE Road 29 or 31c

Anyone has suggestions for others, or have experience with the tires listed above?

The best riding of those listed will probably be the TLEs but they are not very puncture-resistant.

Same experiences as others with the GK's, they just felt sluggish on multiple setups.

No real reviews yet of the Enve tires, although they're made Tufo which does not have the best reputation. Maybe they've gotten their act together to partner with Enve, but only time and experience will tell.

So that leaves either the G-One Speeds or possibly something like the Pirelli Cinturato Velo?
https://www.cyclingnews.com/reviews/pirelli-cinturato-velo-road-tyre-review/
https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/road-bike-reviews/pirelli-cinturato-velo-2018

[John H.]

Schwable Pro One 700x30 are my favorite of that group.
I also like the GP5000 but you said that you can't use them. GP5000 is kind of heavy (If you are going for lightweight).

Vittoria rides nice- But much harder to mount and seat.

[dalava]

The best riding of those listed will probably be the TLEs but they are not very puncture-resistant.

Same experiences as others with the GK's, they just felt sluggish on multiple setups.

No real reviews yet of the Enve tires, although they're made Tufo which does not have the best reputation. Maybe they've gotten their act together to partner with Enve, but only time and experience will tell.

So that leaves either the G-One Speeds or possibly something like the Pirelli Cinturato Velo?
https://www.cyclingnews.com/reviews/pirelli-cinturato-velo-road-tyre-review/
https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/road-bike-reviews/pirelli-cinturato-velo-2018

Alas... the Pirellis are NOT compatible according to ENVE for their hookless rims

[R3awak3n]

I got the controls in 30 and just like the 28s they are fantastic.

Wish vittoria made the controls in 32 and 35, they are excellent.

[Bob Ross]

I am running Gravel King SS+ on my Enve 3.4AR wheels.

For pavement, I run 28 psi and for gravel I run 25 psi or less.


Am I reading ^^^that correctly, not a typo?!?! What do you weigh?

[robt57]

What do you weigh?


Careful, I remember some butcher jokes that fit...


But my first thought as well, rider weight. This should be included in ever PSI comment IMO.

[yinzerniner]

Careful, I remember some butcher jokes that fit...


But my first thought as well, rider weight. This should be included in ever PSI comment IMO.

Also, tire size. Big pressure differences between 28/32/35

[dbnm]

160 on a fat day. :)


Am I reading ^^^that correctly, not a typo?!?! What do you weigh?

[adrien]

OP, I think of those choices, the best for the road would be the Vittoria Controls. They might not be great for gravel though, as the deep grooves of the tread could get little sharp gravel bits lodged in them and work into flats. I tried those Gravel Kings in 32mm, and found them sluggish, and actually slower than Schwalbe One 40mm. If it were me, I'd give the Pirelli 4S in 30mm a go.

Not much to add, other than to say Pirellis run big. I'm using "25" on 19mm internal rims, and they measure 28.2...

[Tim Porter]

Vittoria Controls in 30mm are stellar on my Firefly. Not tubeless, btw, but they ride great.

[grnrcr]

WTB Exposure 30mm on my road bike. Tubeless set up at 50 PSI. 165 lb rider. Great on and off road.

[weisan]

Specialized Roubaix Pro 2Bliss Ready
$40

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/roubaix-pro-2bliss-ready/p/155483?color=229786-155483&searchText=00016-2162

[kiwisimon]

Running tubeless Vittorias and they roll very well, seem to stick well on the corners. Schwalbe Pro Ones were very similar but I prefer the little more tread on the Vs. I have taken so many shortcuts on gravel recently but am yet to have any trouble, (touch wood). They are not the most durable but durability comes at the cost of performance.

GKs I tried and they were not very supple or inspiring in fast corners.I am heavy (190) so maybe the pressures I was running didn't help but the transition from flat to cornering felt tippy.

I wish IRC made their road tires in 30 and 32 as they are my all time favorite road tubeless tires.

[Kyle h]

I’ve got the 29c Enves on my 4.5AR and they come out just under 32mm width. So far initial rides have been really good but I’m still pretty fresh on them.

[Bob Ross]

160 on a fat day. :)


Wow. I'm 175 on my fattest days, and if I let the 32mm Gravel Kings get below ~50psi on pavement it feels like I'm pedaling through Jello, and cornering gets sketchy. I usually run the 32mm GKs at 70psi for pavement.

28psi would be a flat tire in my book! :::dancing banana:::

[Stonzie]

I had 28mm schwalbe pro ones tubeless as a road option for my gravel bike. They roll really well but seemed to get a lot of small punctures (which the sealant took care of thankfully but it's always a little stressful at the start of a 5 hour ride).

Honestly don't get the appeal of rene herse tires. They are beautiful and roll super well but seem to be flat magnets after 500 miles or so (and $$$)

I think gravelking + slicks are a good option, affordable, pretty easy to tubeless up, fairly aesthetically pleasing, and good flat protection.

[kurto]

You should consider the Vittoria Terreno Zero, as well. I've been switching between these and some chunky gravelkings depending on what kind of terrain I'll run into, and the Vittorias are awesome for dry hard gravel, and they feel like a road tire on pavement.

I don't know about hookless, but they meet all your other criteria, and ENVE has other Vittoria TLR tires listed as compatible so you should be ok there.

[samkl]

They're outrageously expensive, but the Rene Herse 32mm extralights are the best tires I've ever ridden. They last a while, too - got 2500 or 3000 miles on mine before taking them off, and I could've kept going for a bit.

[floxy1]

I love the Schwalbe G One Speed. Just did the entire Katy trail on 30c and they were 👌

[sblackmacken]

+1 for the Specialized Roubaix Pro 2Bliss Ready. Ride nicely set up tubeless, quite durable, and great value.

[eBAUMANN]

+1 for the Specialized Roubaix Pro 2Bliss Ready. Ride nicely set up tubeless, quite durable, and great value.

these.

or 32c gravelking slicks, also nice.

[mistermo]

This thread has a multitude of interesting responses. I woulda guessed that the Vittoria Corsa Controls would be the hands down winner.

[samkl]

Gravel King slicks are 85% as good as Rene Herse tires for less than half the cost.