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colker
08-06-2020, 04:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKJvbTEnp0I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShmmBWlbbXA&t=59s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vACZA9dGvV4
Fixed
08-06-2020, 05:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKJvbTEnp0I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShmmBWlbbXA&t=59s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vACZA9dGvV4
I agree easy to see the roots of jazz
colker
08-06-2020, 05:08 PM
I agree easy to see the roots of jazz
The spiritual intensity is so powerfull.
colker
08-06-2020, 05:35 PM
Moroccan sefaradi. In hebrew.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeA7fxNROOw
reuben
08-06-2020, 06:01 PM
Sufi, dervish (turn it up loud)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVmCGiNsX00
Innov Gnawa, NYC! But this sort of music is from north Africa, notably Morocco.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08uPmBZlak8
Mdou Moctar, Niger. Saw him last year, two days in a row.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9m6TcSPKH4
The sound of the daf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grbd8EWHaiw
colker
08-06-2020, 06:10 PM
Sufi, dervish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVmCGiNsX00
Innov Gnawa, NYC! But this sort of music is from north Africa, notably Morocco.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08uPmBZlak8
Mdou Moctar, Niger. Saw him last year, two days in a row.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9m6TcSPKH4
Dervish video is amazingly beautifull.
Innov Gnawa rhythm is incredibly similar to brazilian samba.
reuben
08-06-2020, 06:19 PM
Dervish video is amazingly beautifull.
Innov Gnawa rhythm is incredibly similar to brazilian samba.
Festival International, in Lafayette LA. Normally held in the spring, but not this year. Musicians from Somalia, Guatemala, Morocco, Mongolia, Belgium, Canada, Russia, Haiti...
Alsarah and the Nubatones were there as well. Sudan. The vocal track clears up at about 1:30 or so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSVXzudGec4
Moonlight Benjamin burned the house down. A voodoo priestess from Haiti.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbeuUKruLXQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEA_t1WM_dc
reuben
08-06-2020, 06:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKJvbTEnp0I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShmmBWlbbXA&t=59s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vACZA9dGvV4
I'm gonna have to go with door number one as my favorite, greatly influenced by the simplicity.
jtakeda
08-06-2020, 06:46 PM
I love music threads.
Mdou Moctar is incredible live (when that’s going to allowed who knows)
I think it’s safe to say anything on Chris Editions label is going to be fantastic.
Chrissy Zebby Tembo
Ngozi Family
Sweet Breeze
Blackfoot
K Frimpong
This band Fulu Miziki from DRC makes all their instruments and clothing from recycled material.
https://youtu.be/g7hm3Z57M6k
If you like this kind of music Strawberry Rain is a great reissue label.
I’m most fluent in psychedelic, Zambian rock and west African funk but always love learning about more
mastaliu
08-06-2020, 07:02 PM
https://youtu.be/DiTngHgbDos
XXtwindad
08-06-2020, 07:05 PM
The late, great Rachid Taha. Inspired the Clash.
Repeat. See below.
DHallerman
08-06-2020, 07:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKJvbTEnp0I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShmmBWlbbXA&t=59s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vACZA9dGvV4
Amazing and lovely. I have time now only to watch the first one, the musicians in Istanbul, and the intensity grabs you and doesn’t let go.
Thanks for posting!
DHallerman
08-06-2020, 07:24 PM
Or like Rokia Traoré, who plays a mean blues guitar and sings with both softness and power - say in this video of hers: https://youtu.be/3DydY8bHTyg
voir dire
08-06-2020, 08:26 PM
I think the first I heard was the Pipes of Pan, recorded Brian Jones ages ago, and then quite young saw live the dervishes at Konya.
Tinariwen are great, all their albums, and are really great live.
Among European/American "discoverer ambassadors", Ry Cooder (both 'Buena Vista Social Club' and this Ali Farka Toure collaboration below, is so much more interesting than people like Paul Simon, etc.
Ali Farka Toure & Ry Cooder - Talking Timbuktu (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=1XUloEaR1RM&feature=emb_logo)
But, there are many and it is no surprise.
It does seems pretty unfair though to compare all of "middle east and west africa music" to "euro/us pop". What does "pop" mean even? Euro/US pop, at least in my own definition of "pop" music, is insipid and terrible compared to almost any music at all.
XXtwindad
08-06-2020, 09:15 PM
[QUOTE=XXtwindad;2771754]
The late, great Rachid Taha. Inspired the Clash.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DuPhCmmfKiE
Anyone think there’s any instrument sexier than the oud? Don’t think so.
54ny77
08-06-2020, 11:28 PM
Dhafer Youssef plays a mean oud. You should hear his prayer calls too...:cool:
Probably my favorite concert of his on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN0IlHz6aIU
And others....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Elh8WytKfA
Tigran Hamasyan on piano here is incredible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBGYSBR0_FA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO_-CeF_fl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJwSZIajEvI
[QUOTE=XXtwindad;2771754]
The late, great Rachid Taha. Inspired the Clash.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DuPhCmmfKiE
Anyone think there’s any instrument sexier than the oud? Don’t think so.
54ny77
08-06-2020, 11:36 PM
Some other fun stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFMPcVNMYaE
And a personal favorite: Nicki Wells. Stunning British woman with a voice that is just...just...amazing. Did/does a lot of collaboration with Nitin Sawhney.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv-GdegzdDk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqhTSifU5HA
And this....wowwwwwww..... Niki Wells soaring vocals and Mohini Day on bass. This deserves to be cranked LOUD. Dummer just might take inspiration from JoJo Mayer 20, is almost electronic in his beat/timing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jJJHfL1yQA
54ny77
08-06-2020, 11:45 PM
This is a great video in its own right with Nitin Sawhney talkin' shop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa7_kR2fz3M
54ny77
08-06-2020, 11:51 PM
And if you wanna really stretch for 16 minutes...
Featuring Fareed Ayaz and Abu Muhammad. The "Coke Studio" Pakistan series is incredible. I've listened to hours upon hours of amazing music from around the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYFwzGZcidk
barnabyjones
08-07-2020, 12:11 AM
African music in Mexico filtered through Colombia and the Caribbean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcTxrnkyhK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSEeH_TAoJ4
Fascinating immigrant story set in the cultural milieu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieeZ0mviFKc
dgauthier
08-07-2020, 02:30 AM
This thread is pure, unadulterated gold.
Peter B
08-07-2020, 02:58 AM
Great stuff!
Listened to a few, more as I have time. I'll add A Meeting By The River between Vishwa Mohan Bhatt and Ry Cooder, recorded in situ in 1992.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKE3gDpgd2c
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Meeting_by_the_River
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeN-qpDrSUo
daker13
08-07-2020, 01:36 PM
Good time to shout out the great label Sahel Sounds.
https://sahelsounds.bandcamp.com
And today is a Bandcamp Friday, meaning that Bandcamp is waiving their fees so for any music bought today, all of the money goes to the artists/label. To make it even crazier, Sahel sounds made all their downloads 'Name your own' price till midnight! Nuts.
There's tons of great West African music from Sahel Sounds, but here's two recommendations:
Les Filles de Illighadad--so good, saw them in Providence last November... One of very few female groups playing Tuareg-style music.
https://lesfillesdeillighadad.bandcamp.com/album/eghass-malan
Etran de L'Air--The energy and spirit is so strong with this one. Great lp.
https://etrandelair.bandcamp.com/album/no-1
reuben
08-07-2020, 01:44 PM
https://youtu.be/lg1NUiNt-UY
reuben
08-07-2020, 03:53 PM
Sheila Chandra, who can no longer sing due to a rare condition.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hh15m063gio
Peter B
08-07-2020, 09:28 PM
Sheila Chandra, who can no longer sing due tk a rare condition.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hh15m063gio
Thanks for the link--wasn't aware of her ailment. I was mesmerized by Moonstruck when I first heard it. Still am.
maunahaole
08-07-2020, 09:37 PM
Echoing a post above. Love this album. If you don’t know Strut Records, take a taste, they put some great sounds out. Some new stuff, some well done reissues.
https://strut.bandcamp.com/album/fangnawa-experience
54ny77
08-07-2020, 10:08 PM
That is seriously good. Thx. for the link!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeN-qpDrSUo
XXtwindad
08-07-2020, 10:19 PM
Dhafer Youssef plays a mean oud. You should hear his prayer calls too...:cool:
Probably my favorite concert of his on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN0IlHz6aIU
And others....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Elh8WytKfA
Tigran Hamasyan on piano here is incredible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBGYSBR0_FA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO_-CeF_fl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJwSZIajEvI
[QUOTE=XXtwindad;2771842]
Really cool response. Threads like these show how multifaceted this community is.
dgauthier
08-08-2020, 09:28 AM
Not African/Middle Eastern, but since other posts have wandered to India I thought I'd offer these:
John McLaughlin's collaborations with Shakti and Zakir Hussain have flourished for over 40 years. It's been my "desert island" music ever since the first time I heard it as a teenager.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnW2g6qbbrA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyCH70FODJA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQRl6mhpq8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUEa8SugSMA
Thanks for all the fantastic links to great music!
vincenz
08-08-2020, 09:40 AM
Some gold in this thread. Will make for a nice afternoon/evening later. Cheers
54ny77
08-08-2020, 09:47 AM
absolutely. mclaughlin is amazing, the mahavishnu orchestra works he did were great!
interesting related note: derek trucks has a unique indian music influence, which he attributes to his friendship and classes with ali akbar khan. i think trucks is the most exciting american guitarist in a long time, def. at the top for the memory books. he cites so many musical influences across so many genres. he's an off-the-charts blues player, and so much more. i've got a video on youtube where he was playing in a blues collaboration with b.b. king, who literally, and with genuine sincerity, says he never heard anything better. man, that's a better prize than any music industry award right there.
as an example: listen to the intro of this for the first 2.5 minutes or so. just amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDK9YCplcCY
Not African/Middle Eastern, but since other posts have wandered to India I thought I'd offer these:
John McLaughlin's collaborations with Shakti and Zakir Hussain have flourished for over 40 years. It's been my "desert island" music ever since the first time I heard it as a teenager.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnW2g6qbbrA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyCH70FODJA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQRl6mhpq8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUEa8SugSMA
Thanks for all the fantastic links to great music!
54ny77
08-08-2020, 10:09 AM
speaking of ali akbar khan, here's a fantastic piece from his son, alam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crl92u0O_9M
dgauthier
08-08-2020, 10:41 AM
Some gold in this thread. Will make for a nice afternoon/evening later. Cheers
I have a long shopping list for sure!
colker
08-08-2020, 04:46 PM
Brazilian music: Caetano Veloso w/ his sons on his birthday. yesterday.
https://globoplay.globo.com/v/8761335/
If the link does not work search Caetano live globoplay.
Most revered brazilian poet singer.
reuben
08-08-2020, 05:47 PM
Warning - thread drift.
Moving away from the Middle East and West Africa, I'll toss out throat singing, which I'm sure others have heard of as well. Throat singers can make two sounds simultaneously - a lower droning note and a higher whistling note (see 5:50-9:00 in the video). From the Mongolia/Tuva region.
I've seen some live. Huun Huur Tu is the best known example in the U.S.
Fast forward to about 5:50 for the throat singing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0djHJBAP3U
voir dire
08-08-2020, 07:40 PM
Youssou N'Dour is also great.
I had no idea he had also been the Minister of Tourism of Senegal, what a great idea to have great artists filling posts like that.
reuben
08-08-2020, 07:50 PM
Youssou N'Dour is also great.
I had no idea he had also been the Minister of Tourism of Senegal, what a great idea to have great artists filling posts like that.
Yup. Also Papa Wemba.
54ny77
08-09-2020, 12:36 AM
Abida Parveen, more Coke Studio Pakistan.
Just phenomenal long grooves, her voice soars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl5eZb4eudc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOgZJJmLfhA
54ny77
08-09-2020, 12:37 AM
It'll take a long time to go thru all these videos. And if you're a fan of this style of music, esp. qawwali and sufi music, it'll be worth it to find your favorites.
https://www.youtube.com/c/cokestudio/videos
Rohail Hyatt's page.
https://www.youtube.com/c/RohailHyattMusic/videos
and a great dialogue with him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKfy01zedX4
colker
08-09-2020, 07:53 AM
what a great idea to have great artists filling posts like that.
It signs a sophisticated society.
colker
08-09-2020, 08:14 AM
speaking of ali akbar khan, here's a fantastic piece from his son, alam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crl92u0O_9M
Beautifull.
Bob Ross
08-09-2020, 11:03 AM
OP could have been written 25-30 years ago. Probably even longer.
Back in the early 1990s my bandmates and I got on an Egyptian pop music kick, and man, talk about a quick way to disabuse one's self of the notion that Western pop music is at all interesting...
54ny77
08-09-2020, 11:09 AM
This thread's been a great musical journey.
Here's another bookmark I have, Boubacar Traore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIGU11nopN0
The impact of youtube has been immeasurable in exposing me to different music over the past several years.
colker
08-09-2020, 11:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usf0qtrBVW8
Blues, music which better evokes what it is to be human, found it´s way home; Africa.
reuben
09-12-2020, 06:25 PM
Innov Gnawa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08uPmBZlak8
https://innovgnawa.com/
Toeclips
09-12-2020, 06:37 PM
Very cool Reuben
I'm glad you included their bio
I like the contrast of the old world music with modern recording equipment surrounding them
reuben
06-09-2023, 02:40 PM
I'm not ashamed to revive one of the better non-cycling threads.
Tinariwen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoPPMktXCEI
lorenbike
06-09-2023, 02:49 PM
Taqbir!
https://youtu.be/5BGJNLGVsos
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