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Scott5182
07-29-2020, 07:33 AM
Anyone out there still riding a steel Hollands from Baltimore frame?
dan_hudson
07-29-2020, 07:41 AM
Spouse still rides hers, mainly in Watopia these days though! (aka on the trainer)
gomango
07-29-2020, 08:39 AM
Yes.
Just rode mine yesterday.
Super versatile frameset with three bottle cages and eyelets for racks.
Made from ELOS and it's such a nice road bike.
Wish I could fit 32's on it, but other than that it's spot on for me.
Old pics:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50167808386_2490edb6a7_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jra8By)DSCN1366 (https://flic.kr/p/2jra8By) by Grady Linehan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/105313959@N03/), on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50167792601_2f6a9f50f5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jra3Vp)DSCN1425 (https://flic.kr/p/2jra3Vp) by Grady Linehan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/105313959@N03/), on Flickr
Brings back some memories.
Many years ago I spoke to John at length before my crit race. I knew a few people who purchased frames from John and all had nothing but good things to say. Wonderful looking frames too. Several years later I met a framebuilder who was under contract to build al frames for John.
OtayBW
07-29-2020, 11:15 AM
Made from ELOS and it's such a nice road bike.
Ooh! :D
dookie
07-29-2020, 02:40 PM
The wife rides her 650c Hollands regularly. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200729/f5a8f7db39cdff6f80b2d5c7497033e3.jpg
spank
07-30-2020, 12:40 AM
I don't have a Hollands, but I did have him (his son?) fix my Marinoni that appeared to be pulling out of the bottom bracket at the downtube. Paint was cracked around the circumference of the joint and bike had started to tick. They said it appeared to be a "cold braze". This was like 89-90.
Spaghetti Legs
07-30-2020, 05:15 AM
Friend of mine has one, his main road rider, and it is a gorgeous, go fast bike.
Scott5182
07-30-2020, 07:26 AM
Yes.
Just rode mine yesterday.
Super versatile frameset with three bottle cages and eyelets for racks.
Made from ELOS and it's such a nice road bike.
Wish I could fit 32's on it, but other than that it's spot on for me.
Old pics:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50167808386_2490edb6a7_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jra8By)DSCN1366 (https://flic.kr/p/2jra8By) by Grady Linehan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/105313959@N03/), on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50167792601_2f6a9f50f5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jra3Vp)DSCN1425 (https://flic.kr/p/2jra3Vp) by Grady Linehan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/105313959@N03/), on Flickr
Looks great! I will post a pic of mine this weekend.Still riding it too.
thwart
07-30-2020, 07:32 AM
One of the nicest frames I've ever owned.
Too short at the headtube and too much drop for my right rotator cuff when it went nuts several yrs ago, so I very reluctantly let it go.
Good memories...
makoti
07-30-2020, 07:49 AM
Anyone out there still riding a steel Hollands from Baltimore frame?
Two. One is 19 years old, now. The is an SS, S&S coupled version, only about 7 years old. It was the last road bike he built, as far as I know.
https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=215621&page=4
(I can't upload a picture to more than one thread?)
makoti
07-30-2020, 07:54 AM
The wife rides her 650c Hollands regularly. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200729/f5a8f7db39cdff6f80b2d5c7497033e3.jpg
Black head badge. Built after his wife died.
gomango
07-30-2020, 08:00 AM
Too short at the headtube and too much drop for my right rotator cuff when it went nuts several yrs ago, so I very reluctantly let it go.
Good memories...
Such an attractive bike.
FWIW I really lucked out when I found my Hollands frameset many years ago.
As I age, I really appreciate the headtube extension on my Hollands.
Let's me sit a bit more upright and I find that much more comfortable nowadays.
thwart
07-30-2020, 11:19 AM
Such an attractive bike.
FWIW I really lucked out when I found my Hollands frameset many years ago.
As I age, I really appreciate the headtube extension on my Hollands.
Let's me sit a bit more upright and I find that much more comfortable nowadays.
I would've given my right arm (after all, it felt like it was on fire for a few months there anyway...) for a head tube 3 cm or so longer. As it was, with a carbon 1" steerer it was probably at the ragged edge of the Reynolds design envelope.
That blue Hollands is lovely.
rccardr
07-30-2020, 12:07 PM
Two. One is 19 years old, now. The is an SS, S&S coupled version, only about 7 years old. It was the last road bike he built, as far as I know.
https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=215621&page=4
(I can't upload a picture to more than one thread?)
Ha!
Pretty sure I've crossed paths with you down on Rt 123 towards Occoquan...
dookie
07-30-2020, 01:30 PM
Black head badge. Built after his wife died.#1) transparent. You're seeing the BRG paint.
#2) my wife.
makoti
07-30-2020, 10:34 PM
#1) transparent. You're seeing the BRG paint.
#2) my wife.
John told me he switched to a black background from white on his head badges after his wife died. Never saw any clear head badges in his shop, but that would have been cool.
makoti
07-30-2020, 10:36 PM
Ha!
Pretty sure I've crossed paths with you down on Rt 123 towards Occoquan...
That stretch between the FCPW & the quarry, I'm there all the time, so likely. What are you riding. I'll keep an eye open.
rccardr
07-31-2020, 12:53 PM
We chatted one time on the Old Ox Road section- I was on a Merckx Faema, you commented on the red ano wheelset.
Have a number of bikes in rotation, but am pretty much the only guy on that route who rides with downtube shifters. I’m a waver, too.
makoti
07-31-2020, 10:05 PM
We chatted one time on the Old Ox Road section- I was on a Merckx Faema, you commented on the red ano wheelset.
Have a number of bikes in rotation, but am pretty much the only guy on that route who rides with downtube shifters. I’m a waver, too.
Yes! I remember this. On your way to a rally in Ohio, maybe?
Scott5182
08-01-2020, 05:37 PM
Finally got a pic of mine. Rode it today.
Trying to post pics but challenged....
rccardr
08-01-2020, 08:21 PM
Yes! I remember this. On your way to a rally in Ohio, maybe?
Wisconsin. For the Coppi Centenario Festival.
makoti
08-02-2020, 07:07 PM
Wisconsin. For the Coppi Centenario Festival.
I knew it was Midwest, someplace.
And to add to the thread, my OTHER Hollands. This is the last road frame he built (unless someone else talked him out of retirement). Stainless, coupled. About to put 12speed on her.
Dromen
08-03-2020, 09:36 AM
Own green. Moved red on to friend(1st right of refusal to buy if he's selling) https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200803/542845c5435debae8842439ed55e4e91.jpg
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Dromen
08-03-2020, 09:37 AM
Red one
rccardr
08-03-2020, 01:03 PM
Own green. Moved red on to friend(1st right of refusal to buy if he's selling) https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200803/542845c5435debae8842439ed55e4e91.jpg
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That's gorgeous.
Own green. Moved red on to friend(1st right of refusal to buy if he's selling) https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200803/542845c5435debae8842439ed55e4e91.jpg
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I believe you bought the red one from me. It's my biggest bike sale regret of all time. I hope you get it back, I'd hate to see it leave both of us longing!
Big Dan
08-03-2020, 02:40 PM
Those are some elegant bikes.
I remember a light blue on the cover of some magazine back in the day.
Dromen
08-03-2020, 05:36 PM
I did. Dont worry its close and like i said i have rights. Wouldn't have sold if didn't have another. We have plans for a Hollands ride later this summer.
Thanks for givin me the Hollands Virus.
I believe you bought the red one from me. It's my biggest bike sale regret of all time. I hope you get it back, I'd hate to see it leave both of us longing!
Own green. Moved red on to friend(1st right of refusal to buy if he's selling) https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200803/542845c5435debae8842439ed55e4e91.jpg
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Lovely. Way up firm and high backwards QR and all.
thwart
08-04-2020, 04:20 PM
Way up firm and high...
Haven't heard that lyric used to describe a bike.
But it gets the point across.
That is a gorgeous Holland, Steve.
gomango
08-04-2020, 05:40 PM
That is a gorgeous Holland, Steve.
Yes, gorgeous.
Love the color scheme.
ShockTreatment
08-06-2020, 06:59 PM
I recently converted this old 650c wheel Hollands to a fixed gear bike.
longdaysd
09-06-2020, 06:41 PM
i bought mine in 1997. 853 steel. rode it today for 25 miles in the finger lakes region - Canandaigua.
makoti
09-06-2020, 08:24 PM
i bought mine in 1997. 853 steel. rode it today for 25 miles in the finger lakes region - Canandaigua.
Nice first post. Welcome.
I just put 12sp & 32mm tires on mine. Last week, it served as a decent gravel bike, and today on the C&O towpath outside Harpers Ferry. So versatile.
longdaysd
09-07-2020, 09:54 AM
1997 Hollands
laupsi
09-07-2020, 03:23 PM
I know where you can get another... ;)
https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=257873
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