cold comfort

[Fat Robert]

since its winter and its slow...

what do you wear for a ride in the 40s? I've always been a "wear as little as possible" guy. show up today -- 44 degrees -- in shorts, knee warmers, some ancient descente cotton socks over my shoes, and a long sleeve jersey. my pals are in tights, jackets, booties, gloves... ***?

so what would you wear, as long as it was over 40, and dry?

[obtuse]

since its winter and its slow...

what do you wear for a ride in the 40s? I've always been a "wear as little as possible" guy. show up today -- 44 degrees -- in shorts, knee warmers, some ancient descente cotton socks over my shoes, and a long sleeve jersey. my pals are in tights, jackets, booties, gloves... ***?

so what would you wear, as long as it was over 40, and dry?


knickers, shoe covers, longsleeve jersey and wind vest, hat, prada sunglasses.

obtuse

[atmo]

today = 30 degrees atmo:

base t shirt.
longsleeve skinsuit.
longsleeve winter material jersey.
thermal jacket.
thermal material bibtights.

all black atmo.
very jil sander atmo.

[manet]

robert, you would hear bells, gongs, and siren alarms if A.L.Breguet and manet witnessed you attired as such, in those temps.

on rides, we keep running tallies of shorts and what the numbers adds up to at the end, is what we inhale in chocolate truffles. we've never gone without.

here on NY's rte 9w it is mind blowing just how many uber-dudes, tri-geeks, and snow-tan wannabees are out and about showing skin.

[AgilisMerlin]

today = 30 degrees atmo:

base t shirt.
longsleeve skinsuit.
longsleeve winter material jersey.
thermal jacket.
thermal material bibtights.

all black atmo.
very jil sander atmo.



Black too. ?



:D



amerliN

[azrider]

While on the topic of winter comfort; Does anyone reading this have an opinion of Boure? It was recommended by a buddy and after visiting Boure's website I was pleased to see how reasonable their prices were.

But there are some good deals on Castelli right now through biketiresdirect and have heard goog things about Castelli's bibs/knickers as well.

Put it this way: If you wanted to spend $130-$150 on some knickers what are the best that kind of money can get you?

Thanks.

[fierte_poser]

Gore w/ Windstopper? I put the question mark because I haven't used them yet. Too much snow in Northern Colorado. :(

Much more comfortable than the $200 Pearl Izumi AmFibs I tried on.

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=23117&subcategory_ID=1121

[pdxmech13]

base layer
heavy longsleeve jersey
shorts w/legwarmers
lite cotton gloves
neoprene booties
rapha epic cap
vest for descending

[catulle]

Always fashionable, dear...

[11.4]

knickers, shoe covers, longsleeve jersey and wind vest, hat, prada sunglasses.

obtuse

Something windproof on the chest (newspaper works well if nothing else), breathable windproof shoe covers, either tights or shorts with leg warmers, hat, yes.

But Pradas? Cipo wouldn't wear Pradas. Persols.

[avalonracing]

since its winter and its slow...

what do you wear for a ride in the 40s? I've always been a "wear as little as possible" guy. show up today -- 44 degrees -- in shorts, knee warmers, some ancient descente cotton socks over my shoes, and a long sleeve jersey. my pals are in tights, jackets, booties, gloves... ***?

so what would you wear, as long as it was over 40, and dry?

FR, is your screen name accurate? That might explain your cool weather comfort. Seriously, when I'm racing fit 59ºF warrants a long sleeve jersey and a wind vest. Although right now I feel like I could ride in the snow in a singlet.

[Ginger]

How long of a ride? what time of day?

40 to 60 degrees
Sports bra (not saying you need one, but it *does* give another layer on the chest...)
sleeveless wool undershirt
long sleeved jersey or short sleeved with arm warmers
vest or long sleeved windbreaker tucked in the back pocket
knickers or shorts with knee warmers
wool socks,
toe booties
ear muffs (no, really...I'm not fond of the whole hat thing...) maybe a beanie under the helmet...
Long fingered gloves or winter gloves.

and I can tell you now that I'd probably shed something rather quickly...that's why the vest is in the back pocket. I tend to warm up quickly on the bike and I'd rather not sweat too much, but conditions change.

As long as I keep my feet, hands, and ears warm, I'm good.

[merckx]

Assos Power Static base layer
Red Assos Intermediate ls Jersey
Red Assos 851 Airblock tights
Red Assos 851 Airblock Jacket
White Assos Airblock gloves
Assos Thermo booties
Red Assos Stinger cap
Nasty Oakley shades
5 kilo Storck machine

.............oh wait, wrong fourm

[Lost Weekend]

Jeez Merckx, your outfit is worth more then my beater car :)

[Ginger]

Assos Power Static base layer
Red Assos Intermediate ls Jersey
Red Assos 851 Airblock tights
Red Assos 851 Airblock Jacket
White Assos Airblock gloves
Assos Thermo booties
Red Assos Stinger cap
Nasty Oakley shades
5 kilo Storck machine

.............oh wait, wrong fourm


Oh hey, we found the matchy matchy guy from the Assos photo!

[stevep]

FR, is your screen name accurate? That might explain your cool weather comfort. Seriously, when I'm racing fit 59ºF warrants a long sleeve jersey and a wind vest. Although right now I feel like I could ride in the snow in a singlet.

fat robert is 5'8" 266 pounds.
can ride naked at the south pole.
hes not a great climber but he descends like heellll.

[chuckroast]

If it's sunny:

turtle neck undershirt
long sleeve jersey
tights
wool socks
full finger gloves
and...balaclava (I'm a wimp, my ears get cold)

If it's grey out:

add a jacket

[Ginger]

If it's sunny:

turtle neck undershirt
long sleeve jersey
tights
wool socks
full finger gloves
and...balaclava (I'm a wimp, my ears get cold)

If it's grey out:

add a jacket

Wow...that's what I wear if it's actually cold out...(25-40 range...add heat packs)

[obtuse]

Cipo wouldn't wear Pradas.


and i wouldn't wear pink coulottes....but we're both handsome men anyway.

obtuse

[chuckroast]

Ginger:

I'm a cold weather wimp....besides sweating under all those clothes is good!

[Ginger]

Ah, see, there's the rub. If you wind up sweating a lot, and your stuff doesn't wick really well, then you're gonna get all cold and damp. I'm not a fan of hypothermia.

[catulle]

Black too. ?
:D amerliN


Gold is the new black. Saw it on E.

[72gmc]

I am also a warm-blooded minimalist.

Shorts, knee warmers, wool socks, base layer tee, arm warmers, long or short sleeve jersey, full finger gloves and cap under the helmet. Jacket stays in the back pocket unless it's below 40.

Below or near freezing and precip, I'll put on full pants, but I really prefer knee warmers to pants.

[A.L.Breguet]

Booties below 60'
knee warmers/knickers below 70'
Long sleeves below 70'
legwarmers below 60'
skull cap under helmet below 65'

It's crazy the amount of bare legs we see below 60'. Hell, even below 50'. I just don't get it. :no:
It's always better to be a little over dressed than under dressed.

By the way, I happily ride well below freezing, if properly dressed.

[catulle]

Pronóstico para los 5 días siguientes for Tocumen
Domingo Lunes Martes Miércoles Jueves

87° F | 75° F
31° C | 24° C
87° F | 75° F
31° C | 24° C
87° F | 75° F
31° C | 24° C
87° F | 75° F
31° C | 24° C
86° F | 73° F
30° C | 23° C
Nubes dispersas Nubes dispersas Nubes dispersas Nubes dispersas Nubes dispersas
Just come on over Dr. Robert. The rum is also pretty decent.

[Fat Robert]

Booties below 60'
knee warmers/knickers below 70'
Long sleeves below 70'
legwarmers below 60'
skull cap under helmet below 65'

It's crazy the amount of bare legs we see below 60'. Hell, even below 50'. I just don't get it. :no:
It's always better to be a little over dressed than under dressed.

By the way, I happily ride well below freezing, if properly dressed.


why I could never be Euro (and wear tights when its 70):

60 or better: shorts and short sleeves
50-60: knee warmers, arm warmers optional. long sleeves get rolled up to my elbows when I get too hot
40-50: knee warmers, long sleeves, extra base layer. booties if wet. socks over shoes if it isn't. those may get removed.
under 40: tights, jacket, shoe covers. I'll probably wimp out and just ride the trainer.

I've got a bunch of winter clothing...I just don't like all the layers, and if you get too hot you don't have anywhere to put the stuff if you have to take it off...

[Tom]

Lotta variables there...

But assuming no wind and dry, light polypro shirt, jersey, arm warmers, maybe tights or maybe not. Depends how hung over I am.

Speaking of that, I'm done working. Time to go get drunk.

[Bud]

In the 40's is cold??? ;)

[bironi]

I wear more now than when I was younger (55). Today with sun, but high humidity and temp about 40 (Pacific NW) I wore:

wool turtle neck base
bibs
knee warmers
leg warmers
long sleeve wool jersey
wind vest
wool cap
wool socks
booties
spring gloves

I was comfy. I find that adjusting the zippers at the neck is great temperature control.

[vaxn8r]

since its winter and its slow...

what do you wear for a ride in the 40s? I've always been a "wear as little as possible" guy. show up today -- 44 degrees -- in shorts, knee warmers, some ancient descente cotton socks over my shoes, and a long sleeve jersey. my pals are in tights, jackets, booties, gloves... ***?

so what would you wear, as long as it was over 40, and dry?
28-35 deg:Craft LS base layer. bibs, bib tights, jacket or LS jersey with light jacket. 2 sets booties, glove liners+ windstopper gloves, skull cap or headband.

35-40 deg: LS base layer, LS jersey, vest, bibs, legwarmers, booties, windstopper gloves, headband probably comes off.

40-45 deg: Booties, bibs, base layer and long sleeve jersey, vest to come off after warm up. Leg warmers, Windstopper gloves or mittens. No headgear.

45-50 deg: SS base layer, LS jersey or SS jersey with arm warmers, bibs, legwarmers, mittens or cycling gloves. No booties or headgear.

50-60 deg: SS base layer, lightweight SS jersey arm warmers. cycling gloves, bibs.

[Lincoln]

45:
Leg warmers (if it might be getting colder, then light-weight tights)
2x LS jerseys
Thermal vest
Light weight long-finger gloves
skull cap under helmet
toe-covers on shoes

[shinomaster]

Try wearing a wool sock over your johnson.

[A.L.Breguet]

...and if you get too hot you don't have anywhere to put the stuff if you have to take it off...

Team car? ;)

[Fat Robert]

Team car? ;)

or your trusty sherpa, manet

[A.L.Breguet]

or your trusty sherpa, manet

Yeah, but I always carry the donuts. :D

[Fat Robert]

Yeah, but I always carry the donuts. :D

which is why his watt/kg is impriving?

[saab2000]

why I could never be Euro (and wear tights when its 70):

60 or better: shorts and short sleeves
50-60: knee warmers, arm warmers optional. long sleeves get rolled up to my elbows when I get too hot
40-50: knee warmers, long sleeves, extra base layer. booties if wet. socks over shoes if it isn't. those may get removed.
under 40: tights, jacket, shoe covers. I'll probably wimp out and just ride the trainer.


You would learn. For me at 44 degrees it is thermal tights unless I know the temp will be rising fairly significantly during a ride. I would probably wear my little skull cap at this temp. Thick gloves.

I never understand people who ride with so little that they are shivering and feel cold because you expend so much energy just trying to keep warm. This energy is unavailable for cycling.

The only reason for starting out underdressed is if I know I will be warming up soon.

I am always the most overdressed person on the morning rides in VA Beach except for the ultra hot cyclingmom who shows up on the rides. She is hot, fast, good rider!!! And unavailable.... :crap:

[manet]

... sorry, i had to blow the powdered sugar off the keyboard.

you know jelly donuts are a better deal than GU cause you
get cake with the donut, which makes a handy edible container.
no more of tossing the GU wrappers in someone else's frontyard.

what's up with that anyway?

[manet]

... sorry, i had to blow the powdered sugar off the keyboard.



i used to lick the keyboard, but ever since david sedaris' story i've become way self-conscience.

[Fat Robert]

You would learn. For me at 44 degrees it is thermal tights unless I know the temp will be rising fairly significantly during a ride. I would probably wear my little skull cap at this temp. Thick gloves.

I never understand people who ride with so little that they are shivering and feel cold because you expend so much energy just trying to keep warm. This energy is unavailable for cycling.

The only reason for starting out underdressed is if I know I will be warming up soon.

I am always the most overdressed person on the morning rides in VA Beach except for the ultra hot cyclingmom who shows up on the rides. She is hot, fast, good rider!!! And unavailable.... :crap:


is there any individual variation -- different metabolisms? I ask this to the forum peanut gallery....

I'm not shivering in the 40s with minimal clothing...and I don't wear gloves...I race better in the spring when its cool than I do in the summer...heat, for me, is like kryptonite. I eat more when its cold because yeah, you're expending energy just to keep warm, but when I wear more I feel overheated...


saab, you needed the transfer to charlotte...you could be dating an attractive bank exec who buys you that pacenti, that 595, that sachs....

[Too Tall]

60 +: shorts, light knee warmers, short sleeve, light weight wifebeater, no gloves.
50 +: shorts or knicks, long knee warmers, arm warmers or my fav is a ligh long sl. Assos + wifebeater, light neck warmer. capilene gloves or none.
40 +-: See above + wind shoe covers.
30+: shorts or knicks + light weight tights (w/stirrups) suspenders, heavy baselayer top, Assos windblock top no jersey OR Ancient Descent really tight pullover top + windjacket so I can make flapping sounds, heavy shoe covers + heat pack, Lobster mitts, neck gator, Vanilla Cap turned forward and bill down so I can look properly mean.
20+ : see above sub. heavy ancient bellweather windfront tights + ls jersey under the assos or bellweather top + sub heavy homemade neck gator and sub really stupid heavy lobster mitts.
15 or less: mtn bike so that I slow the heck down or it's murder by numbers 123.

I'm with FatBob, 40+ wear as little as you can...cover your knees and ride hard.

[saab2000]

saab, you needed the transfer to charlotte...you could be dating an attractive bank exec who buys you that pacenti, that 595, that sachs....

I would transfer to Charlotte immediately if we had a base there. Unfortunately, we don't. I fly through there all the time though, including today later this afternoon. They have a big map of the area on a wall inside and it shows Rock Hill, SC. I would love to live in the area and we could ride. Seems like the weather is nice most of the year and as you have described, it is pretty nice riding.

Actually, I have something in the works which would have me flying out of Minneapolis (my preferred US home) and would have me home almost every night and not living in hotels dreaming of riding.

If this job comes to pass I would fly nicer equipment, be home much more, be able to ride more and live in a place I want to live!!! Yay!! :banana:

But speaking of being cold, my dad and I are similar. I get cold easily. I also prefer warmer weather, but also think ideal riding is in the low 70s, so I am not in need of the hellahot weather which is coming our way. I don't like being overdressed for riding, but it is how I stay warm enough to have a productive ride. Once I get going I am sure I would be fine with a bit less, but the first 10 miles are a struggle.

[manet]

is there any individual variation -- different metabolisms? I ask this to the forum peanut gallery....

....

aye.

A.L. will be wearing a greek dessert over his head, and i will have a headband on, or maybe just my usual cycling cap.


... and differences in specific areas of the body. i wish what ever wiring my ears have my toes could get some of.

i do apply skin lotion to my face, ears, and neck before heading out.
even covered skin that has a tendency to get dry gets a lube job.

[azrider]

60 +: shorts, light knee warmers, short sleeve, light weight wifebeater, no gloves.
50 +: shorts or knicks, long knee warmers, arm warmers or my fav is a ligh long sl. Assos + wifebeater, light neck warmer. capilene gloves or none.
40 +-: See above + wind shoe covers.
30+: shorts or knicks + light weight tights (w/stirrups) suspenders, heavy baselayer top, Assos windblock top no jersey OR Ancient Descent really tight pullover top + windjacket so I can make flapping sounds, heavy shoe covers + heat pack, Lobster mitts, neck gator, Vanilla Cap turned forward and bill down so I can look properly mean.
20+ : see above sub. heavy ancient bellweather windfront tights + ls jersey under the assos or bellweather top + sub heavy homemade neck gator and sub really stupid heavy lobster mitts.
15 or less: mtn bike so that I slow the heck down or it's murder by numbers 123.

I'm with FatBob, 40+ wear as little as you can...cover your knees and ride hard.

Do your light weight tights (w/stirrups) have a chamois? Is it commonplace to wear tights (w/out chamois) over a regular pair of bibs?

Do YOU have an opinion of Boure?

I've been a lurker on the site till now and just need some good advice on cold weather clothing. Thanks in advance.

[saab2000]

Do your light weight tights (w/stirrups) have a chamois? Is it commonplace to wear tights (w/out chamois) over a regular pair of bibs?

Do YOU have an opinion of Boure?

I've been a lurker on the site till now and just need some good advice on cold weather clothing. Thanks in advance.

I always wear normal shorts under my tights. I have never bought a set of tights which already had the pad built in.

Doing it this way also allows you to wear shorts which are no longer appropriate for riding without a second layer. You know, the transparent kind. The pad might still be OK, but they are as thin as tissue paper, but nobody knows that if you have a pair of tights over them.

[manet]

Do your light weight tights (w/stirrups) have a chamois? Is it commonplace to wear tights (w/out chamois) over a regular pair of bibs?

Do YOU have an opinion of Boure?

I've been a lurker on the site till now and just need some good advice on cold weather clothing. Thanks in advance.

my lighter tights are adidas'. none of my tights have stirrups. well actually that ain't true. i have an old pair of bellweather wind fronts that have stirrups, and i do not use the stirrups. i just push them behind my achilles, and the booties cover up the whole mess just fine. none of them have chamois.

i always wear chamois'd shorts of some sort under my tights, usually old thread worn shorts that are not for public viewing anymore.

boure makes good stuff _ do a search on this forum, as they (boure) have received keyboard time.

[azrider]

my lighter tights are adidas'. none of my tights have stirrups. well actually that ain't true. i have an old pair of bellweather wind fronts that have stirrups, and i do not use the stirrups. i just push them behind my achilles, and the booties cover up the whole mess just fine. none of them have chamois.

i always wear chamois'd shorts of some sort under my tights, usually old thread worn shorts that are not for public viewing anymore.

boure makes good stuff _ do a search on this forum, as they (boure) have received keyboard time.

Thanks for info! I am tired of my leg warmers creeping up at the ankles so tights with stirrups is what i'm looking for to advoid this annoyance. Plus, my reasoning behind buying tights without a chamois is one of utility. I can wear bib's underneath them while riding, but can still use the tights underneath my skiing gear or cold weather hiking gear without having to be annoyed by the diaper effect.

Running search on Boure NOW...

[zap]

so what would you wear, as long as it was over 40, and dry?

Bibs with knee warmers, 2 layers with long sleeve jersey and maybe a vest.

If the high is going to be in the low 20's to upper 30's, warm knickers with knee warmer, gloves, skull cap and booties.

Below 20 F, I'm on the mtb bouncing around in the forest down the street.

ZAP does not nor ever will own tights.

Rest stops suck.

[Too Tall]

Zap, so I'll see you can CampyChiks house at 10:30 for a snowride?

[zap]

Sure, we seem to have fun when we get this sort of stuff.

Two wheel drifting :D

[manet]

az,

calf muscles keep the creep in check...

as for skiing with the same sexy second skin _ yes.
i skate ski, but do some classic, in the same bib tights.
works great _ less filling.

[CNY rider]

Thanks for info! I am tired of my leg warmers creeping up at the ankles so tights with stirrups is what i'm looking for to advoid this annoyance. Plus, my reasoning behind buying tights without a chamois is one of utility. I can wear bib's underneath them while riding, but can still use the tights underneath my skiing gear or cold weather hiking gear without having to be annoyed by the diaper effect.

Running search on Boure NOW...

Maybe this is specific to me.......and maybe not.

I have pretty tough hide, it seems, and no real propensity to get saddle sores. The only time I have gotten them, and it was a couple of real beauties, was when wearing seperate tights over shorts with a chamois. I think there's rubbing and friction between the two layers that can do something wicked to your delicates.
I prefer winter tights with a chamois, and the Boures are a very good model to get.

[alancw3]

on the rare winter morning that it is like 42 degrees i wear a base layer, i.e. long underwear, long tights, full length socks, long sleeve jersey,a nylon shell and full finger gloves. when i first start out on a ride i am "cold" but warm up quickly (like 10 minutes) and then i am comfortable throughout the rest of my ride. i find this combination to work well at the stated temperature.

[catulle]

Zap, so I'll see you can CampyChiks house at 10:30 for a snowride?

CampyChiks...??????? Errr, may I be invited...? Is that my favorite rock group...?! Scarlett must play there. She could play the harp, atmo...

[Erik.Lazdins]

If it's 40 benign conditions and daylight...
1. Marmot thermal underlayer with Assos windblock jersey over it
2. bib bike shorts with non-chamois bib tights over it
3. Booties go on 40 and dark or below.


If this stuff is dirty I'll scrounge an underlayer then layer a brown paperbag on my chest to block the wind under a long sleeve jersey.

[catulle]

Whatever you do, don't forget...

[Ginger]

Maybe this is specific to me.......and maybe not.

was when wearing seperate tights over shorts with a chamois. I think there's rubbing and friction between the two layers that can do something wicked to your delicates.

Nope, you're not alone. That setup pretty much ruined the last half of the first day of TOSRV for me because, you know...you can't really do much about it in the middle of a ride. Too cold to switch to just shorts...boy that sucked.

[A.L.Breguet]

It was 20'f when I went out this a.m., and 25'f when I got home 2 hours later.
I wore the following, and was warm enough, 'cept my tootsies:
thin balaclava
thin skull cap
Bell Swoop crash hat
Craft undee shirt
ancient Protogs wool jersey(red)
Santini long sleeve jersey
ancient Cortina TI Raleigh wool jersey
Cannondale Carbon long tights w/pad
Woolie Boolie Sockies
Pearl Izumi Neoprene booties
Sidi shoes
Pearl Izumi Lobster gloves
Defeet lighweight gloves

BTW, didn't see anyone in just shorts, but there weren't too many folks out yet. :banana:

[Ginger]

See now...20 degrees is a different story.

Sports bra or tank
Filament silk turtleneck,
sleeveless wool undershirt
long sleeved fleece jersey
road camel back with warm water between jersey and jacket, foam insulation on tube
wind front cycling jacket
knickers
amfib tights
thin liner socks
wool hunting socks
chemical warmers above and below toes
winter riding boots
neoprene booties
liner gloves and lobster gloves or ski gloves chemical warmer on back of hands between liners and outer gloves If I'm on my mtb, I take long finger summer gloves and Moose Mitts with chemical warmers tucked in the pockets...mmmm
balaclava or neck warmer and fleece beanie
Oakleys...nothing worse than having frozen eyeballs.

Although I have to say that I avoid going out on the bike when it's so cold I have to put vasaline or some such on my face to keep the exposed parts from freezing. That's why I have an indoor trainer.

[manet]

...well it was 15' up here @ 11 am. sunny, light breeze:

giro helmet _ new mow
greek dessert
glasses (geek briko... ala chiapucci whatshisface)
sleeveless poly under shirt _ no name
hind drylete long sleeve necked shirt
verge winter jacket
pearl izumi wind vest (old fugly mustard yellow, totally not proh)
bellweather windfront tights
verge bib shorts
wigwam poly liner socks
sidis _ non carbon
neoprene booties _ spokes brand
lobster mitts

just the three of us, no other cyclists sighted.
i got the worst ice-cream headache going down a 1 1/2 mile hill.
got home and ate tuna-melts. no donuts..

[pdbrye]

While on the topic of winter comfort; Does anyone reading this have an opinion of Boure? It was recommended by a buddy and after visiting Boure's website I was pleased to see how reasonable their prices were.

But there are some good deals on Castelli right now through biketiresdirect and have heard goog things about Castelli's bibs/knickers as well.

Put it this way: If you wanted to spend $130-$150 on some knickers what are the best that kind of money can get you?

Thanks.

I've been using the Boure Thermo Elite Cycling Bib Tights this season. I love them, warm, super comfortable and I really like their Elite chamois. Plus they are great to deal with. Buy em, try em and if you don't like them send em back.

[manet]

sadly, there wasn't any ice-cream involved with my ice-cream headache

[Too Tall]

Manet and A.L. - No truffles than, bummer. Does it count if you lurk outside the frosted windows of an authentic JonnyG spin class?? You be able to bag many many truffles of every kind. Smart huh?

Mr Natchurl and ZappO - D@@@m you missed it. What a ride. Snow, frozen bits and some lunk head in Potomac hit my front wheel at a stop sign. Yeah he did it on purpose and yeah I kept a hunk of his nice Mercedes paint as a "trophy" heheheheheheh. Time to throw another log on the fire.

[catulle]

Snow...? Frozen bits...? Er, this is what I use when the mercury reaches 65F...

[zap]

Manet and A.L. - No truffles than, bummer. Does it count if you lurk outside the frosted windows of an authentic JonnyG spin class?? You be able to bag many many truffles of every kind. Smart huh?

Mr Natchurl and ZappO - D@@@m you missed it. What a ride. Snow, frozen bits and some lunk head in Potomac hit my front wheel at a stop sign. Yeah he did it on purpose and yeah I kept a hunk of his nice Mercedes paint as a "trophy" heheheheheheh. Time to throw another log on the fire.

I went in hoping to see the campy chick group come out but no. Maybe lingering in the hen house too long sipping coffee?

Went to dc and back to potomac. No snow no ice no riders off rock creek.

[Kevan]

in the teens, there were 6 of us out there doing 30 miles with a 16 avg. I broke out all the armor and but for some coldness in the feet for the last few miles, I was toasty. I will say the first few miles were particularly difficult on the face and nose.

[J.Greene]

I'm not sure if I have it well or not. In Central Florida if it's not in the 50's or 60's at ride time we can postpone the ride an hour or so. I suffer in July, Aug, Sept though. The roads never cool down eventhough morning temps might be in the high 70's.

JG

[Karin Kirk]

I agree with Ginger and others that tights with chamois are much more comfortable that shorts w/chamois plus tights. I don't want any extra fabric or seams than necessary between me and the saddle. I found some lovely Castelli tights from biketiresdirect and they had amazing customer service (there was a price discrepancy and they totally honored the lower price - very cool!).

I don't ride in winter temps too often (ya know, there are other sports that are meant for cold weather!) but I tend to wear Patagona capilene base layers instead of cycling-specific tops. Then I throw a jacket w/ pockets over how ever many layers are necessary.

Dave and I are great examples of different metabolisms and/or preferences for optimal operating temperature. He likes to be sweating underneath. I like to be chilly. Same applies while skiing. I feel all sluggish when I'm too warm. Being a little chilly keeps me perkier.

Oh, and after a winter ride? Doughnuts, nachos, pizza or any kind of greasy food hits the spot! :)

[Ozz]

I wear:

Leg warmers between 50 and 70 (Sugoi)
Arm warmers between 60 and 70 (Pearl Izumi)
Long sleeve winter jersey below 55 (Castelli or Etxe Ondo)
Light fleece tights (no chamois) over shorts below 50 (Castelli)
Booties below 50 (Etxe Ondo)
Full finger Windstopper gloves below 50 (Gore)
Windstopper Jacket below 45. (Assos or Etxe Ondo)
Under helmet skull cap below 45 (Pearl Izumi)

I always wear an under shirt (Craft) sleeveless, short sleeve, and long sleeve depending on jersey and temp.

I also just picked up a pair of smartwool socks this winter....I really like....very cozy.

I'd rather be too warm in winter, than chilled. Your experience may vary.