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Pegoready
04-04-2020, 12:45 PM
Hey folks, for all my years nerding out on bikes I just don't understand rear derailleur pulleys.

Here's my dilemma-- I'm trying to update some SRAM Force and Rival 10 speed RD's with new pulleys. These are for budget builds so I'm OK going with off brand pulleys as long as they are OK. This era derailleur:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61xjlr6cx5L._AC_SX425_.jpg

Naturally, these would work and be the safest choice: https://www.performancebike.com/sram-force-rival-apex-10-speed-rear-derailleur-pulley-set-11.7515.060.000/p309136

https://i.imgur.com/KAcSe4sl.jpg

Alternatively, these, being labeled 11 speed, wouldn't work right? Because why would SRAM make an 11 speed and 10 speed pulley if they are cross compatible?

https://www.performancebike.com/sram-11-speed-rear-derailleur-pulley-kit-fits-force-22-rival-22-11.7518.026.000/p309139

https://i.imgur.com/ePb6lEUl.jpg

Further confusing things, KCNC, Tacx, BBB, and other companies make a pulley that they claim are compatible across manufacturers.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/KCNC-Jockey-Wheel-Pulley-Ultra-Light-10T-Shimano-Campagnolo-SRAM-BIKE-BLUE-/331815038914?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10

https://www.cambriabike.com/products/tacx-jockey-wheels-s-steel-bearings?variant=13176664359024&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cse&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=&scid=scplp21873&sc_intid=21873&gclid=CjwKCAjw4KD0BRBUEiwA7MFNTQzzAoDRQpSPZCaK3CvV MBa6CL_f34i1vt2Af071COFEixc_lD9jlRoCG2IQAvD_BwE

https://i.imgur.com/ogS9ry2l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/f3fWgzjl.jpg

So, at the end of the day my questions are:

1. Can I use SRAM 11 speed pulleys with 10 speed?
2. If aftermarket makers are saying a single pulley is cross compatible to Shimano, Campy, and SRAM can I assume I can use Campy and Shimano pulleys in a SRAM derailleur?
3. Does tooth count matter? The SRAM pulleys are 11T whereas the aftermarket pulleys are 10T.
4. Any strong recommendations for cheap aftermarket eBay pulleys? I'm looking to update several RD's so the savings add up over SRAM OE pulleys, assuming the quality is equal or better.

charliedid
04-04-2020, 02:22 PM
If I am remembering correctly SRAM 8-9-10 are the same and 11 is different.

*not 100% sure

dookie
04-05-2020, 05:55 PM
FWIW... I used Tacx ceramic on a Red 10s RD and they worked perfectly. Bike is gone, but they were whatever the Tacx web store recommended for 10s SRAM.

proxient
04-05-2020, 11:55 PM
I just ripped my force 10 speed rear in half yesterday, would gladly send you my jockey wheels for the cost of shipping.

If you're interested.

dave thompson
04-06-2020, 10:18 AM
Tacx pulleys come with a variety of bushings that allow them to be used on SRAM, Shimano and Campagnolo.

BertoBerg
04-06-2020, 12:54 PM
To the people who did upgrade to ceramic did you notice any difference?