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colker
04-01-2020, 07:10 PM
I want to rebuild this wheelset using the same pattern. I measured spoke length from campagnolo hubs to open pro rims and got 295mm.

Louis
04-01-2020, 07:16 PM
https://www.bikeradar.com/features/a-quick-guide-to-spoke-lacing/

3-cross

https://images.immediate.co.uk/production/volatile/sites/21/2019/03/guide-spoke-lacing-01-1492068429652-19vkkbf5hab13-b5b5478.jpg?quality=90&resize=620%2C349

robt57
04-01-2020, 07:17 PM
3x looks like

Just count how many times a spoke crosses another from the j-bend out.

AngryScientist
04-01-2020, 07:19 PM
lol, from this distance it's an eye test, but it's almost certainly 3x.

beautiful bike by the way!

colker
04-01-2020, 07:22 PM
lol, from this distance it's an eye test, but it's almost certainly 3x.

beautiful bike by the way!

Thanks! I know.... i should take a pic of the wheel only; i will go w/ 3x and calculate spoke length according to new rim height.

wallymann
04-01-2020, 07:25 PM
Thanks! I know.... i should take a pic of the wheel only; i will go w/ 3x and calculate spoke length according to new rim height.

rim height...what's that? do you mean effective rim diameter?

consider using a proper spoke length calculator instead of trying to measure spoke lengths of a still-assembled wheel like this. or de-tension/disassemble so you can measure spokes accurately.

btw...in many/most cases lengths will vary between drive and non-drive sides.

HTupolev
04-01-2020, 07:31 PM
I want to rebuild this wheelset using the same pattern. I measured spoke length from campagnolo hubs to open pro rims and got 295mm.
Hard to tell from the photo, but it looks like 3x.

...If you're buying new spokes by measuring the old ones, it's not 100% critical to figure out whether it's 2-, 3-, or 4- cross before starting the lacing. You'll find out halfway through the lacing process either way. And this discovery won't force you to re-lace the first half of the wheel's spokes, unless you decide that you want to change how the hub label is aligned with the rim.
(I wouldn't measure the old spokes while they're still built into a wheel, though. Disassemble the wheel, then measure.)

gbcoupe
04-01-2020, 07:32 PM
My ears suck, but my eyes are still good. 3x, as others have said.

Nice looking bike!

colker
04-01-2020, 07:57 PM
I plan to throw old hub and new rim on a spoke calculator along w/ the old pattern and then order spokes but I have not decided on the rims yet. I will wait till things calm down and shipping/ customs time line go back to a semblance of normality.

Blown Reek
04-01-2020, 08:40 PM
rim height...what's that? do you mean effective rim diameter?

consider using a proper spoke length calculator instead of trying to measure spoke lengths of a still-assembled wheel like this. or de-tension/disassemble so you can measure spokes accurately.

btw...in many/most cases lengths will vary between drive and non-drive sides.

Heh.

oldpotatoe
04-02-2020, 06:36 AM
Using this

https://leonard.io/edd/

I get 296/294 for the rear and 296 for the front.

I have spokes, BTW, Sapim Race..$1.15 per WITH brass SecureLock nipples..

Also any other Sapim spoke they make.

colker
04-02-2020, 08:30 AM
Using this

https://leonard.io/edd/

I get 296/294 for the rear and 296 for the front.

I have spokes, BTW, Sapim Race..$1.15 per WITH brass SecureLock nipples..

Also any other Sapim spoke they make.

Excellent!