What would a Paul / White Industries whole bike look like?

[tylercheung]

Just as a theoretical exercise - (and tbh I think if I were less lazy I'd just read the company PR)...what would be the ideal bike built up by White/Paul components?

Coming from a road cycling point of view it's all new to me (and also I don't have any experience w/ a proper MTB either, just a Marin commuter hybrid back in the day) but I am curious about whether they've engineered all the components for a cohesive whole.

Thoughts:

-probably an adventure/"gravel"/allroad/mtb type bike?
-frame - probably something not that expensive.
-bars - straight bars
-crank/BB/HS - WI
-RD/cassette - this will still have to be Shimano/SRAM I suppose, I don't see anything made by anyone else
-brakes, seat post, shifters - Paul.
-wheels/rims - WI

It would be a different animal than anything I've ever ridden but there does seem to be a growing (and instagram-active) community of "bike packers" and "adventure bikers" or maybe it's already the majority of cycling for years and I've been blind to it...

[twin]

It seems interesting but it's not high zoot. I have my Phil hubs on a not so expensive bike. I love Phil hubs!

[joosttx]

check it out

https://theradavist.com/2019/03/paul-component-and-sierra-nevada-built-a-sierra-klunker/


Pauls and WI have and CK have collaborated with West Coast builders in the past. You can find press on them if you search the internet.

[Dino Suegiù]

Paul Components, White Industries, Chris King, Velocity, etc collaborate with excellent builders (usually ~12 or so, usually also West Coast) every year for the "Paul Camp". There is usually a theme assigned by Paul. The bicycle types actually vary a pretty fair amount. It is an interesting event.

Here are the examples from the Complete gallery of "The Eleven Bikes of the 2017 Paul Camp Builder Fleet". (https://theradavist.com/2017/05/the-eleven-bikes-of-the-2017-paul-camp-builder-fleet/) In 2017 the theme was "red/white/blue". Google "Paul Camp bicycles", etc., for other years.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48988148702_e79cd93f7a_b.jpg

[bfd]

You must be young if you don't remember Paul derailleurs. If you don't mind 8 up to possibly 10 speed, you can probably find Paul RD and FD for this bike, but be prepared to pay some big bucks!

http://velobase.com/CompImages/RDerailleur/2DDD08A8-B428-43A2-B618-A1475955E57B.jpeg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/H1oAAOSwMmBVvbJx/s-l300.jpg


I think they still require Shimano shifters, but not sure if they'll work with STI.
Good Luck!

[GOTHBROOKS]

those boxcar stems and royal flush cranks are hideous.

[jtbadge]

And the ano seatposts. So much nope.

[tylercheung]

This is really just theoretical for me because I ride dirt so infrequently I'd be better off just renting or borrowing someone else's bike. But just curious as to how all those parts worked together. If i ever find a beater frame to experiment on mechanically, maybe someday.

But it seems like it's "old school California mountain bike" in terms of application, at least the Paul stuff...

[joosttx]

those boxcar stems and royal flush cranks are hideous.

The Boxcar stems are excellent. I could never get my Thomson stem to stay seated. I bought a boxcar and never had a problem.

[PacNW2Ford]

My Igleheart is close:
Paul: brakes, light mount, seat post, quick releases, rack mounts
White Industries hubs
Chris King headset and limited edition CK/Brooks C-15 saddle
Igleheart stem and seat post collar
Drivetrain is a Dura-Ace mix: 7402 levers, 7700 bar-end shifters, 7800 rear derailleur, (CX70 front, 9-speed Ultegra cassette)

I guess I should get a White Industries crankset, has a Sugino now.

[charliedid]

those boxcar stems and royal flush cranks are hideous.

You are of course wrong.

Wrong wrong wrong.