Pantani, a summary youtube in Italian long

[AgilisMerlin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0olkkZjNgUs


Amerlin :D

[AgilisMerlin]

they are all here

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=I+Miti+Del+Ciclismo&search=Search


enjoy


AmerliN

[William]

I always liked watching Pantani dance away from everyone on the climbs. Always makes me smile when I hear Phil laughing increduously as he describes Pantani dusting everyone up Duez.

http://unbreakable.dk/blog/pantani.jpg

http://www.herneweb.com/images/20050518_pantani2.jpg

http://www.rrc1902muenchen.de/images/Pantani.jpg

http://www.dailypeloton.com/article_images/pantani/pantani.jpg

http://www.egratis.org/pantani.bmp


William

[saab2000]

Definitely one of my all-time fave riders.

[TriJim]

Perfect timing as I am currently reading the Pantani biography referenced in this thread. (http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=24085) It is an interesting social study of growing-up in Italy.

I also was surprised to see my friend (from last weekend's 6-day race in Zurich) next to Pantani. Anyone know who this is?

http://www.feviper.com/pictures/6DayZurich34.jpg

[TriJim]

I also was surprised to see my friend (from last weekend's 6-day race in Zurich) next to Pantani. Anyone know who this is?

OK - a little detective work. Man with the hat is Walter Dannecker, a German elevator mechanic. Apparently he is the 'El Diablo' of six-day racing -- having attended races in Munich since 1972.

I'll look for him at the Stuttgart 6-Day in 3 weeks. :beer:

[Steelhead]

I just finished the Pantani biography a couple nights ago. What a sad story - and what a great book. If you want a really fascinating read about the pre-Lance era this is wonderful reading, and so detailed. The research is so thorough it's amazing. Great book -

[AgilisMerlin]

i am almost done with it. The book is quite daunting at times.

It is part of the system i quess. Showing the coke to teamates, at the training camp and the details- threw me for a loop.

got about a third to go.


1990's - the fastest decade in cyclings history............forever


AmerliN


I just finished the Pantani biography a couple nights ago. What a sad story - and what a great book. If you want a really fascinating read about the pre-Lance era this is wonderful reading, and so detailed. The research is so thorough it's amazing. Great book -

[Steelhead]

Showing the coke to teamates, at the training camp and the details- threw me for a loop.

I think that by that time he was already in such a tailspin that it probably didn't surprise too many there that he would show up at a party with a bag of blow. You may not be there in the book yet, but the fact that his longtime manager never thought the situation was dire enough to have his committed against his will to long term treatment is just outrageous.

[AgilisMerlin]

i remember reading about her and her book. She played friend before business, i think. She was trying to manage a train wreck. What keeps hitting me is the fact that he was stinking loaded. He moved at will and quickly.

i like the team doctor. What a class act. Blood values, what are blood values. i was laughing when it explained that 4 riders on the team in 1999 had blood centrifuge (sp) spinners and yet the doctor never questioned them on their numbers. Pantani ofcoarse had one at his disposal the night before he got caught. Totally pro, yo.

And yet no one would except his problem. Strange

http://www.whnet.com/4x4/pix/upe9.jpg

http://www.whnet.com/4x4/pix/upeF.jpg

at high speed going against traffic on a one way. Imagine if he had killed someone ?


AmerliN

[saab2000]

Pantani ofcoarse had one at his disposal the night before he got caught. Totally pro, yo.

And yet no one would except his problem. Strange



That was, unfortunately, the way of the world of cycling at that time. Centrifuges and scouring the world of the printed word online and in libraries for any word on hematocrit, artificial blood, animal blood (not saying it would work, but people talked about anything), etc. Anything was game. Dangerous times with serious consequences. Riders died, but it never made news because they weren't name riders.

Pantani's story is quite tragic. Amazingly, in his final Giro he finished 11th and would have been top 5 had he not had a serious crash near the end which should have taken him out of the race. Within about a year he was dead. Very sad.

[Steelhead]

yes - the fact that riders carrier their own BLOOD CENTRIFUGES along with them just like they were extra gear is amazing. What really got me was the long list of all of the athletes, one as young as 16 that died of "heart failure" and how the riders would have to monitor their heart rates while they slept because if they got too low their heart could not pump the thickened supercharged blood. Imagine trying to sleep after a hard day of stage racing and having to get up in the middle of the night and jump on a trainer to elevate your heart so you don't have a heart attack and die.

All these years I thought EPO was simply a drug that aided recovery, so that you could get up and train again the next day without so much fatigue, therefore become stronger faster. The book describes in great detail how it is not only that but a oxygen supercharger to the doped athlete. Puts a whole new meaning to "doping" for me thats for sure.

I wish Marco could have made it to recovery. I know that for an addict of his type there are only four outcomes: 100% sober, dead, imprisoned, or institutionalized for good.

[AgilisMerlin]

did you remember the percentage increase in oxygen intake off those values when they reached the 50-60% red/white value. upwards of 20 to 30 percent of performance increase. If i read right................

that is insane. your ligament should just pop off the bone with those numbers......................holy crap.


and the bit on the state funded doping center ala bugno sorenson chiapucci bartolami etc........................... That info. was out of hand.


sad

AmerliN

[david]

the marco pantani story...
starring...