View Full Version : Tacx Neo 2T or Wahoo Kickr
oldfatslow
01-01-2020, 09:42 AM
I've ridden rollers for ever but have decided to join the rest of you in 2020 and get a current tech power trainer.
Who prefers which (personal experience preferred)?
cash05458
01-01-2020, 09:49 AM
Kickr has been great...still using the first gen from 2014 or whenever it was ...thing runs perfectly and has taken a lot since then...
gavingould
01-01-2020, 10:29 AM
have no experience with the Tacx, but my first gen Kickr that I picked up used 4 or 5 years ago is still going along fine.
thegunner
01-01-2020, 10:44 AM
tacx, no question. no calibration required, they just work.
wallymann
01-01-2020, 11:33 AM
i just made this decision, went with the 2T. well...actually went with the 2, but was accidentally sent the 2T...huzzah!
why i preferred the 2/2T.
- automatic self calibration.
- built in cadence sensor.
- ability to do detailed L/R pedalstroke analysis.
- super quiet.
- heavier flywheel.
- optionally self powered.
- compact-ish folding design.
downside is that the cassette is not included and you need to buy a separate FH body if you want to run campy. i'm still waiting on my cassette to arrive, so just doing some prelim setup and testing until then using zwift.
i had a proto-smart Tacx T1640 (http://www.timslife.com/brancat/trainer/train3.php#item2) trainer from the early '00s that made that brand familiar to me, as well.
Krenovian
01-01-2020, 12:10 PM
i just made this decision, went with the 2T. well...actually went with the 2, but was accidentally sent the 2T...huzzah!
why i preferred the 2/2T.
- automatic self calibration.
- built in cadence sensor.
- ability to do detailed L/R pedalstroke analysis.
- super quiet.
- heavier flywheel.
- optionally self powered.
- compact-ish folding design.
downside is that the cassette is not included and you need to buy a separate FH body if you want to run campy. i'm still waiting on my cassette to arrive, so just doing some prelim setup and testing until then.
i had a proto-smart Tacx T1640 (http://www.timslife.com/brancat/trainer/train3.php#item2) trainer from the early '00s that made that brand familiar to me, as well.I don't have any experience with the Kickr. I purchased a Tacx Neo 2 and agree with everything wallymann said. The Neo 2T corrects slip issues noted with the Neo and Neo 2 at very high watt output levels. I'm not strong enough to experience the slip issue so went for a new Neo 2 I found for $800.
The only problem I've experienced involves the Tacx software. My computer won't connect to the trainer using their software. It's not really a problem as the Neo 2 works flawlessly with Trainerroad.
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ChainNoise
01-01-2020, 12:32 PM
I've ridden rollers for ever but have decided to join the rest of you in 2020 and get a current tech power trainer.
Who prefers which (personal experience preferred)?
Get smart rollers, problem solved
Tacx software and support in the USA are the main weakness. Anyone who lived through the bushido/genius era will be unlikely to buy a tacx product again.
On the other hand Wahoo is a stand up company, even replacing 2nd hand and out of warranty units for a reasonable charge.
I currently use a KICKR2.
tigoat
01-01-2020, 02:04 PM
I have had a Kickr gen 2, a Hammer gen 1, and a Tacx Neo 2, and I think I like the Neo 2 the best out of the bunch. First I first rode the Kickr I almost throw up, as that high pitch screaming sound in one of my small bedrooms was making me sick. The Hammer sounded more mellow and was bearable. The Neo 2 is quiet but certainly far from silent. The Neo 2 is more advanced with a direct drive system (internals), meaning there is no secondary belt loop like others have, so there is nothing mechanical to degrade and to replace over time. Neo 2 also has a downhill simulation drive, and it also can simulate road roughness with cobblestone, gravel, sand, etc. The Neo 2 does not even need power to ride if you don't need the downhill simulation, as it can supply its own electricity with your power. By design, the Neo 2 has a slight wobble which might be a positive or a negative for some people. I think the only thing I don't about the Neo 2 is that it does not have a "real" through axle, which has been addressed with the Neo 2T. Nonetheless, the Neo series from Tacx is as good as it gets for a smart trainer.
kramnnim
01-02-2020, 02:19 PM
Kickr gen 1 does have a distinctive whine, but later versions are very quiet.
unterhausen
01-02-2020, 02:26 PM
I didn't know about the kickr whine because I always use a low gear on the trainer. Tried using a high gear, and it was really loud. This was an experiment because it's easier to ride a trainer in a high gear. I have gone back to using a low gear most of the time and there is virtually no whine. OTOH, it looks silly that I always ride 9mph.
I did the experiment for the ramp test. Since the intent is to see when you run out of steam, I think doing it in a high gear probably makes sense, and I will continue to do that. And I might gear up for really difficult workouts
yakstone
01-06-2020, 12:08 PM
Has anyone actually tried the Smart Rollers?
I see Tru Trainer as a swap out offering for their Classic Roller that looks interesting. Anybody have feedback?
ChainNoise
01-06-2020, 12:17 PM
Has anyone actually tried the Smart Rollers?
I see Tru Trainer as a swap out offering for their Classic Roller that looks interesting. Anybody have feedback?
I have a pair of Elite Arion Smart B+ rollers I got used on here a few weeks ago. I absolutely love them. Talk about a freaking challenge to stay on and keep up with a specific training exercise. Keep the wheel speed up and the resistance is smooth to come on and smooth to let off. I initially bought them to keep me motivated and concentrated on riding indoors during the winter months. I'd often drift off on a regular smart trainer and would lose interest in a matter of a few minutes. I'd then hate myself for being in the trainer and would only last a half hour at most. I have no problems staying motivated and on the rollers for over an hour at a time. Win for me!
My Tacx Neo is 2 years old with no issues.
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