I think something is wrong.... [Archive]

ultraman6970

12-29-2019, 12:11 PM

So, browsing because have nothing better to do I found this...

I have one of those frames and something is wrong or they found a way to fix it?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-Cannondale-Six13-Carbon-Aluminum-Road-Frame-Fork-Set-56cm-700c/183971276215?hash=item2ad58ae5b7:g:LZoAAOSwh~xdjNG s

Any opinion?

cmbicycles

12-29-2019, 12:35 PM

What do think is wrong with this one?

ultraman6970

12-29-2019, 01:07 PM

Those bikes have an english threaded BB... the frame has bearings installed.

Mike V

12-29-2019, 01:21 PM

Those bikes have an english threaded BB... the frame has bearings installed.

Are you sure?
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170108/db8cf0ca3fbec226442fa0a7ad905341.jpg

ultraman6970

12-29-2019, 01:33 PM

I have one exactly like the one in ebay, team replica... english BB...

What ive noticed is that you have some with 2 carbon tubes and some with 3... the 3 carbon tubes are early editions... wonder when they went to 2 they moved to pressed bearings BBs.

Found this....

https://geometrygeeks.bike/bike/cannondale-six13-2008/

but looks like were pressfit aswell...

oliver1850

12-30-2019, 12:06 AM

Those bikes have an english threaded BB... the frame has bearings installed.

That era Six13 came either way. Some models that came with Shimano cranks were threaded but more probably came with FSA or Cannondale BB30 cranks.

ultraman6970

12-30-2019, 01:02 AM

Always good to know, so much time has passed from the implementation of bb30?

b33

12-30-2019, 10:12 AM

I had one of those back in 2005 maybe 2004 in that fire engine red color. They did in fact come with either all 3 main tubes in carbon or just the top and down tube. They also did have either threaded or BB30 - the BB30 model was only the top end which came with the dale crank. I had a dura ace model and it was threaded.

Other cool thing on that bike - it was one of the first mass produced bikes where the full fork was carbon - the wheel mount was always aluminum prior and then prior to that the steered tube was aluminum.

shoota

12-30-2019, 11:14 AM

Agreed with everything here. The eBay bike has a Hollowgram crank sticker so I'd say BB30 is correct on that frame.

My Six13 was the 3 carbon tube version and had a threaded bb. Man I wish I still had that.

rain dogs

12-30-2019, 12:16 PM

Always good to know, so much time has passed from the implementation of bb30?

Someone can correct me if I'm mistaken but BB30 I think originated in 2002. Gilberto Simoni had a BB30 Hollowgram equiped silver and red Caad7 when he won the giro in 2003

rain dogs

12-30-2019, 12:18 PM

This bike:

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bikesportmichigan.com%2Freview s%2Farione%2Fsimoni2.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

I believe the first year of the Hollowgram crank was the year prior.... along with BB30.

oldpotatoe

12-30-2019, 01:16 PM

oliver1850

12-30-2019, 04:59 PM

I believe the first year of the Hollowgram crank was the year prior.... along with BB30.

First BB30 models were the 2001 R4000 SI and R5000 SI. They were CAAD6 I think, the only difference from CAAD5 being the BB shell.

efixler

12-30-2019, 07:08 PM

efixler

12-30-2019, 07:11 PM

That bike on EBay is definitely bb30.

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efixler

12-30-2019, 07:22 PM

Other cool thing on that bike - it was one of the first mass produced bikes where the full fork was carbon - the wheel mount was always aluminum prior and then prior to that the steered tube was aluminum.

Yeah I wish I had that fork! Unfortunately I have the ‘Ultra’ fork, with the aluminum steerer.

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oliver1850

12-31-2019, 04:51 AM

The 2008 model is the one with the 2 carbon tubes and the threaded bb. I know because I have one, and because I entered the geometry data on GeometryGeeks :banana:

I think that all the older ones are bb30, but I’m not positive.

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2005 Six13 R5000 came with a DuraAce crank, so there were definitely threaded BBs dating from the start of the Six13 frames.

rowebr

12-31-2019, 10:07 AM

Are you sure?
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170108/db8cf0ca3fbec226442fa0a7ad905341.jpg

I think I can see threads in that BB shell...:confused:

ultraman6970

12-31-2019, 12:44 PM

Is always good to have this conversations because you never know when you will be in front of one.

Actually The red I have will be soon a silver one :D

efixler

12-31-2019, 01:05 PM

Actually The red I have will be soon a silver one :D

Well I guess you know this already then, but it’s a sweet ride. I bought mine on a whim last winter and, according to Strava, I’ve put about 4000 miles on it, so I guess I like it.

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shinomaster

12-31-2019, 02:56 PM

The Caad6 had the first OS bb and the $$$ Cannondale cranks. Pretty cutting edge.

https://premium-cycling.com/product/3012/

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Cannondale-CAAD6-R4000-Si-58cm-Sub-18lb-Pro-Level-Aluminum-Crit-Beast-/273785740588

ultraman6970

12-31-2019, 08:32 PM

Actually the one i got is too big for me... got it because of the group :P my kids in a year probably will be tall enough for it.

Will be like a long term project... not in a hurry...

Well I guess you know this already then, but it’s a sweet ride. I bought mine on a whim last winter and, according to Strava, I’ve put about 4000 miles on it, so I guess I like it.

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oliver1850

01-01-2020, 05:59 AM

The Caad6 had the first OS bb and the $$$ Cannondale cranks. Pretty cutting edge.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Cannondale-CAAD6-R4000-Si-58cm-Sub-18lb-Pro-Level-Aluminum-Crit-Beast-/273785740588

That is very tempting, even with the dent. I still need a CAAD2 and a CAAD6 to go with the 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, and Optimo.

shinomaster

01-01-2020, 02:20 PM

That is very tempting, even with the dent. I still need a CAAD2 and a CAAD6 to go with the 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, and Optimo.

I remember seeing that exact model in a shop with the Proton Wheels and the blue fade... I miss my Caad4 and I need a new 1" fork for it. Does anyone have experience with a Columbus Minimal fork on a Cannondale?

ultraman6970

01-01-2020, 03:26 PM

I do not see why it could not work.

oliver1850

01-02-2020, 01:53 AM

I remember seeing that exact model in a shop with the Proton Wheels and the blue fade... I miss my Caad4 and I need a new 1" fork for it. Does anyone have experience with a Columbus Minimal fork on a Cannondale?

It has 2 mm more rake but I doubt that you would notice the difference. The stock forks don't seem to turn up very often.

shinomaster

01-02-2020, 02:00 AM

It has 2 mm more rake but I doubt that you would notice the difference. The stock forks don't seem to turn up very often.

Thanks my frame was missing the fork when I got it so I used a Columbus Muscle which was fantastic imho.. I never see the original forks anywhere.