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AgilisMerlin
12-29-2006, 06:51 PM
my wife has a set of these built up on her 650c bike.

any of you ever used them ?

DEEP V

This rim is the jack of all trades. The deep section creates strength, aerodynamics and durability. Use it for training, racing, commuting, touring, track bikes or anything else you can think of. If you want one rim that can do it all, this is the one.

650c
Colors: Black, Ti Grey
Drillings: 16 18 24 28 32
**Not all colors available in all drillings. Please consult your local Velocity dealer for availability

700c
Colors: Black, Silver, White, E. Red, Yellow, E. Blue, Purple, Gold, Orange, Lime green, Ti Grey, Bright Silver, Pink, Brown, Celeste
*Most colors available in 32 and 36h non-machined

Drillings 700c: 16, 18, 20 24, 28, 32, 36, 40, 48
**Not all colors available in all drillings. Please consult your local Velocity dealer for availability.

650c
Bead seat diameter 571
Weight 500g ERD = 531

700c
Bead seat diameter 622
Weight 520g ERD = 582



http://www.velocityusa.com/img/r_road_deepv_logos.gif


http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/images/products/rims/Velocity-Deep-V-rim-colors.jpg


machined or not

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/images/products/rims/VelocityMSW.jpg


AmerliN

flydhest
12-29-2006, 06:57 PM
Thanks to my wife and TooTall, I am the proud owner of a set of these, but in tubular form. I agree they are very good rims that do a lot of things well. I would question whether or not they have significant aerodynamic benefit, however. Moreover, they are super sturdy, so for a smaller person, I would think they are overkill and you could get all the strength you need, but with less weight.

I put in a fast hard ride (but short) today and each ride confirms that they are seriously good rims that build into strong wheels. I'm thinking about using them when I need to rebuild the wheels on my 'cross/rough-stuff bike. For me, a big part of the virtue is that I'm big (180-200 depending on the time of the season) and so they seem very, very sturdy. Moreover, the DC are roads are crap and I'll likely commute as well as train on them. For a smaller person, say 150 or under, I might think they're overkill.

AgilisMerlin
12-29-2006, 07:23 PM
am hovering around 140 lb. now.

what would be a better alum aero rim, that won't break the bank, but very light?
Carbon is not an Option :no:

but for a lightweight rider, then the wheelset with velocity rims would last a very longtime. right. Even taking into account the noneeded strength factor. what do you think ?


Amerlin

Jeremy
12-29-2006, 07:40 PM
am hovering around 140 lb. now.

what would be a better alum aero rim, that won't break the bank, but very light?
Carbon is not an Option :no:

but for a lightweight rider, then the wheelset with velocity rims would last a very longtime. right. Even taking into account the noneeded strength factor. what do you think ?


Amerlin

The Deep V is a nice rim. Claimed weight of 520g is WAY OFF! 570g-590g for the 700C is more accurate. The Kinlin XR-300 is a very nice rim. It is 30mm deep and weighs 440g-465g (actual, real weights). It is remarkably stiff and strong for its' weight, and the profile/weight is nearly impossible to beat in a clincher.

Jeremy

AgilisMerlin
12-29-2006, 07:47 PM
The Deep V is a nice rim. Claimed weight of 520g is WAY OFF! 570g-590g for the 700C is more accurate. The Kinlin XR-300 is a very nice rim. It is 30mm deep and weighs 440g-465g (actual, real weights). It is remarkably stiff and strong for its' weight, and the profile/weight is nearly impossible to beat in a clincher.

Jeremy

you have a link:

just got some chinese sites off of google.com


AmerliN

Jeremy
12-29-2006, 08:04 PM
Kinlin does not have an English website that I have found. The rim is used by many companies (Reynolds, Williams wheels, etc...) and marketed under different names (IRD Cadence Aero, Nb-r 30, etc...).

Jeremy

11.4
12-29-2006, 08:16 PM
The actual aero qualities aren't significant until the profile is much higher than a Deep V. All the Deep V's do is get batted around a bit in strong sidewinds. They do have the advantage that they will throw off mud or dirt in cross, but that is offset by the fact that they are, yes, close to 600 grams apiece. Since you aren't getting aero qualities for all that weight and you are lugging around a lot of extra weight, you might think about something like the CXP-33, which is bulletproof, sheds mud as well, and is about 125 grams less per rim. The Deep V is incredibly bulletproof, but so is the CXP-33 for anyone short of 300 pounds.

What Deep V's do offer is a wild collection of colors. The tubular version (the Deep V Pro Elite) only comes in a few relatively boring colors (silver, grey, black, gold, brown) because you can't glue tubulars onto powdercoating and you can't effectively mask the bare metal in the tire bed during powdercoating. The really great colors (lime green, white, electric blue, eggplant, etc.) are achieved by powdercoating.

Do note that Deep V's went through a huge fad in the last year or so. They're now rather a passe rim (not a comment one would make often on this forum), and get ragged on in messenger quarters. If that matters to you, of course.

AgilisMerlin
12-29-2006, 08:20 PM
Anything more aero in alumin. would then be extremely heavy it would seem.


thanks all for the info.



AmerliN

mike p
12-29-2006, 08:32 PM
He's my campy shamal. Great bomb proof wheel but yes twas heavy.

Mike

Anything more aero in alumin. would then be extremely heavy it would seem.


thanks all for the info.



AmerliN

Jeremy
12-29-2006, 08:34 PM
you have a link:

just got some chinese sites off of google.com


AmerliN

http://www.reynoldscomposites.com/images/items/solitude%20front-b.jpg

See above link for a picture of the rim. Kinlin is a Taiwanese company. They make rims for Rolf, AmClassic, Reynolds, IRD, etc...

Jeremy

manet
12-29-2006, 08:42 PM
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shinomaster
12-29-2006, 09:17 PM
I have some yellow velocity aeroheads 28 holes, new, if any one in interested.

scottyj
12-30-2006, 02:57 AM
The Deep-V rim is ok but be sure that they are built up by a competent wheel builder as all of the Velocity rims seem to have roundness and flatness issues right out of the box. A poor build will not exacerbate these problems but a good one will make them inconsequential.
I should mention that I have a pair and they work great, in spite of that the major selling point is that they come in pretty colors.

znfdl
12-30-2006, 07:03 AM
I had a set of IRD Cadence Aeros built up for my fixed gear bike. They made an incredibly strong wheel. The rim is about 100 grams lighter than the Deep V. I am so happy with these wheels that I am having set built up for my cross country tide.

Too Tall
12-30-2006, 07:12 AM
Hahah, everyone loves Deep Vees who rides them...hmmmm.
Anywho, they are the right stuff for tandems as well.
You can reduce spoke count on the rims same as the mavic cxp33s because of their fantastic strength for a wheel that weights something that won't offend ;)

I've seen CXP33s used on track tandems...yeah they are strong too :)

scrooge
12-30-2006, 09:37 AM
I had a set built up for my MTB a few years ago because they were said to be bombproof. IMHO, they were (and that made me happy).

djg
12-30-2006, 09:41 AM
What about just a plain old velocity escape? I don't imagine it has any aero advantages over anything else on the market, but it's way lighter than the deep v and seems like a strong rim (I've had one on the rear wheel of my fixed gear bike over the last year--no issues).

AgilisMerlin
12-30-2006, 09:52 AM
ya know i am not giving up the ghost of christmas future on these rims.

i am mostly concerned with overall strength in staying true, and years of service.


AmerliN

zap
12-30-2006, 09:57 AM
If you want aero al, I think the only option are gen. 1 Campy Shamals. If I'm not mistaken, the rim weight is not much more than the Velocity Deep V. Zip has the sl version in 650c and swears they are faster than her CXP 33 wheelset.

The CXP 33 is a strong rim. We also have a set for our tandem and has held up well for 5+ years.

Too Tall
12-30-2006, 04:29 PM
AM - your weight is not a dealio. A pro wheel builder and quality good you B set maaaaan :) Pull the trigger with one of our fav wheelbuilders and it's all over including the shouting! FWIIW Velocity Escape DESPITE what you hear (aheem) are Too Tall proof ;) It is a beast of a rim.

PanTerra
12-30-2006, 07:10 PM
I ride a set of the Velocity Sparticus, a wheelset using the Deep-V rim. I'm 260# and the rims have always stayed true. I did break a flange tab on the hub, but velocity warranteed it with new hub and spokes. Took about a week TAT.

DavidK
12-31-2006, 09:08 AM
I've been riding Deep V's for about six months on a singlespeed/fixed bike.

I've slammed into numerous potholes that have appeared in London when the weather turned, and taken a few shortcuts up kerbs and down stairs when I have needed to.

I treat them like ****. Really I do. In fact I treat the whole bike like hell (an 853 tubed Bob Jackson) as for me this is a real beater, commuter, socialising bike.

Yet no matter how much abuse I put the wheels through, or silly antic I perform on the bike (game of polo anyone?), the rims have stayed perfectly true and the whole bike is still able to sprint and build speed with the best of them.

If I'm racing I'll put my Fulcrum Racing 1's on one of my road bikes, if I'm doing distance I've got a pair of Neutrons that live on my Nove. But for everything else it's a singlespeed bike and the Deep V's.

And come spring I anticipate taking them down to Herne Hill for a few races there to see if track racing is for me.

A rambly post, but I love the rims. Not sure I should've got them in white though.