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joep2517
11-06-2019, 12:58 PM
I'm finally starting to focus on the build process and the first thing I need to do is stretch the rear triangle to fit a 10 speed rear wheel.
Is there anyone in the central Florida area you would trust to do the work?
Joe
Bentley
11-06-2019, 01:40 PM
So there are a number of good bike shops that exist here in CF. That said is finding someone to do the work, which depending on the bike could mean some liability. I think the guy who would agree to do the work is the Frame Doctor, they are located in Tavares. I would think that Winter Park Cycles might do it, but there is also Ace Metric, the guy is a good wrench. I dont think you would get any of David's locations or Orange Cycle to do it. I think you might get Bevin at Bicycle Sport to do the work, but he is in Vero Beach. I know this is not an exhaustive list, but I think that the Frame Doctor would definitely do the work
If you are willing to come to the Coast, I think Pete Jones at Pete's Bicycle Shop would do it...
oldpotatoe
11-06-2019, 04:12 PM
I'm finally starting to focus on the build process and the first thing I need to do is stretch the rear triangle to fit a 10 speed rear wheel.
Is there anyone in the central Florida area you would trust to do the work?
Joe
Some good suggestions...126 to 130mm? Please don't do the "Just shove it in there"....do it right.
andrew+
11-06-2019, 04:29 PM
Kyle's Bike Shop gave me a free bike box recently. It seemed like the kind of shop that knew its way around older steel bikes.
Doug Fattic
11-06-2019, 04:35 PM
Johnathan Greene is a frame builder in central FL somewhere. John Clay is an amateur that has been building for very long time and has all the tools including a surface plate. If that was my frame (and I wasn't already a frame builder) I would want someone that has an established feel for aligning steel frames.
DeBike
11-06-2019, 04:43 PM
It is pretty easy to do it yourself. RJthebikeguy.com does a video in which he shows how to make the tools yourself and do the cold setting. Cost of the tools about $10 and it does not take much time. He also shows how to square up the drop outs with homemade tools. That does not work as well, in my opinion. A bike shop can do that in short time, not a lot of money.
Blue Jays
11-06-2019, 05:15 PM
Have the steel frame adjusted the correct way. Don’t ruin it.
Bentley
11-06-2019, 05:27 PM
Kyle's Bike Shop gave me a free bike box recently. It seemed like the kind of shop that knew its way around older steel bikes.
Kyle’s does not have the right skills to do this job...
joep2517
11-06-2019, 07:26 PM
Some good suggestions...126 to 130mm? Please don't do the "Just shove it in there"....do it right.
Sorry - yes 126 to 130. There is no way in hell. I won't "just shove it in there". This is my grail bike and I want it done right.
Johnathan Greene is a frame builder in central FL somewhere. John Clay is an amateur that has been building for very long time and has all the tools including a surface plate. If that was my frame (and I wasn't already a frame builder) I would want someone that has an established feel for aligning steel frames.
Doug - I haven't heard Johnathan's name in awhile. I didn't think he was still in the central Florida area. I'll look him up. Do you know where John Clay lives? I will reach out to him if I cannot get with Johnathan.
And I agree I want someone who knows what they are doing.
Thanks!
Doug Fattic
11-06-2019, 07:34 PM
Sorry - yes 126 to 130. There is no way in hell. I won't "just shove it in there". This is my grail bike and I want it done right.
Doug - I haven't heard Johnathan's name in awhile. I didn't think he was still in the central Florida area. I'll look him up. Do you know where John Clay lives? I will reach out to him if I cannot get with Johnathan.
And I agree I want someone who knows what they are doing.
Thanks!PM or email me at my name (all one word in lower case) + @qtm.net and I'll send you their contact information.
Ralph
11-06-2019, 08:00 PM
Jonathan Greene is my son. He's not building frames anymore. Sold his equipment. Sorry. Diane Blake in College Park can do it. She builds bicycles...about any kind. Makes every single part on hi wheelers. Frames, wheels, seats, everything. She can do anything. Check this out. http://www.findglocal.com/US/Orlando/1385663218317665/Victory-Bicycles She probably has the tools at her home shop to do the job. She has a complete Campy tool kit for alignment. She has built all my wheels for 40 years. (well...except some Zonda's)
Ronsonic
11-06-2019, 10:25 PM
In Tampa we have Jordan at Vélo Champ Cycle Sport. A bit out from Orlando but maybe worth the trip for you.
He will first tell you if it isn't a good idea ... go from there.
Nomadmax
11-07-2019, 04:26 AM
Alan Wanta
http://www.wantaframes.com/firstpage.html
Depending on your exact location, less than two hours from you.
Jonathan Greene is my son. He's not building frames anymore. Sold his equipment. Sorry. Diane Blake in College Park can do it. She builds bicycles...about any kind. Makes every single part on hi wheelers. Frames, wheels, seats, everything. She can do anything. Check this out. http://www.findglocal.com/US/Orlando/1385663218317665/Victory-Bicycles She probably has the tools at her home shop to do the job. She has a complete Campy tool kit for alignment. She has built all my wheels for 40 years. (well...except some Zonda's)
This. Diane Blake knows her stuff.
Bentley
11-07-2019, 06:30 AM
This. Diane Blake knows her stuff.
From the link it appears she is not doing business...
shoota
11-07-2019, 07:18 AM
Some good suggestions...126 to 130mm? Please don't do the "Just shove it in there"....do it right.
What about 120 to 130mm?
Elefantino
11-07-2019, 07:52 AM
What about 120 to 130mm?
Can also be done (and has been, on steel track bikes). The best is the bolt/nut/washer method and requires patience.
oldpotatoe
11-07-2019, 07:54 AM
What about 120 to 130mm?
2mm per side(126-130) is not a big deal particularly since the steel used in that era is better steel. 120-126 tougher because of frame quality. I would not attemp 120-130... crimped chainstay too big of a possibility.
Ralph
11-07-2019, 12:20 PM
She still has a shop at her home. Check PM's.
shoota
11-07-2019, 12:50 PM
2mm per side(126-130) is not a big deal particularly since the steel used in that era is better steel. 120-126 tougher because of frame quality. I would not attemp 120-130... crimped chainstay too big of a possibility.
Shoved the wheel in there, so far so good.
oldpotatoe
11-07-2019, 05:24 PM
Shoved the wheel in there, so far so good.
When you force the dropouts non parallel by forcing a 130mm wheel into a 126mm frame then force the dropouts parallel with a QR, you ‘may’ break a dropout or where on of the stays attach to the dropout. Uncommon but it happens.
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