Weird question but, what's the most neutral component brand?

[zmalwo]

This sounds kinda weird but, which cockpit component brand do you guys consider to be the most "neutral" brand that can fit in any frame, any components, wheels etc? Deda feels like it only goes with campy stuff, Ritchy only goes with American stuff. Specialized goes with specialized bikes. maybe 3T? what do you guys think

[dbnm]

Enve.

[zmalwo]

Enve.

Enve only goes well with American stuff I feel like.

[GOTHBROOKS]

dimenson and promax finishing kits on all the bikes in 2020.

[bicycletricycle]

This sounds kinda weird but, which cockpit component brand do you guys consider to be the most "neutral" brand that can fit in any frame, any components, wheels etc? Deda feels like it only goes with campy stuff, Ritchy only goes with American stuff. Specialized goes with specialized bikes. maybe 3T? what do you guys think

Nitto

[dookie]

Mavic, duh. The guys with the yellow cars.

[Malinois]

Fizik. Fairly ubiquitous on modern builds.

[rwsaunders]

Mavic, duh. The guys with the yellow cars.

That’s pretty good...your quick wit wasn’t lost in translation.

[sitzmark]

The concept of "neutral" is a fleeting thing. With rapidly evolving aero/tech design, integration, and differentiation the idea of a universal cockpit group is a holdover from tube frame sets.

If talking about what company does the best job of branding and imprinting customer fantasy through marketing .... a different story.

[FlashUNC]

All Simplex, all the time.

[Blue Jays]

King Cage titanium waterbottle cages work nicely across a variety of builds.

[Clean39T]

King Cage titanium waterbottle cages work nicely across a variety of builds.

Yep. Same with gloss black Arundel Mandible cages.

[BdaGhisallo]

How about folks just use whatever components they like on whatever bike they enjoy and stop worrying about what is "correct"?

[merckx]

DT

The Swiss have never stepped into anything.

[Dekonick]

https://www.dtswiss.com/en/

:banana:

[madsciencenow]

I like the DT answer but I'll throw Zipp into the mix.

[paredown]

King headsets?

When I came back to cycling, I thought it was some new cult--that you couldn't build a bike unless you installed a King headset...:banana:

[R3awak3n]

King Cage titanium waterbottle cages work nicely across a variety of builds.

Not with skinny tube steel, that would be the king cage SS cages.


The new 3t stuff fits with everything, most is black stuff and nice

[Gummee]

Man but winter is going to be long if we're already this far into navel gazing

M

[ERK55]

I didn’t realize that wheels/rims were considered “cockpit”.

[unterhausen]

I didn’t realize that wheels/rims were considered “cockpit”.

I don't understand the question, is it just about bar tape, stems and handlebars? "Cockpit" suggests we're talking about brake levers to me.

[Elefantino]

Anything without a logo is the most neutral.

[benb]

I just use whatever I like.

That usually means Zipp handlebars & Fizik saddles. I like Mavic wheels. They're no-nonsense and I've had good longevity out of them. They don't do things like design the hubs for forced obsolescence like Shimano.

Stems are a major whatever. They need to be strong & not fail and clamp the steerer tube & handlebar effectively. They need to be the correct length and angle. That's all they need to do IMO. There are way better things to worry about than stem branding/fashion.

[mktng]

stem and seatpost.

i feel like Thomson goes well with anything.

[Jaybee]

Most manufacturers are on board with a contemporary minimal aesthetic, which means almost any part goes with any other part as long as they are functionally compatible.

Nearly every bike part I own was manufactured in China or Taiwan regardless of it's American/Italian/Japanese/whatever branding, so I'm not going to worry too much about throwing a Deda stem on a Cannondale.

[madsciencenow]

Man but winter is going to be long if we're already this far into navel gazing



M



Preach it!!


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[bigbill]

Back in 87, I was a rebel and put Modolo bars on my Mercian. Should have gotten a tattoo.

[Bostic]

Back in 87, I was a rebel and put Modolo bars on my Mercian. Should have gotten a tattoo.

I liked the Modolo x-tenos 8 bend ergonomic bars. Both my Trek 2100 and 1400 had them in the early 90's.

[berserk87]

Man but winter is going to be long if we're already this far into navel gazing

M

Yeah. I'm not sure if I legitimately don't understand the question being posed, or if my brain is trying to block my understanding of it for my own protection. In any event, I have to confess that I don't understand what is being asked.

[fiamme red]

The answer is easy: Campagnolo Neutrons. :)

[GOTHBROOKS]

my japanese “gruppo”

[Big Dan]

Most of the stuff is made in Taiwan.

[sales guy]

Ritchey- a more basic/utilitarian brand for bikes. They make nice high-end parts also, but it's still more a US/utilitarian brand.

PRO- obviously perfect for the Shimano builds cause they are owned by them. Higher end bikes, more Euro bike brands.

Enve- US, Europe, higher end bikes. Not many Asian brands though.

Deda- Europe, Asia, Italian. Mainly high-end bikes.

3TTT- US, Asia, Europe. Mainly middle end bikes.

Zipp- Mainly US and mainly higher end bike.

Cinelli- Not a ton of companies/brands stock it. So it's the uniques that use it. Asia mainly.

Thomson- US, Europe. Mainly middle end bikes.

Nitto- the unique builds.

House brands- obvious on this one.

FSA- aftermarket for repairs. Not many custom builds. US, Europe, Asia.

Fizik- not very popular. More custom bikes. Asia is bigger market.


ATMO of course. Not trying to sound stereotypical but the Asian market loves Italian products. Huge market. So things like Deda, 3TTT, Cinelli, Fizik, they will all have a bigger market there and more kits on bikes. That's how I know based my list above. Working for a couple global bike companies.

[steamer]

Yeah. I'm not sure if I legitimately don't understand the question being posed, or if my brain is trying to block my understanding of it for my own protection. In any event, I have to confess that I don't understand what is being asked.

You're not alone

[colker]

You're not alone

Agree. It´s just prejudice for the sake of nothing. Have your own style and obey no rules.

[zmalwo]

Thanks for the advice guys. I guess I shouldn't care about the small stuff like this.

[philhan89]

zipp aluminum components are subtle to the wallet and eyes. no crazy drops or sizes, though they do offer. go the beyond black option, black matches with everything. Ti hardware. the only minor gripe is that its T25.

also pleased with fizik products but more branding.

[zmalwo]

zipp aluminum components are subtle to the wallet and eyes. no crazy drops or sizes, though they do offer. go the beyond black option, black matches with everything. Ti hardware. the only minor gripe is that its T25.

also pleased with fizik products but more branding.

Fizik does seem like the solution since even the pros use fizik saddles regardless of their sponsors. Their stems are aesthetically pleasing to look at.

[sales guy]

Thanks for the advice guys. I guess I shouldn't care about the small stuff like this.

That's part of my job is worrying about these details. It's someones dream bike and my job is to make it happen and help them thru all the tiny details. So I got your question. I posted that list in the hopes of helping. But since you listed what you have, that will help.

For the Colnago, go with a Deda kit. It's great kit and they offer it in silver/alloy if the frame or components are alloy or have chrome. And they offer a silver alloy quill stem. So a great option. And if it's a carbon kit, they have the Superleggera/o which looks awesome and performs that way as well.

For the Tarmac, honestly, anything will work but I'd go with a PRO kit. I really like their parts. Well designed, look great, not horribly expensive and if you have an aero frame, you can get something like their Vibe Stealth bar with the one piece bar/stem design. Obviously getting a S kit would be fine too. But outside that I would get a PRO kit.

[GOTHBROOKS]

you cant run pro with campy.