Recumbent forum?

[buddybikes]

I may need to do day on day off with a recumbent due to back/feet/hands breakdown. I convinced my wife for me to try/look for a recumbent. Wondering if anyone new of good forums for me to check out.

thx

[unterhausen]

bent rider online, aka brol

[NHAero]

BROL for sure.
Happy to talk with you, I rode high end 'bents 2004-2006. Faster than an upright bike for me, even considering my then location in NH and VT.

[joosttx]

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B.R.O.L

[54ny77]

sorry can't suggest a forum, but i would highly recommend checking out schlitter recumbents if you need to go that route. they are sweet, beautifully crafted and crazy light/high performance. buddy of mine has one due to variety of back issues, and he suffers no roadie fools ("uprights" as they call 'em!) on the flats and descents!

[dnc]

BROL for sure.
Faster than an upright bike for me, even considering my then location in NH and VT.


What makes it faster ?

[unterhausen]

try drafting on one and you'll get the idea. They are significantly more aero

[dnc]

try drafting on one and you'll get the idea. They are significantly more aero

I am more interested in pedal power.

[NHAero]

The standard image amongst roadies of a recumbent rider is Santa Claus in a lawn chair :) My last 'bent was a Challenge Fujin SL 2. My times in hilly NH and VT routes were noticeably faster vs. on my conventional bikes. They are slower uphill, you can't stand up, but the aerodynamic advantage wins on the flats and downhill. These days the best 'bents weigh in closer to uprights than when I was riding them.

I went back to uprights when I realized that my discomfort on my Bob Jackson, built for me in 1972, was due to the frame being way too long for me (57.2 TT.) It's hard to ride a recumbent when the other folks you ride with are on uprights. But I do miss the feel of that Fujin - sitting that low to the pavement made it feel like I was going fast even when I wasn't!

Bents are very stable and I feel you are less likely to be as hurt in a crash. But the speedy ones are less visible to cars, so that adds risk.

What is also a fun ride is a small light lowslung trike, feels like a go cart. But heavier, less aero, and more rolling resistance, so slower.

[steamer]

I am more interested in pedal power.

They're not mopeds.

Bents are a lot of fun. A different riding experience to be sure, but it's just another form of cycling. It's all just pedaling.

[Ken Robb]

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[Ken Robb]

I tried several different models 10 years ago and suggest you try to do the same because there were significant differences that were not obvious just by looking at each one.

One of my long-time motorcycling pals used his 'bent for basic transportation around San Diego. He had quite a complete fairing and semi-permanent luggage. He also put way over 100,000 miles on his BMW GS 1100 too. He and his wife owned a car but they didn't use it very much.

I decided against buying a 'bent because of visibility problems. They can be pretty easy to see when flying neon orange flags but my ability to see what was happening around me in traffic was severely compromised because I was so close to the ground. If I lived in the country with little auto traffic I'd really consider owning one because they can be so comfy!

[EPOJoe]

Yep, bentrideronline would be the forum. I've been riding 'bents along with my "upright" road bikes for around a decade now. Everything has positives and negatives. For pure speed on the flats, my uprights have a hard time keeping up with my lowracer due to a dramatic aero advantage but it's still more fun climbing on an upright. For pure fun, it's hard to beat a trike, and some of the modern racing trikes can hold upright road bike speeds. My bro and I recently picked up a pair of Ice VTX racing trikes and we've both been shocked by how fast they are. No problem holding normal road bike speeds on these things for a 40 mile ride (for me that's 19-20mph). For a trike, that's astounding.

[steamer]

I tried several different models 10 years ago and suggest you try to do the same because there were significant differences that were not obvious just by looking at each one.

One of my long-time motorcycling pals used his 'bent for basic transportation around San Diego. He had quite a complete fairing and semi-permanent luggage. He also put way over 100,000 miles on his BMW GS 1100 too. He and his wife owned a car but they didn't use it very much.

I decided against buying a 'bent because of visibility problems. They can be pretty easy to see when flying neon orange flags but my ability to see what was happening around me in traffic was severely compromised because I was so close to the ground. If I lived in the country with little auto traffic I'd really consider owning one because they can be so comfy!

My emphasis.

Not all bents are low. The top of my helmet when riding this one is about 5" above the top of the neckrest. If I am on my Kish in the drops, the highest point on my back *might* be a few inches higher than that, but not by much. It might even be a little lower. (I haven't had it measured with me on the bikes).

On my low bents I help compensate for any conspicuity loss by using a flashing Dinotte in the back and Cygolite on the front.

Since bents have a natural head/eye forward position, I feel they help me see better and anticipate / see trouble more quickly.

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[buddybikes]

wonderful for the feedback, NHAERO why did you go back to regular? Did you ever get my Bilenky tandem operating, I so miss (mentally) that bike.

[dave thompson]

Yep, bentrideronline would be the forum. I've been riding 'bents along with my "upright" road bikes for around a decade now. Everything has positives and negatives. For pure speed on the flats, my uprights have a hard time keeping up with my lowracer due to a dramatic aero advantage but it's still more fun climbing on an upright. For pure fun, it's hard to beat a trike, and some of the modern racing trikes can hold upright road bike speeds. My bro and I recently picked up a pair of Ice VTX racing trikes and we've both been shocked by how fast they are. No problem holding normal road bike speeds on these things for a 40 mile ride (for me that's 19-20mph). For a trike, that's astounding.

My friend in Mexico has an Ice trike. I was astounded just how well it was crafted and made. He had crashed his trike and brought it to me for repairs. It needed nothing structurally, just bit and bobs. The manufacturer was very responsive as well as very helpful.

[NHAero]

The Bilenky is rejuvenated with Shimano 3x9 gearing and Scott AT2 LF bars, with XT V brakes. Not much usage, but my wife has been occasionally willing. Overall she's riding less this year.

I went back to conventional diamond frame bikes when I realized a 54 cm TT works better for me than a 57! Easy to ride with others. Also, only the Firefly has clipless pedals, all other bikes can be ridden in regular shoes so easy to commute, use for errands, etc. A racing bent needs clipless.

I looked at the Schlitter bikes another poster mentioned. John Schlitter was a principal at Bacchetta Bikes. Before I had the Fujin SL 2 I had a Bacchetta Ti Aero (hence NHAero - I also lived in NH at the time). The Aero was also fast, but the higher seat height and the very reclined position made it squirrelly at very low speeds, going up steep NH/VT hills. The Fujin for some reason was much easier to keep going in a straight line at low speeds. Another poster mentioned that you may want to try a number of bents, because the designs are so varied compared to uprights. I agree.

wonderful for the feedback, NHAERO why did you go back to regular? Did you ever get my Bilenky tandem operating, I so miss (mentally) that bike.

[shamsixnine]

Facebook has great recumbent pages/groups that are very active. In my opinion, better than bent rider online.
There are so many design philosophies when it comes to recumbents. Can be overwhelming to the uninitiated.
Good luck!

[buddybikes]

Big question is the where to try, not like these things are growing on trees.

I am up to 15 miles (7 weeks post op, l3 fusion via the side), but sciatica continues. I am nervous that something didn't go right inside. I know it is a long rehab, especially my age.

[Ken Robb]

My emphasis.

Not all bents are low. The top of my helmet when riding this one is about 5" above the top of the neckrest. If I am on my Kish in the drops, the highest point on my back *might* be a few inches higher than that, but not by much. It might even be a little lower. (I haven't had it measured with me on the bikes).

On my low bents I help compensate for any conspicuity loss by using a flashing Dinotte in the back and Cygolite on the front.

Since bents have a natural head/eye forward position, I feel they help me see better and anticipate / see trouble more quickly.

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The bents I tried were all quite low. My road bike is a 62cm and I like my bars at least as high as my saddle. When I'm riding near cars I am sitting up with my hands on the hood so my position has my head well above where it was on the bents that I tried.

[steamer]

The bents I tried were all quite low. My road bike is a 62cm and I like my bars at least as high as my saddle. When I'm riding near cars I am sitting up with my hands on the hood so my position has my head well above where it was on the bents that I tried.

How high is high enough?

I don't find I have more close calls and whatnot on my low bents.

Small sample size, though.

[buddybikes]

I am not overly concerned about height, as 75% of the riding will be on bike trails. If on regular roads much, would use very thoughtful lighting.

[steamer]

I am not overly concerned about height, as 75% of the riding will be on bike trails. If on regular roads much, would use very thoughtful lighting.

Actually not a bad idea no matter what one rides.

[steamer]

Big question is the where to try, not like these things are growing on trees.

I am up to 15 miles (7 weeks post op, l3 fusion via the side), but sciatica continues. I am nervous that something didn't go right inside. I know it is a long rehab, especially my age.

Where do you live?

[Ken Robb]

How high is high enough?

I don't find I have more close calls and whatnot on my low bents.

Small sample size, though.

I can look over cars and at least through the windows of SUVs. I've been hit by cars 4 times. The last time I needed 9 hours of surgery, some titanium bits to hold me together, 5 weeks in the hospital and a couple of months of PT so I'm probably more worried about seeing and being seen than a lot of riders.

[buddybikes]

>>Where do you live?

The ocean state, RI

[shamsixnine]

Rhode Island? Then you are lucky. Try these guys:
https://bike-on.com/?SID=slv8tf0ltv7dda4g3tlh3lp1tf

[steamer]

Another approach is to do some research to narrow the field, find some used bikes within reasonable driving distance, and buy something affordable to start out on. Ride it for a while. You will have learned more about what you prefer and don't prefer and your next bent will be even better. Most bent riders end up repeating the above steps at least a couple times. If anyone thinks they will buy the ‘perfect’ bike on the first try, they are being overly optimistic. With additional experience in hand, you will get closer to buying the ‘perfect’ bike each time you go through the process of evaluating your needs. Another complicating fact that your needs /desires will change rapidly at first. You may be happiest on a certain type at first before you have improved your skills, but that machine may feel limiting after a while. It's an unfortunate but generally still true fact that the easier the bent is to ride, the slower it is. Something like a velomobile will buck that generalization, but I am assuming you are sticking to unfaired bents, at least at first.

[EPOJoe]

What Steamer said. I currently have a collection of five different recumbents and I’ve sold at least five others and they were all purchased used locally through Craigslist or the Bentrider forum for usually less than half their new price. This also helps if you decide you want to sell a ‘bent to try a different type- easy to get your money back.

[Ken Robb]

How do people transport bents if they don't want to start a ride from home? Obviously a pickup would make it easy but can you use a trunk-mount rack on a sedan?

[steamer]

How do people transport bents if they don't want to start a ride from home? Obviously a pickup would make it easy but can you use a trunk-mount rack on a sedan?

I am able to get mine in the back of my Subaru Imprezza 5-door with the rear seats down and the front passenger seat pushed forward, and with the front wheel removed from the bike. I do this at least once a week.

But yes, recumbent bikes can often be used on something like a trunk rack, but they aren't usually quite as stable as an upright bike on such a rack because on a bent, more of the bike's mass is above the rack's support bars instead of below it.

Roof racks can work well too.

The only recumbents that are especially hard to transport for everyday rides are velomobiles.

[buddybikes]

This looks pretty cool, getting rid of that massive amount of chain: https://www.lightningbikes.com/media/201804-RTR_64/index.html

...just $6,500