Gravel - what’s your gearing look like?

[nobuseri]

I am talking hilly courses; 8%+ at times.

Anyone running 46/30 front? If so, what rear?
Trying to stay 2X; right now I have a 46/36 front. I may just go 34 or 36 rear and see how it goes.

Thanks

[weisan]

Trying to stay 2X

I heard you.

I went from 1X to 2X and finally, to a triple.

Couldn't be happier.

30-42-52 front
11-36 rear

I like to cover all my bases.

I don't like to strain myself going up a hill.

I like having a bail-out gear.

[AngryScientist]

46/30 x 11/32 (9-speed).

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[saab2000]

34/46 in front and 11-32 in the rear.

I'm thinking I may get Shimano's still-unavailable GRX group when they are available to the public. This will have even lower gearing.

[type2sam]

My Honey Cross setup is kinda crazy, but I've got a 50/34 up front and depending upon the wheelset I'm using either 11-40 (when I'm out in the woods on single track or the big hills of Western Mass) or 11-28 when I've got the road slicks on.

It's not perfect but I seem to have arrived at the right amount of chain + long cage derailleur + RoadLink to make it all work well enough.

I like the idea of a 46/30 and a smaller variance in cassettes.

On my Mercian I've got a 48/38/24 with an 11-28 cassette. Almost the same gear inches on the low end as the 34x40 on the Honey. The jump from the 38 to the 24 is always a bit dicey...many a dropped chain.

[stev0]

42/28 up front, 11-32 in the rear.

[owly]

Running 1 below 1:1 at the moment. One more below that (unloaded) and I feel that would cover the longest/steepest grades I come across. 40/26 with 12/27.

[SlowPokePete]

Lynskey 46/30 with 34 rear...11spd.


SPP

[XXtwindad]

I have two gravel bikes. One is a few weeks away from being built up and the other is being built. I don't have any flat roads near me. Just a bunch of big hills. And my bike travels will also entail some big hills (Alps, etc...) So my gearing reflects that. With a 1X, you lose something - either on the top ends or the climbs. I'd rather do a little coasting downhill.

Bike # 1: 40t in front 10-42 in back.
Bike # 2: 36t in front 9-46 in back. That's my "climb anything" steed :)

[ShockTreatment]

I've done Hilly Billy and GRUSK -- twice each. Gearing was 10 speed with 48-34 front and either 12-29 or 12-30 in the rear. Grades were 10% or more at times. Gearing was adequate, although I would have preferred having a 32 in the rear.

[Gummee]

I've done Hilly Billy and GRUSK -- twice each. Gearing was 10 speed with 48-34 front and either 12-29 or 12-30 in the rear. Grades were 10% or more at times. Gearing was adequate, although I would have preferred having a 32 in the rear.

I've done HBR on 34/50 every time with cassettes varying between 11/28 (my fastest time) to 11/34 for the last few years.

Last year when my legs forgot to show up, I was on an 11-32

I think I'll go to a 30t big cog for next year

M

[GregL]

My chainrings are 46/34 and my cassettes are 11-28, 11-32, or 11-34 depending on the terrain. The 34-34 combo is nice on steep grades with loose, rutted gravel.

Greg

[dem]

Double with 44/28 and 10-44.

I use the 28-44 every ride on the dirt. :)

[Jaybee]

48/32 up front and 11/36 out back. Not sure my (RD R8000)could handle any more chain wrap without a road link. 32x11 is already looser than I like, but it’s an easy gear to stay out of. 32x36 is just barely enough for the longest loosest climbs I’ve ridden on this bike, but it would be easy to find harder out here.

If this weren’t my only road bike, I’d just go 1x.

[XXtwindad]

Double with 44/28 and 10-44.

I use the 28-44 every ride on the dirt. :)

Wow. That's a wide range. Impressive. That will get you up the Coastal Trail for sure. This is a ten speed set-up? What's the derailleur and who makes the crank?

[dem]

Wow. That's a wide range. Impressive. That will get you up the Coastal Trail for sure. This is a ten speed set-up? What's the derailleur and who makes the crank?

It's definitely a Frankenstein drive train:

Shimano ST-RS685 11 speed shifters (mechanical shifting/hydraulic brakes)

Front:
MTB XTR M985 crankset, BSA, two spacers on the NDS side so I can use a road FD (I fix the Q-factor by moving my cleats inward on the NDS, and out on the DS)
Ultegra 11 speed front derailler

Rear:
XTR RD-M9000 11 speed mountain bike derailler with:
Tanpan travel agent to change mountain to road pull
Wolftooth hanger extender to clear the 44T cog

SRAM XX1 cassette, with Wolftooth 44T replacement cog (stock is 10-42) - requires an XD driver hub (I have DT240S hubs that can fit anything.)

Small-small has barely any chain tension, but obviously I don't use that.
Large-large is very snug, but doesn't explode - I set it up to start being noisy one cog below large-large as a warning, and it is REAL loud in big-big.. so I stay outta there.

[John H.]

34-50 and 11-40 cassette.

Several of my favorite climbs average 11-12%. Not crazy long- Maybe 2 miles at most. But they feel much longer at that grade.

[XXtwindad]

It's definitely a Frankenstein drive train:

Shimano ST-RS685 11 speed shifters (mechanical shifting/hydraulic brakes)

Front:
MTB XTR M985 crankset, BSA, two spacers on the NDS side so I can use a road FD (I fix the Q-factor by moving my cleats inward on the NDS, and out on the DS)
Ultegra 11 speed front derailler

Rear:
XTR RD-M9000 11 speed mountain bike derailler with:
Tanpan travel agent to change mountain to road pull
Wolftooth hanger extender to clear the 44T cog

SRAM XX1 cassette, with Wolftooth 44T replacement cog (stock is 10-42) - requires an XD driver hub (I have DT240S hubs that can fit anything.)

Small-small has barely any chain tension, but obviously I don't use that.
Large-large is very snug, but doesn't explode - I set it up to start being noisy one cog below large-large as a warning, and it is REAL loud in big-big.. so I stay outta there.

Did you set that up yourself? If so, kudos. It's complicated enough just reading it ... :)

[Hilltopperny]

I have two gravel bikes with one double and the other 1x.

The double is 52/36 with an 10/40 in the rear. It is a bit of overkill, but it helps with the dirt climbs with my heavy arse.

My 1x setup is 34t oval up front with an 11-34 in the rear. It is sufficient for most of the gravel riding I do. The 1 to 1 ratio is also necessary for the tougher dirt climbs.

My wifes is set up with a 46-30 and a 11-32, but she usually just rides it with me on the canalway trail while I tow our son along in the burley solo. I have taken around town a few times, but no off road experience on it.

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[aaronf]

38T chainring
11-28 or 11-36 11sp cassette depending on course/route.
Based in Altanta for reference. South of here mostly 11-28. North GA mountains (like Southern Cross course) area brings the 11-36.

[dem]

Did you set that up yourself? If so, kudos. It's complicated enough just reading it ... :)

Ha, yeah.. I'd say I'm mechanically inclined. Built many bikes/cars/motorcycles.. :)

The good news is I think the new Shimano gravel stuff should come very close to this combination with just a Wolflink to get some more cog clearance.

The big question is chain capacity, which is a function of how long the RD cage is. So hopefully someone comes out with a longer cage if necessary - since it's based on the mountain bike stuff, this shouldn't be a problem.

[jtbadge]

48/32 up front and 11/36 out back. Not sure my (RD R8000)could handle any more chain wrap without a road link. 32x11 is already looser than I like, but it’s an easy gear to stay out of. 32x36 is just barely enough for the longest loosest climbs I’ve ridden on this bike, but it would be easy to find harder out here.

If this weren’t my only road bike, I’d just go 1x.

I'm liking this combination, also.
-6800GS rear derailleur, no WolfTooth
-R8000 front derailleur (for tire clearance on short chainstays)
-11-36 PG1170 cassette
-48/32 Praxis crank

In the midwest I was running 50/34 with 11-32, but the fire road climbs out here are brutal.

[Duende]

50/34 up front, 11-34 in the back. Sure which my dear derailleur could do a 36. Gonna try it one of these days.

Hills are steep here in NoCal, but I also don’t have a car... so its miles on roads before I see dirt. Other than wishing I had a 36, I’m feeling pretty good about my current gearing.

[purpurite]

My setup is a 42t Wolftooth chainring with a 11-32 (11x1) SRAM cassette and I love it. I wouldn't change anything on my gearing, but in the Midwest, I'm not spending a lot of time climbing long or steep.

I spend about 90% of my ride in the 4 middle gears on the cassette, unless I'm ripping through a flat limestone trail looking for a fast Strava segment.

[Spdntrxi]

40T front
9-46 in the rear
The above I just got... was on a 10-44 before.

I have some ugly 15% ramps to get to the good stuff ... There is areas of 20+% that I just avoid.

[ColonelJLloyd]

42/28 up front, 11-32 in the rear.

Same.

Been using this gearing since early 2016. I spin out on some road descents, but by and large this combo has been really good to me with 700x35 and high volume 650b. My chain line seems to be better in the gears I'm most often using compared to other gearing combos I've used. And a single FD shift, or double shift, is often just right for the kind of hills and rollers I ride.

On gravel I've not found myself in need of a bigger gear than 42/11.

[weiwentg]

A funny story. I did my first gravel ride, the Tour de Save 55 mile gravel event in Northfield, last week. I had a 36/46 front and a 11-28 rear cassette - I'd converted an old pair of wheels with a Campy hub to tubeless, but the drivetrain is 11s Shimano. I'd got an 11s Campy cassette as an interim step on my main pair of road wheels. The rear hub is starting to go, so I'd got a different pair of wheels, and I just wanted to try out gravel on that older pair of wheels.

In the back of my mind I was wondering why everyone needed such low gears for gravel. I figured that it was only a 55 mile ride, and I could grind it out if I had to. Well, I did have to.

If I stick with my cyclocross bike (Gunnar Crosshairs) on gravel, I'll be getting a 12-32 Campy cassette for my next gravel ride.

[stev0]

Same.

Been using this gearing since early 2016. I spin out on some road descents, but by and large this combo has been really good to me with 700x35 and high volume 650b. My chain line seems to be better in the gears I'm most often using compared to other gearing combos I've used. And a single FD shift, or double shift, is often just right for the kind of hills and rollers I ride.

On gravel I've not found myself in need of a bigger gear than 42/11.

Definitely - I'm never really attacking descents and I'm too out of shape for fast road rides (and wouldn't take this bike on those anyway) so this gearing works great for my all-rounder/cross/gravel bike. The gearing is also small enough to take me up some big climbs when I'm well out of shape.

[scoobydrew]

Bike 1: Front 46/34 & Rear 11-34
Bike 2: Front 42 & Rear 11-42

[Luwabra]

46/32 WI vbc and 11/32

Orrrr

42/19 and if I walk well I walk.

[bigbill]

Ultegra 36/46 with an 11-32. The RD will officially take a 34 so likely bigger in reality. I think a 34 would be more useful than the 36, but it hasn't limited me.

[dddd]

My old gravel bike (Performance Parabola) runs a 30-40-50t with a 7s 13-34t.

My newer Fuji CX/gravel bike with Mavic Allroad Elite wheelset runs 50-34t with a 12-34t nine-speed in back.

Both are fully adequate for both my on- and off-road riding here in the foothills.

[R3awak3n]

47/32 in the front and 11-36 in the back. I like it, low enough for about everything. Anything steeper, might as well walk

[tony_mm]

40 x 11-40

I also have a 38 chainring and 11-42 and 11-46 in case.

[NHAero]

44-33 in front and 11-40 11s rear on the Anderson with a Wolftooth DM on an R8000 in prep for D2R2. Wish I had a lower small ring for the front. The Litespeed has the same with a 42-28 front, but gets a fair bit of single track use as well as dirt roads.

[Bob Ross]

48/32 up front, 11-32 (11-speed) out back.

[commonguy001]

Currently 50/34 up front and 11/40 out back with a RoadLink and RX800 derailleur. I get use of most gears but stay away from extreme cross chaining.
My current fitness is pretty mediocre (but coming along) and I live in a valley so most of my rides involve significant elevation on both pavement and gravel. 34/40 gets used every single ride and if I went 46/30 I’d likely be in that 30/40 combo pretty regularly as well.

[nobuseri]

Thanks for all the replies. A data set to sift through. :)
Fitness plays a part in it, I know, but some hills (given the terrain) would be a lot easier with better gearing.

The only thing that worries me about the 46/30 setup is shifting back to the 46 from the 30 ring. The diff between rings is within spec, but it may prove to be a bit lower than some of the pre-mounted FD hangers will allow. I may do a bit of shaving the mount section if that turns out to be the case.

Or, I may just try to stay 46 and drop to a 34 inner, and move the rear to an 11 or 12-34. I will have to play with the numbers and see. This bike will be for gravel, but I like to do a lot of mixed terrain events as well as some cross races.

[unterhausen]

42/28 up front, 11-32 in the rear.That's what I use. MTB crank. Our gravel is either big up or big down. There is very little need for higher gears, I get scared enough without pedaling to go faster. Even if I lived in a place with little rollers, I'm not sure I would go higher on the gearing. The truth is that 42-11 is a pretty steep gear unless you are in a big pack on smooth pavement. I have used this bike for randonneuring events, most recently on a flat 600km brevet. No issue with keeping up with people. On a steeper hill with gravel, it takes a lot of concentration to stand, and I find that it's not worth it. So it's best to have a low gear.

[nalax]

42/28 up front, 11-32 in the rear.

Add me to the list. Potenza geartrain with a SRAM crankset.

[GregL]

This bike will be for gravel, but I like to do a lot of mixed terrain events as well as some cross races.
Unless the gravel roads you plan to use aren't too steep, the gearing needs of gravel and cross are very different. You can use the same gearing for both, but you may have significant compromises to accept. I learned this the hard way the first time I tackled a very tough gravel race course with cross gearing (46/36 chainrings, 12-27 cassette).

Greg

[Mzilliox]

1x with 42 front 10-42 rear. gets the job done

[nobuseri]

I just made the same mishap in a gravel race this past weekend (46/36, 11-28). Most of the 20 mile loop was fine on the 36 ring, but there was a steep pitch that I suffered (eventually walked) greatly on. First time around on the loop was OK, but after that, the legs scream for help. Would have been nice to ride up the grade. This was a wake up call for what I am guessing I will face in similar rides/events. A lot of people had a lot lower gearing. A lot of 1X setups.

Maybe the diff in gearing really does call for two diff bikes (or at least two diff setups). Good feedback here; I may give the 46/30 a shot and go lower in the rear (34 at least). That may be a decent compromise for both disciplines.

Unless the gravel roads you plan to use aren't too steep, the gearing needs of gravel and cross are very different. You can use the same gearing for both, but you may have significant compromises to accept. I learned this the hard way the first time I tackled a very tough gravel race course with cross gearing (46/36 chainrings, 12-27 cassette).

Greg

[Jaybee]

Slightly tangential, anyone with a Roadlink or Roadlink DM have comments on the performance? I'd be interested in upping my cassette from 11-36 to an 11-40 or 11-42, but I'm concerned about the total chain wrap capacity of my RD (Ultegra 8000) with 48/32 chainrings.

[mktng]

i run 46/36 with an XT clutch rd with the help of a tanpan.
im currently running 11-32 but have the option to run up to 40?

surely that gearing could get me up anything

[genefruit]

46/30 Easton with 11-34 Shimano 11spd.

[efixler]

48/32 front 11-32 rear, but I kinda wish I had 11-34 rear

[JEFFTHEROBOT]

I run a 1x on my Open.
32t up front and 9/46 E-thirteen cassette in the rear.

[moonhoo]

48/32 front and 11-36 rear on my BMC Monster Cross.

Works fine for me on most climbs in the NY / MA / CT area but I definitely wish I had lower in the front, especially for times when I'm carrying food. Summers are only getting hotter, and tackling those long slow climbs at max heart rate and 100F+ degree heat can't be so good for the body.

[XXtwindad]

I run a 1x on my Open.
32t up front and 9/46 E-thirteen cassette in the rear.

That's the way to do it Jeff!

[XXtwindad]

Here's what I've occasionally encountered, and I'm curious as to why: opposition to big cassettes. Is there some unwritten law of cycling that mandates you have to climb 12 percent grade hills with an 11-28? Or even 11-32?

I'm not talking about people with different preferences, but the individuals I've encountered (and there have been more than a few) who look at a 10-42 with utter disdain. Why is that? Just curious ...

[ColonelJLloyd]

Here's what I've occasionally encountered, and I'm curious as to why: opposition to big cassettes. Is there some unwritten law of cycling that mandates you have to climb 12 percent grade hills with an 11-28? Or even 11-32?

I'm not talking about people with different preferences, but the individuals I've encountered (and there have been more than a few) who look at a 10-42 with utter disdain. Why is that? Just curious ...

They're likely the same people who whine that 32mm tires are "balloons". I've encountered a lot of older roadies who, like a lot of people, just seem to scoff at what they don't understand. You know, like gearing maths. They're in all walks of life, but the ones who are cyclists seem to make themselves known loudly.

[nobuseri]

I will admit that I am (was?) in that camp that tried to keep the cassettes in the rear on the smaller side. More so because I don’t like the jump in between lower gears. Some of the jumps between gears are pretty extreme! :(

I ride primarily road. I am learning that gravel is a diff ball game altogether. And not just talking gearing and bike handling. :)

But yes, I am seeing the light when it comes to steeper pitches and gravel. Lots of good feedback here. Will be making some adjustments in the next couple weeks to see how it goes.

[tony_mm]

Here's what I've occasionally encountered, and I'm curious as to why: opposition to big cassettes. Is there some unwritten law of cycling that mandates you have to climb 12 percent grade hills with an 11-28? Or even 11-32?

I'm not talking about people with different preferences, but the individuals I've encountered (and there have been more than a few) who look at a 10-42 with utter disdain. Why is that? Just curious ...

Yes for old roadies like me, riding with big cassette meant in the old days that you were not strong enough for cycling. The biggest you could go was 39-26 and riding big gears was a sign of strength (Ullrich etc..). At that time, MTB was just starting, gravel biking was not there etc....That was also the time before Mr. Armstrong and his spinning cadence.

Many things have changed since these times. Armstrong won several TdF, MTB is popular, powermeter are widely available etc....

Some old roadies are still thinking the same than before (I have to admit that it is hard for me to change. I still ride big gears..).
And some people would like to look like the old roadies I suppose.
And many people just don't understand cycling, gears, cadence, power, etc....
And last but not least many people just want to show that they (!) are the true one etc....

[timto]

Here's what I've occasionally encountered, and I'm curious as to why: opposition to big cassettes. Is there some unwritten law of cycling that mandates you have to climb 12 percent grade hills with an 11-28? Or even 11-32?

I'm not talking about people with different preferences, but the individuals I've encountered (and there have been more than a few) who look at a 10-42 with utter disdain. Why is that? Just curious ...

I use a 46/30 TA crank with a 28 or 30 rear and get a 1:1 no problem. I find the big cassettes really heavy as well as unsightly:)

[HTupolev]

Here's what I've occasionally encountered, and I'm curious as to why: opposition to big cassettes. Is there some unwritten law of cycling that mandates you have to climb 12 percent grade hills with an 11-28? Or even 11-32?

I'm not talking about people with different preferences, but the individuals I've encountered (and there have been more than a few) who look at a 10-42 with utter disdain. Why is that? Just curious ...
Mostly wide gear spacing, especially if a gravel bike will see lots of paved road use.

Big cassettes also have a ton of rotating inertia when a bike is being pedaled at high speed. This can result in poor behaviors on drivetrains without damped tensioners, like the upper run of the chain going slack and slapping about whenever you start coasting on a descent.

They're likely the same people who whine that 32mm tires are "balloons".
I've currently got an 11-28 cassette on my gravel bike, but my lowest gear is lower than on some of my friends' bikes with 42-tooth big cogs. And I've got 2" tires. :)

[AngryScientist]

Caring about what other cyclists think about the size of your cassette is so weird.

[XXtwindad]

Caring about what other cyclists think about the size of your cassette is so weird.

That wasn't really my point. It was more of a general question about the antipathy toward larger cassettes, and where that antipathy came from.

[GregL]

That wasn't really my point. It was more of a general question about the antipathy toward larger cassettes, and where that antipathy came from.
In my case, I like cassettes with small jumps between cogs. Since I'm running a double-chainring crankset, I don't need a cassette larger than an 11-34. If I were running a single chainring for gravel riding, I would undoubtedly have a wider ratio cassette.

Greg

[PeregrineA1]

46/36 and 11-32 on the Blackcat.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190806/0e7932198ab276f4857af48d388b4c90.jpg


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[XXtwindad]

46/36 and 11-32 on the Blackcat.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190806/0e7932198ab276f4857af48d388b4c90.jpg


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Black Cat! A rarity! Nice steed! I feel like there might have been an earlier thread on this, but how did Todd clear those chainstays with a double? Those are 29er tires or 650s?

[marciero]

46/34 front with 11-36 back on the gravel/camper.

Due to a recent broken crank on another bike I've done some swapping of cranks and is perfect excuse to try the new GRX on this bike, esp. at $150. This will increase the Q from 148 to 151, which I am okay with on this bike, though I definitely felt the 3mm difference from 145 to 148 on another bike.

Speaking of subcompact options, I see a few people listing "46/40". It would be great to create a google spreadsheet with all the options along with the Q and chainline numbers. Some of this information, esp. that specific to the SRAM road cranks with various spiders, is in the recent thread on subcompact gearing. As I recall, MarkMcM's motivation for exploring options was a desire for subcompact with low Q.

[TheseGoTo11]

10 speed triple setups on both "gravel-ish" bikes. Bombtrack Audax with 650bx47mm tires has 50-39-30 on Ultegra 6703 crankset with 12-36 cassette (12 & 13 cogs from HG500, 15-17-19-21-24-28-32-36 from XTR M980). Moots Baxter has XT 40-30-22 with 11-32 cassette on 29x 2.1s.

[TheseGoTo11]

Oh, and that Black Cat is :banana::banana::banana:

[choke]

50/34 and 13-29 (10sp)
26/36/48 and 13-30 (7sp)
48/35 and 13-30 (6sp)
46/30 and 14-28 (6sp)

[HTupolev]

The drivetrain on my gravel bike right now is 48-38-24 with 11-13-15-18-21-24-28. Sufficient high-end (113") for spirited road riding, usually-sufficient low-end (22") for the mountainous gravel roads in the Cascade foothills. It mostly looks like an old-school 3x7 wide-range mountain triple, but the two larger chainrings 1.5-step the cassette, so at road-riding speeds I can find tight ratios when I want them. Overall it gives me about 16 or 17 unique useful ratios, depending on how much I care about cross-chaining that day.

[PeregrineA1]

Black Cat! A rarity! Nice steed! I feel like there might have been an earlier thread on this, but how did Todd clear those chainstays with a double? Those are 29er tires or 650s?



The tires in the pic are 27.5 x 2.35. I also have a set of 700 x 50.

It’s Boost with a custom spider on the White Industries crank and an offset spacer on the FD clamp.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190806/604f978fdbdb116a1494f13f5c85d024.jpg not sure if one can get that detail from this photo.


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[vqdriver]

44/30 and 11/32.... i don't use the 11

https://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1697894882&stc=1&d=1423360084

[Ttx1]

50-34 / 11-34. I rarely use the 11 in back or 34 in front.

[merlinmurph]

Ultegra 11 sp
50/34 crank
11-36 Sram cassette
36 is out of spec for the RD, but works fine.

This is on a bike I use for both road and gravel with two sets of wheels. Very seriously considering putting a 46/30 crank on after failing on two hills in the Franconia NH area, though I think I'd still fail. Also, as just another concession to old age.

[MikeD]

22x32x44 crank, 11x32 10 speed cassette, bar end shifters. My gravel bike is also a touring bike. 700x42 or 38 tires too.

[weisan]

Ultegra 11 sp
50/34 crank
11-36 Sram cassette
36 is out of spec for the RD, but works fine.

This is on a bike I use for both road and gravel with two sets of wheels. Very seriously considering putting a 46/30 crank on after failing on two hills in the Franconia NH area, though I think I'd still fail. Also, as just another concession to old age.

murph pal, it's time to get on with the program...

[Clean39T]

44/30 and 11/32.... i don't use the 11



https://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1697894882&stc=1&d=1423360084Can we get a full bike pic? I'm digging that colorway...

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[Clean39T]

I am talking hilly courses; 8%+ at times.

Anyone running 46/30 front? If so, what rear?
Trying to stay 2X; right now I have a 46/36 front. I may just go 34 or 36 rear and see how it goes.

ThanksI've found 34/36 to be adequate for everything up to 20%, but I still want to go 31/36 as my low on the rig I'm working on. I wish there was a 13/36 cassette available.

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