Anyone know a source for live commentary/updates on Dirty Kanza?

[MattTuck]

Curious if anyone is doing live twitter updates (or another platform) on the race situation.

They must have a lead car that someone could be tweeting from, right?

[charliedid]

Curious if anyone is doing live twitter updates (or another platform) on the race situation.

They must have a lead car that someone could be tweeting from, right?

This is one way

https://twitter.com/dirtykanza200

[Davist]

not exactly real time, but this works, some buddies are doing it so we used to look them up (timing is by the checkpoints), none of the proposed live links we had seem to work.. https://www.athlinks.com/event/174195/results/Event/824572/Course/1456257/Results

[MattTuck]

Got it. Have been using both of these.

[Matthew]

Just curious if one of the world tour pros won?

[joosttx]

Just curious if one of the world tour pros won?

Colin Strickland of Austin TX. He broke 10hrs.

[weisan]

Colin Strickland of Austin TX. He broke 10hrs.

check out his bike

https://www.instagram.com/colinatx/

Colin is a beast. He's not riding his bike, he's practically beating it up, pounding it to submission. It's a horrific sight to behold.

[Mzilliox]

We sure are good at taking the fun out and putting the marketing in.

[joosttx]

Bummed Ted King didn’t win. He use to live in the hood and is a great guy.

[Clean39T]

https://www.velonews.com/2019/06/gravel/colin-strickland-wins-dirty-kanza-200-with-daring-breakaway_494437

Bonus SRAM battery failure content -- [emoji1787]

https://racing.trekbikes.com/stories/trek-segafredo-men/custom-checkpoints-for-the-dirty-kanza

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[weisan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH6EhFapddo

[MattTuck]

Our local guy finished 16th overall, which is pretty impressive.


Bonus SRAM battery failure content -- [emoji1787]


A dead electronic shifting battery sent him back into the pits at the race’s midpoint, and occurred just as Strickland attacked.

Wonder if that is just a diplomatic way of describing another type of failure.

[choke]

We sure are good at taking the fun out and putting the marketing in.+11ty billion

[pdonk]

I wonder what USCF and the UCI are going to do about pros and Olympic hopefuls doing this event. I doubt it was sanctioned and the rules prohibit licensed athletes from participating in non sanctioned events.

[rzthomas]

We sure are good at taking the fun out and putting the marketing in.

Pretty sure everyone there was having just as much fun* regardless if the pros were jamming at the front of the race.

*I love bikes, but nothing sounds less fun to me as riding my bike for 10+ hours.

[marciero]

I think it's interesting to have the odd Euro pro in the race. It gives a measure of the difficulty. As Stetina points out, UCI Pro Tour experience does not directly translate to events like this. It's like the Ruta, where it was many years before a non-Costa Rican won, despite all the Tinker Juarezes trying.

I think it's also cool that they seem to be mostly motivated by the fun and adventure aspect-same as everyone else in the race.

Here is an American style discipline-gravel/adventure racing and riding-that has captured the imagination of riders worldwide at all levels. That's pretty cool.

[R3awak3n]

I think it's interesting to have the odd Euro pro in the race. It gives a measure of the difficulty. As Stetina points out, UCI Pro Tour experience does not directly translate to events like this. It's like the Ruta, where it was many years before a non-Costa Rican won, despite all the Tinker Juarezes trying.

I think it's also cool that they seem to be mostly motivated by the fun and adventure aspect-same as everyone else in the race.

Here is an American style discipline-gravel/adventure racing and riding-that has captured the imagination of riders worldwide at all levels. That's pretty cool.

Agree with this and last post too.

Sure its getting less grass roots but looks like everyone had a blast. I think some had a bigger kick out of it because some pros were in it. However I bet in this specific race it will get more and more serious and probably in a few years it will be much harder for the average person to do it. Maybe I am wrong and I hope I am but sure seems like it.

Seems like a great race though, I would much rather watch something like this than any of the grand tours.

[rzthomas]

Agree with this and last post too.

Sure its getting less grass roots but looks like everyone had a blast. I think some had a bigger kick out of it because some pros were in it. However I bet in this specific race it will get more and more serious and probably in a few years it will be much harder for the average person to do it. Maybe I am wrong and I hope I am but sure seems like it.

Seems like a great race though, I would much rather watch something like this than any of the grand tours.

The thing about gravel racing is that many races have followed the "mullet" theme –– all business up front, party in the back, and at the finish line a good time for all. I don't think that's going to go away, even if the trend of pros taking part in these events continues.

[MattTuck]

A bit of history, original bike racing was largely a promotion effort for equipment manufacturers to show the durability and performance of their products. The worldTour racing today is largely decided by human performance, over extremely smooth pavement, so it has largely lost its place as a demonstration of durability (with the exception of Roubaix).

These unsupported gravel races seem to be more in the vein of cycling history as a space where human AND equipment have to hold up to the brutality of the race.

Knowing that an inopportune flat early in the race could eliminate a rider from contention, I'm not sure that WT teams are ever going to put huge amounts of effort into pursuing these events, unless they can negotiate some on road support for their riders.

[pdmtong]

Our local guy finished 16th overall, which is pretty impressive. Wonder if that is just a diplomatic way of describing another type of failure.
Its hard for me to believe that a rider who believes they can achieve the podium would not carry a single spare battery or start the ride with new charged fresh batteries. If it really was a dead battery that is a sad way to DNF
A bit of history, original bike racing was largely a promotion effort for equipment manufacturers to show the durability and performance of their products. The worldTour racing today is largely decided by human performance, over extremely smooth pavement, so it has largely lost its place as a demonstration of durability (with the exception of Roubaix).

These unsupported gravel races seem to be more in the vein of cycling history as a space where human AND equipment have to hold up to the brutality of the race.

Knowing that an inopportune flat early in the race could eliminate a rider from contention, I'm not sure that WT teams are ever going to put huge amounts of effort into pursuing these events, unless they can negotiate some on road support for their riders.

Good thoughts here matt.

Sub-10 for 200 on gravel is mind blowing to me.

[yinzerniner]

Its hard for me to believe that a rider who believes they can achieve the podium would not carry a single spare battery or start the ride with new charged fresh batteries. If it really was a dead battery that is a sad way to DNF


Think you got the threading of the comments incorrect. The "dead battery" is from a single mention in a race report for Stetina who finished second behind the winner Strickland. Stetina didn't DNF but rather it's been reported that the dead battery came at a crucial moment.

Stetina said he suffered an early flat tire which forced him into the tech pits at mile 50 and saw him chase to get back on. A dead electronic shifting battery sent him back into the pits at the race’s midpoint, and occurred just as Strickland attacked.
https://www.velonews.com/2019/06/gravel/colin-strickland-wins-dirty-kanza-200-with-daring-breakaway_494437

There's no other mention of details for that mechanical issue. People are just speculating or trolling on SRAM otherwise.

That being said, if there indeed was a "dead electronic shifting batter" that could have been a host of different problems that might not have been anticipated by the pro riders or their support because of the particular demands of Kanza vs every other single day race. Maybe the rated reserve of the battery only anticipates normal road riding and not 200 mile gravel jaunts with increased shifting. Also the "dead battery" might have been a structural issue as SRAM batteries are known to have a weak point at the securing tab which makes them basically useless.

Too much speculation, projection, trolling and biased soapboxing, not enough celebration at what sounds like an incredible experience. Can't wait for Ted King's wrapup.

[MattTuck]

Yes, the point was that it probably was not actually a dead battery. Especially since, as Stetina's instagram notes, this was the 'bike's maiden voyage'.

Probably some other failure. No one is doing that much shifting over 200 miles to kill a battery! c'mon :)

[weisan]

Another video highlight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAJq6CPGfSk

[marciero]

If we are playing "what if" with Stetina and others we should note too that Strickland had to deal with multiple flats.

[pdmtong]

Think you got the threading of the comments incorrect. The "dead battery" is from a single mention in a race report for Stetina who finished second behind the winner Strickland. Stetina didn't DNF but rather it's been reported that the dead battery came at a crucial moment.
https://www.velonews.com/2019/06/gravel/colin-strickland-wins-dirty-kanza-200-with-daring-breakaway_494437

There's no other mention of details for that mechanical issue. People are just speculating or trolling on SRAM otherwise.

That being said, if there indeed was a "dead electronic shifting batter" that could have been a host of different problems that might not have been anticipated by the pro riders or their support because of the particular demands of Kanza vs every other single day race. Maybe the rated reserve of the battery only anticipates normal road riding and not 200 mile gravel jaunts with increased shifting. Also the "dead battery" might have been a structural issue as SRAM batteries are known to have a weak point at the securing tab which makes them basically useless.

Too much speculation, projection, trolling and biased soapboxing, not enough celebration at what sounds like an incredible experience. Can't wait for Ted King's wrapup.

Yes, the point was that it probably was not actually a dead battery. Especially since, as Stetina's instagram notes, this was the 'bike's maiden voyage'.

Probably some other failure. No one is doing that much shifting over 200 miles to kill a battery! c'mon :)

you guys are right...dead battery could be symptomatic about something else. tough to be hampered by another variant of a "mechanical" but that is racing.

yes, unreal sub-10

[Clean39T]

The SRAM ribbing was on the back of the Mollema tirade caught live in the Giro a few days ago.. It's not soapboxing - it's having a chuckle at the publicly-aired misfortunes of sram/trek lately in the pro ranks. If Campy systems were publicly failing left right and center, we'd jawbone about that.

Looks like a heckuva race was had though, and major props to all who completed it!

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[weisan]

https://s27394.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/5P5A0588-720x405.jpg

Jay Petervary won the DK XL setting a new record time for the race. Photo: Brad Kaminski | VeloNews.com

[weisan]

https://s27394.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/212A0069-720x405.jpg

“At 18 miles to go I hit the wall. Shout out to the girl who gave me a Twizzler with 10 miles to go because it brought me out of a dark place.” ~ Peter Stetina

[weisan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGAaNgRX40Y

[yinzerniner]

The SRAM ribbing was on the back of the Mollema tirade caught live in the Giro a few days ago.. It's not soapboxing - it's having a chuckle at the publicly-aired misfortunes of sram/trek lately in the pro ranks. If Campy systems were publicly failing left right and center, we'd jawbone about that.

Looks like a heckuva race was had though, and major props to all who completed it!

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True true, although I've never seen people gang up Shimano mechanicals nearly as much even though they fail at similarly unfortunate times. Maybe it's bias, maybe it's just personal preference, but there's been at least as many high-profile failures across the aisle.

From the excellent Lost and Found writeup at CX Mag:
Van den Ham, riding a new Allied Able bike with Shimano a Di2 drivetrain that he built less than 48 hours ago, suddenly had no shifting. There wasn’t any swearing, cursing or banging. Van den Ham made the only shift he could—a mental shift into singlespeed mode.

And with these gravel rides it seems like that's the ethos of the riders - get through it any way you can. Stuff (and YOU) will fail, just try to get around it and get to the finish.

Love this writeup. No blaming of equipment for how the race turned out, just two guys trying to gut through and one making a super-ballsy decision which paid off in the end.
https://www.velonews.com/2019/06/news/commentary-a-perfect-battle-at-dirty-kanza-200_494465

[R3awak3n]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MJFHWd3XcY

nice video from EF on DK200

[AngryScientist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MJFHWd3XcY

nice video from EF on DK200

that was an awesome and entertaining video.

i love Lachlan Morton when he describes dropping his snickers bar. i know that exact feeling in the middle of a brutal day. too funny.

[R3awak3n]

that was an awesome and entertaining video.

i love Lachlan Morton when he describes dropping his snickers bar. i know that exact feeling in the middle of a brutal day. too funny.

last D2R2 I forgot my bottle of water at the stop. I was so toast I did not even realize how bad that was.