Photos of Women on the Serotta Forum-A Thought

[Sandy]

We have some participation by female members on the forum, but we certainly could use more. There have been some photos of nude and scantily dressed women on the forum, more so as time has passed. Some obviously from those who are not genuine participants. It seems to me that female cyclists might find a lot of the photos of females that appear here to be demeaning and not welcome. Perhaps these photos are an obstacle to increased female participation on this forum.

I would think that most male participants would not want nude or scantily dressed male photos on the forum, so why should female viewers and members have to see such of females?

I am sure that some of you will say just lighten up and it is just in fun, but I really wonder if that is so for the women who frequent here.

Perhaps we should enjoy the aforementioned pictures someplace else, and not on the forum.


Sandy

[PBWrench]

Sandy -- I see your point and agree. But I have no problem posting this picture of myself prior to this morning's ride. Damn, Assos runs small.

[manet]

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nice mass

[Sandy]

Sandy -- I see your point and agree. But I have no problem posting this picture of myself prior to this morning's ride.

I wondered where my picture went. :rolleyes:



Sandy

[Sandy]

nice mass

Can you imagine accelerating that mass up a hill?



Sandy

[Kevan]

All you had to do was ask. I've thrown a dozen glossy 8x10's in an envelope and dropped it at the post office for you.


I'm discreet, it's in plain manila.

Keep up the fight big guy!
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Seriously, I thing the ladies here are super, putting up with us. Thanks ladies, having you here is as if they had applied some fresh paint to the place, thrown in some pillows and vases of flowers. The place is all the brighter having you here.


Sandy, you can thank me later.

[Kevin]

I would think that most male participants would not want nude or scantily dressed male photos on the forum,
Sandy

The forum has still not recovered from your naked photos. :beer:

Kevin

[CNY rider]

I thought we went over this: If you're going to go out wearing short skirts, you MUST remember to wear underwear. It's impolite not to. Otherwise people will keep posting those embarassing shots of you. :p

[neverraced]

We agree.

[Ginger]

Sandy,
Thank you for your very considerate post.

Mary Ann

[catulle]

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[djg]

Well, I cannot speak for the women here ... because I'm just a guy and the women haven't actually hired me as their spokesmodel. Still, I think that Sandy makes a good point. This shouldn't have to be a big deal, and I don't want to tout any FCC-like censorship standards, but maybe a little consideration and a bit of discretion might go a long way. NOt to hijack Sandy's more noble concern, but frankly, stuff that even I, as a boorish male trog with his own office, regret opening at work, isn't as rare as I'd like it to be. Sometimes just a bit of a heads-up would be appreciated.

[Marco]

can you give us some insight regarding your new 3 lb fully builtup ride made from that super material sourced deep in Siberia and how it has helped you attack on the hills. You're at fightin' weight my friend.....

[BumbleBeeDave]

. . . If it's something you would be embarrassed to have pop up on the screen at work if you were reading it, then you shouldn't be inflicting it on others.

Of course, this in no way applies to bike porn. ;)

BBD

[rwsaunders]

Clean thoughts only on this forum, please.

[gasman]

Good point Sandy-I agree much as I appreciate the female form we shouldn't be posting anything but "G" rated photos here.


Like gee that's a great looking bike !!!

[Kevin]

I don't think that "true" forum members are the problem. The photos at issue seem to be posted by first time posters with links to spam. I wonder if Serotta can limit the attachment rights of new forum members until they reach a certain number of posts? Perhaps 10.

Kevin

[Tom]

Thank you, Sandy. I think you're right, a little consideration of others is a good thing.

But that sumo guy. Oof. I nearly choked on the bite of bagel I was eating when that appeared.

[davids]

Well, I cannot speak for the women here ... because I'm just a guy and the women haven't actually hired me as their spokesmodel. Still, I think that Sandy makes a good point. This shouldn't have to be a big deal, and I don't want to tout any FCC-like censorship standards, but maybe a little consideration and a bit of discretion might go a long way. NOt to hijack Sandy's more noble concern, but frankly, stuff that even I, as a boorish male trog with his own office, regret opening at work, isn't as rare as I'd like it to be. Sometimes just a bit of a heads-up would be appreciated.
yep.

[OldDog]

Kevin is right, it is not the "regulars" who post such pics. As long as we are discussing keeping this forum from sliding into the gutter, consider the various ways the spelling of vularities is done. What's the difference between masking the spelling of words to get past the filters or just saying it. The intetpritation of the word is clear, and out of line for this place.

[Ginger]

Kevin is right, it is not the "regulars" who post such pics.

No. He isn't correct. It is certainly regulars who post such pictures on a fairly regular basis.

I think it's silly that several regulars talked to about such pics and others are allowed to continue to post that sort of photo on a regular basis. I appreciate these forum member's contributions. Otherwise I'd have an ignore list and they would be on it.

[toaster]

We're all adults here with the exception of the immaturity practiced by the few who register once and their first post is porn or spam links.

The Serotta Discussion Board has more men participating than women, I don't even have to look, and as a group we are generally well behaved.

I'd like to see if any of the women here have a problem with the community here or if the issue is only regarding the unauthorized use of the boards by the vandals as described in my first paragraph.

[a100mark]

Sandy,
Thank you for being inclusive. Although I'm not a big "poster" to the board, I spend many hours being entertained and educated. As a female rider, I am not usually offended by the pictures posted.

Thanks-
Andrea

[Ginger]

You have to go a long way to "offend" me personally, I just feel sorry for those who feel the need to try. That said, I'm generally not offended by the photos posted.

But I'm annoyed that I can't open threads at work (even at lunch) on this forum that have photos attached because of what *might* be in a thread about oh...just about anything. There are no double standards at here work. Those photos (of either sex) can be objectionable to many people in my office for a variety of reasons, so they're just forbidden across the board.

[bcm119]

Yeah, I agree, I find it a little annoying. Not offensive, but annoying. I have my own office but you never know who's going to poke their head in and see a picture on my screen of some 'hot babe' on a motorcycle. I could do without the tasteless pictures.

[csm]

isn't it a bit much to expect others outside your organizations to abide by the same rules you have to?
I've never posted or linked to any "objectional" photos, and generally stay off the forum during work hours, but...
if your company might have an issue with something someone posted or linked to, maybe you ought to stay off the site until you can view w/o any threat of workplace issues.

[mosca]

I can't help but imagine that those co-workers we may have who look over our shoulders and see us constantly ogling bicycle photos must be thinking to themselves "why doesn't that guy/girl just look at porn like a normal person?"

[William]

I can't help but imagine that those co-workers we may have who look over our shoulders and see us constantly ogling bicycle photos must be thinking to themselves "why doesn't that guy/girl just look at porn like a normal person?"

+1 atmo.



William ;)

[catulle]

.
Bob Dylan - I Shall Be Free Lyrics

Well, I took me a woman late last night
I's three-fourths drunk she looked all right
'Til she started peelin' off her onion gook
She took off her wig, said, "How do I look" ?
I's high flyin', bare naked ...Out the window.

Well, sometimes I might get drunk
Walk like a duck and smell like a skunk
Don't hurt me none, don't hurt my pride
'Cause I got my little lady right by my side
(She's a tryin' a hide pretendin'
She don't know me).

I's out there paintin' on the old wood shed
When a can a black paint it fell on my head
I went down to scrub and rub
But I had to sit in back of the tub
(Cost a quarter
Half price).

Well, my telephone rang it would not stop
It's President Kennedy callin' me up
He said, "My friend, Bob, what do we need to make the country grow" ?
I said, "My friend, John, "Brigitte Bardot,
Anita Ekberg
Sophia Loren"
Country'll grow.

Well, I got a woman five feet short
She yells and hollers and squeals and snorts
She tickles my nose pats me on the head
Blows me over and kicks me out of bed
(She's a man eater
Meat grinder
Bad looser).

Oh, there ain't no use in me workin' alla time
I got a woman who works herself blind
Works up to her britches, up to her neck
Write me letters and sends me checks
(She's a humdinger
Folk singer).

Late one day in the middle of the week
Eyes were closed I was half asleep
I chased me a woman up the hill
Right in the middle of an air drill
(I jumped a fallout shelter
I jumped the string bean
I jumped the TV dinner
I jumped the shot gun).

Now, the man on the stand he wants my vote
He's a-runnin' for office on the ballot note
He's out there preachin' in front of the steeple
Tellin' me he loves all kinds-a people
(He's eatin' bagels
He's eatin' pizza
He's eatin' chitlins).

Oh, set me down on a television floor
I'll flip the channel to number four
Out of the shower comes a football man
With a bottle of oil in his hand
(Greasy kid stuff
What I want to know, Mr. Football Man, is
What do you do about Willy Mays
Martin Luther King
Olatunji).

Well, the funniest woman I ever seen
Was the great-granddaughter of Mr. Clean
She takes about fifteen baths a day
Wants me to grow a moustache on my face
(She's insane).

Well, ask me why I'm drunk alla time
It levels my head and eases my mind
I just walk along and stroll and sing
I see better days and I do better things
(I catch dinosaurs
I make love to Elizabeth Taylor ...
Catch hell from Richard Burton !).

[bcm119]

isn't it a bit much to expect others outside your organizations to abide by the same rules you have to?

Its not company rules, its just common sense... pictures of girls in bikinis riding motocycles are just stupid. If such a picture popped up on my screen at work, at a coffee shop, airport, etc., I'd feel like a jackass. The Forum shouldn't be something you have to view in private, thats all I'm saying.

[sc53]

Sandy, when I read the title of your thread I seriously thought you were now soliciting photos of women on the forum! Wouldn't put it past you.....
I agree with Ginger and others that the photos of Basso's sister, Lindsay Lohan, Britney, Paris, et al. contribute nothing to the forum. Naked pictures of Sandy, on the other hand...

[William]

I agree with Ginger and others that the photos of Basso's sister, Lindsay Lohan, Britney, Paris, et al. contribute nothing to the forum. Naked pictures of Sandy, on the other hand...

And yet a thread about "Brittany romping in the buff" already has almost 400 hits. Where are people's minds? :no:

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=23810



William ;)

[Sandy]

Sandy, when I read the title of your thread I seriously thought you were now soliciting photos of women on the forum! Wouldn't put it past you.....
I agree with Ginger and others that the photos of Basso's sister, Lindsay Lohan, Britney, Paris, et al. contribute nothing to the forum. Naked pictures of Sandy, on the other hand...

Those pictures would probably close the forum forever. :rolleyes:

Let's ride sometime soon if it warms up. I haven't ridden for well over a week.


Sandy

[Tom]

And yet a thread about "Brittany romping in the buff" already has almost 400 hits. Where are people's minds? :no:

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=23810



William ;)

Now I'm unemployed.

I hear you, though, William. I give it the old "Would I do that in Ben Serotta's living room?" test.

[catulle]

Oh well, I still remember the summer I spent three weeks in Ibiza with a girl in a bikini on the back of my motorcycle. I guess that was then, and this is now. I wonder what Martin Luther would have to say... :eek:

[mosca]

pictures of girls in bikinis riding motocycles are just stupid.
Nooooo, you can't mean that!
If such a picture popped up on my screen at work, at a coffee shop, airport, etc., I'd feel like a jackass.
Why, are you afraid a Puritan might be looking over your shoulder?

Honestly, I hadn't give those images a second thought until this thread - maybe that's why people always seem to think I'm a jackass...

[Kevan]

annoy the hell out of me (I suppose they'd be happy to read about that, if they were indeed worried about my soul's possesion.), but appreciating that this sandbox is to be shared with everyone, boys and girls alike, I think we can all play PC. Golly-jee-willickers, we’re talking bicycles here and sex has little correlation with that topic, cars maybe do (they have backseats, don't argue a tandem's), but not bicycles. Bicycles and nakedness do unflattering things to the human form, let's not go there. Aside from Sandy, myself, and a couple of you other folks I’ve met, the human form, at its best, and off a bicycle, is a joy to look at. Why Americans freak out about body parts, unless they somehow are involved in a violent act, is beyond this one standout.

Honestly, I don’t mind us all being a little naughty from time to time, just within reason (I think reason is measured in metric, a decidedly un-American approach.). I agree, a heads-up call in the posting banner would be a good idea for those office viewers such as myself, doing our scroll amidst our office folk.

[Fat Robert]

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[Ginger]

...Why Americans freak out about body parts, unless they somehow are involved in a violent act, is beyond this one standout.


Zero tolerance here came down when hardcore porn screen savers were common.

You try talking to a kid about a technical topic when he's been surfing that stuff. My experience is that his brain isn't on the technical subject at hand and he'll have a crappy attitude towards the female in front of him.

As a female in the workplace. Zero tolerance is fine with me even if that means I can't read the forums at lunch.

[bcm119]

Nooooo, you can't mean that!

Why, are you afraid a Puritan might be looking over your shoulder?

Honestly, I hadn't give those images a second thought until this thread - maybe that's why people always seem to think I'm a jackass...
I give up buddy, you win. Its amazing how internet communication can be so misunderstood, but its no ones fault but my own. I'm off for a ride!

[mosca]

I give up buddy, you win. Its amazing how internet communication can be so misunderstood, but its no ones fault but my own. I'm off for a ride!
Don't mind me, I'm just being a pest - have a good ride!

[catulle]

Don't mind me, I'm just being a pest - have a good ride!
.

[manet]

?

she has lovely, even swell, neck.

[mosca]

Mooo, baby! But can a cow really love a jackass?

[catulle]

Mooo, baby! But can a cow really love a jackass?


Of course, my horse...

[jckid]

Sandy, when I read the title of your thread I seriously thought you were now soliciting photos of women on the forum!

That's what I thought too!

Anyway, I just ignore the threads and posts that have questionable content and pictures attached. Overall, I think this is a great forum, and the information I get from it is great. I can find just about anything I need to know (cycling-related--sometimes even non-cycling related) on this forum. For the most part, I have found that the forum is made up of great people!

[RABikes2]

You have to go a long way to "offend" me personally, I just feel sorry for those who feel the need to try. That said, I'm generally not offended by the photos posted.
Thank you Sandy for being thoughtful. I'm like Mary Ann, you have to go a long way to "offend" me. I'm a Navy veteran...been there, done that, and got the T-shirt. I had to learn over 30 years ago not to let guys get my goat (or to see that it bothered me) if they tried to "offend" me, it would have made matters worse. Best way to handle these situations is to ignore them. When there's no response, there's no "audience." Basically, I ignore threads that are suspicious and I don't open most websites/photos that are posted unless I'm pretty sure where or what they are leading to.

I also understand, and respect, the concerns of members who are in work places reading the forum. Totally uncool to have inappropriate photos flashing onto the screen unexpectedly.
I give it the old "Would I do that in Ben Serotta's living room?" test.
I agree Tom.
Ritaann

[keno]

I couldn't care less. I could not disagree more with your sentiments, Sandy. As destructive as the the idea and influence of PC may be, any furtherance of it is more so in my mind. BTW, this may make you a bad person, Sandy; hopefully, I have already achieved that status.

keno

[Tom]

I could care less. I could not disagree more with your sentiments, Sandy. As destructive as the the idea and influence of PC may be, any furtherance of it is more so in my mind. BTW, this may make you a bad person, Sandy; hopefully, I have already achieved that status.

keno

I sure hope you're joking. It's not about political correctness. It's about having some honor, dignity and respect for other people. It doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to understand that.

See what I mean?

[manet]

I could care less. I could not disagree more with your sentiments, Sandy. As destructive as the the idea and influence of PC may be, any furtherance of it is more so in my mind. BTW, this may make you a bad person, Sandy; hopefully, I have already achieved that status.

keno

that gave me warm fuzzies.

though i think you meant to say, "I couldn't care less." no?

[dbrk]

. . . If it's something you would be embarrassed to have pop up on the screen at work if you were reading it, then you shouldn't be inflicting it on others.
BBD

Well, I can't think of anything that would cause me to be embarrassed at work---nope, not even _that_ stuff, 'cause the SPAM and other filters at the University are utterly hopeless. I get HUNDREDS of nasty things everyday and it's very disappointing.

So my standard at home is: what if my 14 and 17 year old daughters came on it. How would they feel?

I generally think our American culture is more puritanical about bodies than our less religious or pious European friends...but such glib over generalizations are almost never actually right. I find myself unwilling to jump on the "conservative" view that it's-all-gone-to-moral-seed views of our contemporary society. I'm also happy not to insult or offend deliberately our Forum friends and Sandy has a point, of course.

dbrk

[keno]

Yes, Manet, "n't" was intended and I'll change my post accordingly. I owe you a small goat for that.

Tom, I could not be more serious. First, while I understand the notion of "respect for others" I cannot say that I understand the relation of "honor and dignity" to this thread. That aside, I heartily disagree with your comment that "any intelligent person can understand that". I think that someone would have to be endowned with a quality unknown to mankind to understand that. At a minimum, our society presents with at least a double standard when it comes to what is the standard by which women expect to be respected. I am pleased to debate this subject with you or anyone, but to think that it is obvious as to what is a reasonable course of action in this regard is beyond the pale. If one of the female members of his forum were to indicate that something is offensive, that I can respect, but to create an invisible standard by which we are to comport ourselves transcends the notion of intelligence.

For my own part, I have never posted such a photo nor expect that I will. But the conduct of others is something I will leave to them and the forum administrators.

keno

[gt6267a]

At a minimum, our society presents with at least a double standard when it comes to what is the standard by which women expect to be respected.

in reading your post, i found myself wanting to know the double standard you are referring to but it is not there. please define it.

[Ginger]

If anyone noticed. In some form, this topic comes up about once a year. Maybe twice. It usually is brought up by a male, and sooner or later there's usually a "I can't open the forum at work anymore." theme, a "what would ben think" theme (Ben never struck me as puritanical, professional yes, puritanical, no.), a "my work place is fine with it, so deal" theme, a "People do what they want theme", and a "how would you feel if it were your daughter" type theme...


In other words. Evidently, it's that time of year. And evidently there are guys who are uncomfortable having to wade through the photos to read regular posts about bike stuff. Some of the girls are too, but the regulars deal.

And we won't know how many women the photos turn off because...well...they're already gone.

I'm pretty happy with the upswing in female participation in the forum and I've been impressed with the tolerance as well.

[Sandy]

I couldn't care less. I could not disagree more with your sentiments, Sandy. As destructive as the the idea and influence of PC may be, any furtherance of it is more so in my mind. BTW, this may make you a bad person, Sandy; hopefully, I have already achieved that status.

keno

I certainly do not know the totality of your thoughts relative to your comments, and perhaps I don't even fully understand what you say here.

Poltical correctness has absolutely nothing to do with my initial post. I actually feel that political correctness is a major hindrance to facing some very serious problems that relate to the actual survival (literally) of our country, but that is an entirely different issue. We have female viewers and members on the forum and some may find certain photos of women offensive and/or demeaning. There are appropriate places for those on some websites, but perhaps the Serotta Forum is not the place for such. I certainly enjoy some of those photos, but that doesn't mean that they belong on a bicycle forum, such as our forum. It is just a question of respect for women and their feelings. What does that possibly have to do with political correctness??


Sandy

[mosca]

I feel that keno makes a good point about an "invisible standard" here, so if anyone wants to provide a link to any forum content that they found inappropriate, I'll be more than happy to study it in great detail for my own future reference.

:D

[Sandy]

I feel that keno makes a good point about an "invisible standard" here, so if anyone wants to provide a link to any forum content that they found inappropriate, I'll be more than happy to study it in great detail for my own future reference.

:D

Too much of a job for just one person. May I be part of the team?? :D :D


Sandy

[csm]

thank goodness ( I would say "thank God" but that would fly in the face of political correctness too) that the women of the board have all these strong, virile men to protect them from seeing images of scantily clad girls and bikes.

[RPS]

Is the debate about decorum or morality?

[csm]

or misguided notions of chivalry?

[William]

thank goodness ( I would say "thank God" but that would fly in the face of political correctness too) that the women of the board have all these strong, virile men to protect them from seeing images of scantily clad girls and bikes.

Just send me any questionable content and I will thoroughly scan and study the "suspect" images. I will then conviene a bi-partisan commission made up of religious zealots, porn producers and custom frame builders. Through much debate, deliberation, and fisticuffs, we will be able to pass middle of the road images that will appeal to all parties involved.



William

PS: No images will be returned unless accompanied by a self addresses stamped envelope and $49.95 for postage and handling.

All inquiries should be addressed to: The PornZelot Builder Commission on Public Forum Decency.

[William]

http://www.seatcarclub.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/more3/chair.gif

http://www.dvcreators.net/discuss/images/smilies/fighting72.gif

http://gc.advancedmn.com/images/content/forums/stfu2.gif

http://www.swacpage.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/greenchainsaw.gif

http://www.acura-legend.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/commie_bash.gif

http://www.gulfgirls.net/images/smilies/shotgun.gif

http://www.automags.org/forums/images/smilies/cussing.gif


;) :D

[Ahneida Ride]

Just send me any questionable content and I will thoroughly scan and study the "suspect" images. I will then conviene a bi-partisan commission made up of religious zealots, porn producers and custom frame builders. Through much debate, deliberation, and fisticuffs, we will be able to pass middle of the road images that will appeal to all parties involved.



William

PS: No images will be returned unless accompanied by a self addresses stamped envelope and $49.95 for postage and handling.

All inquiries should be addressed to: The PornZelot Builder Commission on Public Forum Decency.


Can I be the Religious Zealot ? :banana:

I'll nix the Fiticuffs. I know your capabilities. :D

[keno]

gt6267a said "in reading your post, i found myself wanting to know the double standard you are referring to but it is not there. please define it."

In short, the taking of advantage in a situation by some women, on one hand, of their status as members of the "weaker sex" and the attendant unwritten rules, and to take advantage of their rights to "equality" in an other situation. To me it speaks of equal +.

Sandy said "[i]t is just a question of respect for women and their feelings. What does that possibly have to do with political correctness??"

In short, everything. To be PC is to curb some expression or other simply because of the fear that to express might hurt someone's feelings. The notion of respect for women as a group is a generality that, particularly since the rise of feminism in our culture, has little meaning. Now, having said that, to have respect for a specific woman has meaning, but it is based on some level of experience. The metes and bounds of respect in a particular situation will vary. My walking around consciousness of what women want as a group is to be treated as equals. If I am told by a woman that she expects to be treated as of the "weaker sex" and not agreeable to an atmosphere of behavior, words, pictures, gestures, etc. (outside the workplace, of course, and as well as not while viewing the internet on her boss's time), I want to understand how that relates to many situations in which I may be affectred.

I do not think that it is a man's role to second guess how a woman wants to be treated without being told. It is a woman's role to express that, and each man can decide how he will react to her view.

keno

[RPS]

I don’t see much of a direct connection between the original implied request and morality, religion, or political correctness. To me the request was mainly about appropriateness.

There are too many subjects that practically everyone would find tasteless, crude, and/or disturbing regardless of their moral, religious, or political views to suggest that there has to be a connection. I could mention a few as examples, but it would be in bad taste.

[Sandy]

I don’t see much of a direct connection between the original implied request and morality, religion, or political correctness. To me the request was mainly about appropriateness.

There are too many subjects that practically everyone would find tasteless, crude, and/or disturbing regardless of their moral, religious, or political views to suggest that there has to be a connection. I could mention a few as examples, but it would be in bad taste.

Agreed. Appropriateness is the key.


Sandy

[keno]

could this be helpful to those of us who might otherwise be inappropriate, whatever that means?

http://www.queendom.com/tests/minitests/fx/sex_approp.html

keno

[dirtdigger88]

I scored a 20-

thats good right :hello:

Jason

[csm]

I got a 60! that's like a D isn't it?

[Sandy]

My score was 75. Just about the same as my IQ.


Smart Sandy

[cadence231]

85. I think the score wuz bcuz I said I would sleep with someone for a house. I mean it could be just once right? It would have to be a girl too. With protection and a sheet with a hole in it and I would be able to hold my breath if I had to.

[Julia Hampsten]

okay I was holding out on this thread, but what the heck.

a good friend recently sent an email to us here at the towers, embellished with 23 photographs of bucknaked (though artfully body-painted) men and women riding their bikes this summer in our local Fremont Solstice Parade. it was highly entertaining, but I guess my 70 score on that test, and plain common sense, is j-u-u-st high enough to prevent me from sharing them with you. . .

sorry.

julia

:)

[MarleyMon]

... I wonder if Serotta can limit the attachment rights of new forum members until they reach a certain number of posts? Perhaps 10.

Kevin


I'm totally cool with this.

[Louis]

I guess my 70 score on that test

I too got a 70 - that must mean we're really compatible. Need a new dream house? :D

[72gmc]

Fremont Solstice Parade

My oldest (then 6) and I were stuck in the crowd this year when all of the naked cyclists "joined" the parade. Imagine a 5-minute procession of buck or nearly-buck people rolling by while your kid sits on your shoulders, asking questions.

At least she's developing a realistic perspective on the human body--Barbie was definitely not in attendance.

[gt6267a]

apparently i am a serious prude with my score of 85.

[swoop]

what's so wrong about being offended? g*d forbid someone has to deal with their own discomfort.


people can't be this lame, can they?

atmo.

[Tailwinds]

I scored an 80. I must be a serious prude, too.

Scoring a 20, wow, really.

Oh, and Sandy, thanks for the thoughtfulness. I know your intentions are good. For the record, though, I'm not offended by nudity (even though I am a prude). ;)

[bcm119]

what's so wrong about being offended? g*d forbid someone has to deal with their own discomfort.


people can't be this lame, can they?

atmo.
Good point. I never understood this fad of being "offended" by everything. Unless something is directed at you, how can you be offended? You're right- the term is just a cover-up for discomfort, adopted by the PC movement along with the term "innappropriate", another cover-up. Its all very silly and a little sickening. Of course, if the few women that do frequent this forum express dislike of the occasional T/A picture, I would hope we could all respect that instead of telling them why they shouldn't care... its a big enough sausage festival around here as it is. Plus, I think some of the pictures are annoying, but thats a moot point.

[Ginger]

G Of course, if the few women that do frequent this forum express dislike of the occasional T/A picture, I would hope we could all respect that instead of telling them why they shouldn't care...

Thanks bcm.

Swoop. I work with people who are that offended. And corporations can be. Zero tolerance is zero tolerance.
Nope, I don't spend much time on the forums during the day anymore. Don't much need to loose my job over girly pics on a bicycle forum.

That test is hilarious. Dirt, you're not alone. I think they got me with the "have you ever" type questions. Ever is a long time. Although they don't seem to take into account a person's ability to not be offended, yet still tell someone that they're incorrect in their assumptions.
I am inappropriate.
30

[keno]

... its a big enough sausage festival around here as it is...

I must have missed those pics.

keno

[Fat Robert]

80

[RABikes2]

A score of 75 makes me "sexually appropriate". Huh?
Ginger and Dirt must be having more fun. :D (Dirt, what have you been up to Darlin'?!?! :p )
RA

[Ray]

I scored an 85 and knew immediately which questions I got "wrong". And I think they're full of caca. On the butt-grabbing dance floor question, you score higher for throwing your drink in the offender's face than laughing it off and moving to the other side of the room. Sorry, I think laughing it off is the right response, at least the first time it happens. And if a fine looking woman co-worker started rubbing my shoulders and coming on to me, I would find it inappropriate and tell her so, but I wouldn't be "offended" (which the test prefers) - I'd be flattered but still, hopefully, reject the advance.

Funny, though. After the fact I plugged in a bunch of different ages under each sex and the score didn't change. I guess an 85 is an 85 regardless. And I totally agree with Ginger about the 'did you EVER' part. I just changed that to 'since you've been an adult...' in answering the questions - I did one or two things in my youth that I'm not proud of and would never do now. (edit - I'm a prude. I just took it again taking the 'have you ever' part literally and I still scored a 70, which is way too high for a guy of my age. I feel so, so, so CLEAN.)

Also, I think this all has less to do with political correctness than consideration. And while I don't think consideration should be mandatory in our society, it should be encouraged on our forum, where most of us are men. If the population here was closer to 50-50, I think you'd see a lot fewer pictures of Scarlett's lips (and maybe a few more of Mick Jagger's?).

-Ray

[BillyBear]

...after i cheated to improve my original 25....accepting that you are a pig is the first step in your recovery towards becoming an androgonous metrosexual, right? :banana: :banana: :banana:

[Karin Kirk]

I think they got me with the "have you ever" type questions.

Oh no Ginger - was it... your cousin...?

[Ginger]

No Karin...all of my cousins are straight girls. Couldn't even be a second cousin.

Hey, if you're dancing with someone you don't know and they grab you, it's usually for shock value. Grab them back and they're on the other side of the room before ya know it. :)
And I'm with Ray...seems like this is aimed at the 15-20 crowd. But hey, if it's a good shoulder massage (and that's all they're rubbing with) they can tell me I'm their type all day long as long as long as they get ...yea...left shoulder...over...yeah...there..."Oh, you really think so? You don't even hit in the same ballpark as my type but thanks for the shoulder rub." It reminds me of something a friend told me: Never fight with a pig, you get muddy and the pig enjoys it.

And I'm not offended if a boss tells me I'm attractive. Especially if they're dumb enough to do that in email. Ignore or rebuff and move on (and save hard copies of those emails). But they aren't going to get anywhere. On the other hand I keep my opinions of my coworkers to myself. Totally.

The test seems to assume that you have low moral character to go along with your not-offended-at-other-people's-nature nature. I could get my score up to 40...but the whole house thing is hilarious.

[catulle]

Oooops... Wrong thread... :eek:

[Ginger]

Oooops... Wrong thread... :eek:
I'll be kind...

Perhaps you're looking for Sandy's *other* naked pictures request thread...

[catulle]

I'll be kind...

Perhaps you're looking for Sandy's *other* naked pictures request thread...


Phewww... Thank you...!

(Test score: 30)