WTT Titanium track frames

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Recently traded for this thinking it was a 58. It's actually a 54 according to serial (measures more like 55-56 square). So, still up for trade, just with this one pictured now.

https://i.imgur.com/L6hMwQo.png

Also acquired this, 51cm seat, 54cm top, c-c.

https://i.imgur.com/pjc3bdW.png

And this, 56cm square Holland. Sadly has a small repair on the drive side chain stay, hidden by the cranks.

I am looking for interesting bikes/frames of the 58cm+ category, bigger is better. Useful but not required properties:

1. Titanium
2. Seven or other well regarded manufacturers (GT dream)
3. Track/horizontal dropouts
4. Triple triangle (not interested in aluminum GTB/pulses)

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[cnighbor1]

Would you consider just listing for sale

[pdonk]

For new I'd suggest altruiste.

He does a steel triple triangle. His prices are competitive especially considering the exchange rate. At 60 you may need to go custom though.

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For new I'd suggest altruiste.

He does a steel triple triangle. His prices are competitive especially considering the exchange rate. At 60 you may need to go custom though.

Their website is currently overrun by aggressive popups.

Are they the one that does wishbone triple tri?

[smead]

If that were 1-2 cm longer I'd be in the hunt. All too often nice fixed gear framesets are lacking bottle cage mounts and a drilled fork, this one's got all the right stuff to make a great fixed gear for the road.

[pdonk]

Their website is currently overrun by aggressive popups.

Are they the one that does wishbone triple tri?

Yes. See pics in a thread I started recently.

I've never had popup issues on his site v

[chiasticon]

are you willing to sell? if so, at what price?

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Yes. See pics in a thread I started recently.

I've never had popup issues on his site v

https://altruistebikes.com/ right now hits nasty redirects even thru ublock origin. It's fully page jacking on mobile.

I don't know why but I just don't like their wishbone design, namely the way the single pipe goes through the seattube.

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are you willing to sell? if so, at what price?

I'll consider offers but it took a lot of searching to get my hands on this.

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The long search continues.

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Still going

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[hokoman]

Nice bike - might be easier to sell considering finding someone who happens to have a ~60cm bike for trade probably isn't looking for a ~50cm fixie, but this forum always surprises me.

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Nice bike - might be easier to sell considering finding someone who happens to have a ~60cm bike for trade probably isn't looking for a ~50cm fixie, but this forum always surprises me.

The issue is just the sheer rarity of track drop ti, especially from nice brands. Even if I end up buying a 60cm instead of trading for one I'd still keep this for friends/family.

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[r_mutt]

I'm surprised that no one has asked the obvious - why does someone who needs a 60cm frame have a 51?

[temeyone]

Any interest in a steel Rodriguez track frameset of the requested size? 1" threaded, so I don't know if that's a deal-breaker, but it's a sweet frameset

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Any interest in a steel Rodriguez track frameset of the requested size? 1" threaded, so I don't know if that's a deal-breaker, but it's a sweet frameset

Sorry, trying to stay ti.

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Been a while since I bumped this

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Been a while since I bumped this

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Forever searching

[citycyclist247]

Is 49 cm effective seattube length?

[m_sasso]

Not a track bike, track bikes do not have brakes, it is against the rules for any track use and would not be allowed on any track. It is a single speed street bike!

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Long time between bumps due to serving my jail sentence for misrepresenting a single speed bike

[charliedid]

Long time between bumps due to serving my jail sentence for misrepresenting a single speed bike



Deserves a LOL bump


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[tuscanyswe]

Long time between bumps due to serving my jail sentence for misrepresenting a single speed bike

Lucky for you there is no double jeopardy eh? :)

Tell me is the frame made for 130mm rear hubs or 120mm?

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Lucky for you there is no double jeopardy eh? :)

Tell me is the frame made for 130mm rear hubs or 120mm?

120mm iirc can double check

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1001 posts!

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Why does no one make more titanium track frames :(

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Still goin'

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So I went and made a trade today.

The guy said his frame was a 58 and I idiotically did not double check it myself. 58 would've been juuuuust big enough.

The serial indicates 54, I think? It measures approx 55-56 square depending where you measure between. So not quite big enough to build for myself. Back to the trading board.

Pros:

* Better geo than my last one, even if not big enough still. 55ish is more popular than 49, and it's square.

* No weird extended headtube

* No sloping top tube

* Black instead of yellow decals


Neutral:

* My old one had a sticker that said custom built. New one is just a stock Alaris with track drops. However, I'm pretty sure my old one was more a Cafe Racer than proper track. Not sure what differentiates road geo from track geo for this Alaris.

* Both were straight gauge ti

* Both had the metal screw on headbadge - I hate when this isn't present


Cons:

* I had to remove my chris king to do this and I hate reinstalling headsets

* I had a chris king sticker on my old one

* No rear brake mount - though they don't seem to have been built stock with them

* Decals are in slightly worse shape, mostly because my old one was 10/10 and this is 8/10

* No bottle cage mounts - though they don't seem to have been built stock with them

* I had to travel for 7 hours (round trip) to get this done.

[citycyclist247]

So do you still have it?

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So do you still have it?

I now have the one pictured. I no longer have the previous one pictured.

[Makuman]

Please allow me a thought. You want to trade someone for a much larger frame size for your smaller frame size. Seams like a pretty slim chance someone would be stuck with a 60cm frame and looking for a 54cm frame. Let alone a ti track frame. I would consider selling and looking for a frameset that will fit you better. I’m not trying to be an a-hole, just trying to help you get what you want. My rant please someone prove me wrong

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Please allow me a thought. You want to trade someone for a much larger frame size for your smaller frame size. Seams like a pretty slim chance someone would be stuck with a 60cm frame and looking for a 54cm frame. Let alone a ti track frame. I would consider selling and looking for a frameset that will fit you better. I’m not trying to be an a-hole, just trying to help you get what you want. My rant please someone prove me wrong

It's not like having this means I can't pay cash for a frame if I choose to. Just gives me more options.

But I've already missed a 60cm in the past for not having trade fodder, and if this most recent one didn't mis measure his own stuff I'd have been successful. So trades have proven pretty powerful so far.

[smead]

If that were 1-2 cm longer I'd be in the hunt. All too often nice fixed gear framesets are lacking bottle cage mounts and a drilled fork, this one's got all the right stuff to make a great fixed gear for the road.

Doh! Your 2nd frame in this thread would indeed fit me, but unlike the first no cage mounts :crap:

I will have to agree with those that have suggested you just put a price on this, trying to trade something so unique for an equally unique want seems like a needle in a haystack.

[robt57]

Why does no one make more titanium track frames :(

Costs too much to make it stiff enough ??

[happycampyer]

Costs too much to make it stiff enough ??
A stiff ti bike doesn’t need to cost more than a less stiff one—the builder just uses larger diameter tubes. I think it comes down to practicality—if one wants stiffness and isn’t super concerned about weight, steel makes more sense, and if one wants stiffness and is concerned about weight, aluminum (or stock carbon, at least) are more economical than ti.

[robt57]

A stiff ti bike doesn’t need to cost more than a less stiff one—the builder just uses larger diameter tubes. I think it comes down to practicality—if one wants stiffness and isn’t super concerned about weight, steel makes more sense, and if one wants stiffness and is concerned about weight, aluminum (or stock carbon, at least) are more economical than ti.


Can't agree if talking Ti, and I was and we are.

As I understand it, Ti more likely to require costly cold working. Thus my comment about it costs too much. And when tubes get bigger, more creative work to make it work I guess. On a track frame, at least tire clearance if the ti tubes get super fat is less problematic as they use shinnies in theory?

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Still looking. I wonder if a 62cm+ one is floating out there?

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Still looking. I wonder if a 62cm+ one is floating out there?

I have all the parts, just need a fraaaaaame

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Still got this btw

[citycyclist247]

You know I’m a lover of 54 cm ti track frames…

[duff_duffy]

I had the hardest time selling mine a while back! Just bumping to say good luck!

[citycyclist247]

I had the hardest time selling mine a while back! Just bumping to say good luck!

How much did yours sell for?

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Love those hubs

[duff_duffy]

I don’t recall…sorry!

How much did yours sell for?

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Still going

[happycampyer]

The issue is just the sheer rarity of track drop ti, especially from nice brands. Even if I end up buying a 60cm instead of trading for one I'd still keep this for friends/family.

Especially like this (from what I’ve been told, Serotta only made a few 3D track dropouts in titanium):

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-5dTwtvX/0/042fa462/XL/i-5dTwtvX-XL.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-P5bnTLp/0/eaa59c46/XL/i-P5bnTLp-XL.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-zhZ7pBB/0/5237429d/X2/i-zhZ7pBB-X2.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-NBvZt3f/0/e048c318/XL/i-NBvZt3f-XL.jpg

Good luck with your search!

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Got another frame!

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