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tsarpepe
04-06-2019, 03:03 PM
A thread from today, with a forumite selling 6 sets of wheels (and probably keeping at least as many), got me thinking: how do people store all this stuff? :confused: I'm way on the lower end of hoarding; my garage has 3 bikes, 3 extra sets of wheels, and a bunch of parts and instruments, of course. But with the usual stuff that every household needs to store in that same garage, I feel that I've got almost nothing left for further expansion :help:. If you don't mind posting a picture of how you've organized the bike shop section of your storage facility, I'd be a great educational experience for me.

texbike
04-06-2019, 03:08 PM
I put together a rack system using conduit, heavy-duty shelf brackets, and Park Tools bike hooks. It works fairly well to keep most of my bikes/wheels off the floor and along a single wall.

Texbike

tsarpepe
04-06-2019, 03:12 PM
I put together a rack system using conduit, heavy/duty shelf brackets, and Park Tools bike hooks. It works fairly well to keep most of my bikes/wheels off the floor and along a single wall.

Texbike

Respect, man!

Since you're in Austin, I may come to see this shrine of yours.

tuscanyswe
04-06-2019, 03:13 PM
Umm forget about the bikes. Is that a mondial?

texbike
04-06-2019, 03:32 PM
Respect, man!

Since you're in Austin, I may come to see this shrine of yours.

Absolutely! I'm near the Arboretum if you'd like to come by and check it out. I have a complete components list for the build in another thread if you're interested.

Umm forget about the bikes. Is that a mondial?


Wow! Good eye! Yes, it is (an '88 3.2 Coupe).

Texbike

tuscanyswe
04-06-2019, 03:39 PM
Yeah well I like "odd" sports cars (if one can call a ferrari that). Thats a really cool one you got there.
How does it drive? And how much service does one need to keep something like this on the road?

martl
04-06-2019, 04:44 PM
A thread from today, with a forumite selling 6 sets of wheels (and probably keeping at least as many), got me thinking: how do people store all this stuff? :confused: I'm way on the lower end of hoarding; my garage has 3 bikes, 3 extra sets of wheels, and a bunch of parts and instruments, of course. But with the usual stuff that every household needs to store in that same garage, I feel that I've got almost nothing left for further expansion :help:. If you don't mind posting a picture of how you've organized the bike shop section of your storage facility, I'd be a great educational experience for me.

https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/img/photos/2/0/9/0/_/large/keller4.jpg?0 (https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/p/146930)

https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/img/photos/2/0/9/0/_/large/keller1.jpg?0 (https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/p/146927)

zmalwo
04-06-2019, 04:50 PM
https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/img/photos/2/0/9/0/_/large/keller4.jpg?0 (https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/p/146930)

that drain in the middle gives me severe anxiety of small parts falling on the floor and goes straight into the drain. the depression leading to it does not help at all.

texbike
04-06-2019, 04:55 PM
Here's the thread with a BUNCH of good ideas. Posts 48 52, and 56 hit specifically on the design that I mentioned.

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=204537&page=4

Yeah well I like "odd" sports cars (if one can call a ferrari that). Thats a really cool one you got there.
How does it drive? And how much service does one need to keep something like this on the road?

The car drives great and sounds incredible. It's definitely not fast (what can one expect from a 30 year old, naturally-aspirated motor that is less than 200 cubic inches in displacement?). However, the car is a ton of fun. It's responsive and direct with great brakes and nice, neutral handling.

As for servicing, parts are easy to find for the most part and the drivetrain is considered to be one of the brand's most robust and reliable (same motor/trans as in the 328). The design is simple and straightforward and everything is easy to access for service. The only significant weak spot is the electrical system which is usually the result of an over-burdened fusebox. However, there's an aftermarket fix for that. Like most old cars that have a following, just about any possible issue has been well-documented with suggested steps to remediate them. It makes ownership MUCH easier.

Texbike

dm0n3y
04-06-2019, 05:23 PM
Here's the thread with a BUNCH of good ideas. Posts 48 52, and 56 hit specifically on the design that I mentioned.

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=204537&page=4

Texbike

Wow the sliding hooks and pole system looks the best compact storage I've ever seen, now I only wish I had it when I owned 13 racing bikes!

I just rely on a Minoura telescopic pole two-bike system and wheel stands (as I'm down to just 4 bikes nowadays, what happened :confused:)

https://live.staticflickr.com/7875/47551698811_e01b4eb5e8_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2frYTo4)

cmbicycles
04-06-2019, 10:14 PM
What is this "organized garage" nonsense? ;) It isn't happening at my house, though I can dream about it someday and get ideas from these topics.

parris
04-06-2019, 10:27 PM
CMB you and I are in the same boat! I'm always shifting "stuff" around because I have 20 pounds that I'm trying to fit into a 5 pound sack...

joosttx
04-06-2019, 10:32 PM
Umm forget about the bikes. Is that a mondial?

That’s my question.

martl
04-06-2019, 11:46 PM
that drain in the middle gives me severe anxiety of small parts falling on the floor and goes straight into the drain. the depression leading to it does not help at all.

yep it ate a few washers and bearings so far.

ultraman6970
04-07-2019, 12:25 AM
I got a 6 bike rack (or was 4?) for like 3 bucks a couple of months ago, naively thought was going to be enough for everything even to put my kid's bmx's in there. Thrashed a bunch of stuff... blah blah... made some room and started to put everything back in place. It looks better but in reality the best place IMO to put the bikes is in the walls hanging from the wheels. Realized that after I got everything reorganized.

Been thinking in revisit everything but this time with hooks to hold the bikes from the wheels. The only thing that bothers me is that always thought that the rims will bent or scratch :D Just silly thoughts.

For wheels i have some hooks in the ceiling but not in the right places so those need to be moved and probably swapped maybe for a shelf made of a bed frame, and now that I see that somebody built like a bike shelf for precious items, this encourage me more to do one using a bed frame, just need to find some bed being thrown away in the side walk. The slots are perfect to store wheels.

kppolich
04-07-2019, 02:31 PM
For wheels, I used this from lowes. $6

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Blue-Hawk-12-57-in-Gray-Steel-Utility-Hook/50218519

https://live.staticflickr.com/7855/46642733375_98f46a6920_c.jpghttps://live.staticflickr.com/7898/46642733355_b4ba7c4f0b_c.jpg

tsarpepe
04-07-2019, 04:51 PM
Just two spare wheels?! :eek: People on here will laugh at you (and me). That's austere, Spartan lifestyle around here!

prototoast
04-07-2019, 11:06 PM
Every day is a battle between me and not enough space. I really want to downsize, but keep building new bikes faster than I get rid of them.

tsarpepe
04-08-2019, 07:29 AM
Every day is a battle between me and not enough space. I really want to downsize, but keep building new bikes faster than I get rid of them.

Looks like you've got plenty of space left ;)

wallymann
04-08-2019, 08:10 AM
moved into a smaller ranch a couple years ago, finally got my "mezzanine level" bike storage somewhat situated. this is just rev-1, i will make further refinements...but i needed to get something going -- SUGGESTIONS WELCOME!

next phase is setting up my hanging storage in the garage...which is part of a much larger garage renovation project in spring/summer!

https://scontent.fdet1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/55947565_10217279283966016_2505490960490692608_n.j pg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fdet1-2.fna&oh=8f6638452003f6bbbf3160ef96a71544&oe=5D3EAAB0

cderalow
04-08-2019, 09:15 AM
Every day is a battle between me and not enough space. I really want to downsize, but keep building new bikes faster than I get rid of them.

that a frame building jig out of 80/20 in the background?

unterhausen
04-08-2019, 09:30 AM
Just two spare wheels?! :eek: People on here will laugh at you (and me). That's austere, Spartan lifestyle around here!

that made me take a picture of the wheels hanging in my garage, but then I realize it makes me look like a hoarder. I'm not willing to admit I have a problem yet. And that doesn't include the rack of wheels hanging in the attic

Gsinill
04-08-2019, 09:38 AM
https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/img/photos/2/0/9/0/_/large/keller1.jpg?0 (https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/p/146927)[/QUOTE]

What's the history of your Appel?
Found your posts on BF and CR with more pictures.
Almost looks like it was NOS when you bought it?

prototoast
04-08-2019, 09:39 AM
that a frame building jig out of 80/20 in the background?

Yes. It's the Benchmark Jig (https://benchmarkjig.weebly.com/). If I wasn't trying to build stuff, as well as store stuff, my garage would have a lot more room to work with.

Hindmost
04-08-2019, 10:00 AM
Every day is a battle between me and not enough space. I really want to downsize, but keep building new bikes faster than I get rid of them.

What floor rack are you using? It looks like its modular and the bikes are pretty close together.

C40_guy
04-08-2019, 10:22 AM
I like to keep my garage uncluttered and my bikes handy... :)

https://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1697951206&d=1513261242

prototoast
04-08-2019, 10:26 AM
What floor rack are you using? It looks like its modular and the bikes are pretty close together.

It's this one: https://www.amazon.com/Simple-Houseware-Bicycle-Parking-Adjustable/dp/B01NAWNYRK/ref=sr_1_6

It is modular, and serviceable, but I don't really like it. It's a little too flimsy, so I'm gradually phasing it out with some sturdier racks.

notsew
04-08-2019, 02:54 PM
Every day is a battle between me and not enough space. I really want to downsize, but keep building new bikes faster than I get rid of them.

I think literally building bikes (i.e., not building up) is a pretty reasonable excuse for having that many bikes.

David Tollefson
04-08-2019, 03:39 PM
I think literally building bikes (i.e., not building up) is a pretty reasonable excuse for having that many bikes.

It's the only saving grace at my house...

tsarpepe
04-08-2019, 03:51 PM
I like to keep my garage uncluttered and my bikes handy... :)

https://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1697951206&d=1513261242

Are they all alu?

72gmc
04-08-2019, 04:06 PM
I thought a garage was the antidote to organization.

C40_guy
04-08-2019, 04:43 PM
Are they all alu?

Nope...quite a mix actually. Only the two Dreams are alu.

From left to right:

Colnago Master CX (Columbus steel, unicorn)
Colnago Spiral Conic SLX
Colnago Master Pista
Colnago Dream
Colnago Titanio
Colnago Dream CX
Colnago C40
Colnago C50

The C40, Titanio and Pista are gone. A Master Olympic and a Prestige CX have taken up residence.

By the way when I was staging this photo, a couple of years ago, I was absolutely terrified that my wife would come home and open the garage door from her car (and see all the bikes in one place!!!!)

tsarpepe
04-08-2019, 04:47 PM
Nope...quite a mix actually. Only the two Dreams are alu.

From left to right:

Colnago Master CX (Columbus steel, unicorn)
Colnago Spiral Conic SLX
Colnago Master Pista
Colnago Dream
Colnago Titanio
Colnago Dream CX
Colnago C40
Colnago C50

The C40, Titanio and Pista are gone. A Master Olympic and a Prestige CX have taken up residence.

By the way when I was staging this photo, a couple of years ago, I was absolutely terrified that my wife would come home and open the garage door from her car (and see all the bikes in one place!!!!)

Well, then, only two options remain:
1) you live in a place where it never rains
2) you don't really care if rain falls on those expensive bikes

martl
04-09-2019, 04:13 AM
What's the history of your Appel?
Found your posts on BF and CR with more pictures.
Almost looks like it was NOS when you bought it?

The frameset was advertised on CR like 10-15 years ago(?) by a member who live(s/d) in NY. I had been on the hunt for a while because i love Mikes work, and we almost share the complete same name, so the "M.Appel" on the top tube is correct :)

I think it had been built once but not ridden much if at all. It is almost spotless. Had it sent over to Germany and built it with parts i liked. Its an odd geometry (as many Appel seem to be) with a very long headtube (iirc 59 at 56 framesize). Still it rides nice enough and i take it out every once in a while :) Wold possibly be one of the last two bikes i would ever give away, the other being the made-for-me Pego.

martl
04-15-2019, 12:46 AM
Garage organization level-up: New (to me) vise. (Was thinking to open a thread "vintage Leinen restauration" :))

Friend gave this vice to me ages ago, but it was in a sorry state; very ugly and the rotation mechanism was stuck.
I didn't need it urgently, when i rented my shop it already came with bench ans vise, although an inferior one. Also, this beast weighs a good 35kg and had to be hauled to the location, so i forgot about it lying in my other cellar.. But watching a lot of tool/machining/metalworking related stuff recently on the tube (Hey ThisOldTony, AvE, Handtool Rescue!), i decided it was time. Turned out my Croozer bike luggage trailer could handle this (i was impressed).

This is a part shot of it in its original condition, the two black bricks on both sides of the frame are the two main parts of the vise:

https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/f3/4/478/478772-20wk107wp9fm-19fa2d81_f0ed_44f6_8918_c6f953d42709-medium.jpg (https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/p/478772)

Took it apart, "cleaned" a good bucket of sawdust out of it, used a kingsized bottle of brake cleaner on it, stripped the rust/paint (After fiddling with Q-Tips on and hand-massaging corrosion with silken handkerchiefs of delicate vintage bike parts for decades, it was sort of a cathartic relief to be able to use a shanked knotted wirebrush on an angle grinder with no guilty feelings), went over the races with some fine sandpaper ever so slightly - more for the feeling of having done a thorough job than because they needed it, painted it factory color, greased it thoroughly and now it is the new pride of my homeshop.

(sidenote: That hammerpaint is a breeze to apply, might do my next bike paintjob with it..)

I recon stuck-in BBs will jump out of rusty frames on their own at the mere sight of it...

https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/f3/4/478/478812-ctecaa8veiy8-ad9f05ec_bbd9_433e_98a4_1011d4d8e80f-medium.jpg (https://fotos.rennrad-news.de/p/478812)

"Leinen" they were the cast-iron top class "precision" counterpart to Heuer's more heavy-duty forged ones. indestructible. Every professional toolmaker, fabricator, metalworker of any kind uses them around where i live. I spent many weeks learning how to use a file on those, so having this one now gives me the warm and fuzzies, as things from our youth tend to do to men of my age.

This very specimen can still be bought new, for a hefty 400€ (the turntable is another 160)

It could do with a new set of jaws, but those are an investment as well.

ultraman6970
04-15-2019, 09:56 AM
Wehnt to lowes and got one of those rails they sell plus the bike hooks... have tad more room now.

old_fat_and_slow
04-15-2019, 11:16 AM
Garage organization level-up: New (to me) vise. (Was thinking to open a thread "vintage Leinen restauration" :))

Friend gave this vice to me ages ago, but it was in a sorry state; very ugly and the rotation mechanism was stuck.
I didn't need it urgently, when i rented my shop it already came with bench ans vise, although an inferior one. Also, this beast weighs a good 35kg and had to be hauled to the location, so i forgot about it lying in my other cellar.. But watching a lot of tool/machining/metalworking related stuff recently on the tube (Hey ThisOldTony, AvE, Handtool Rescue!), i decided it was time. Turned out my Croozer bike luggage trailer could handle this (i was impressed).

This is a part shot of it in its original condition, the two black bricks on both sides of the frame are the two main parts of the vise:



Took it apart, "cleaned" a good bucket of sawdust out of it, used a kingsized bottle of brake cleaner on it, stripped the rust/paint (After fiddling with Q-Tips on and hand-massaging corrosion with silken handkerchiefs of delicate vintage bike parts for decades, it was sort of a cathartic relief to be able to use a shanked knotted wirebrush on an angle grinder with no guilty feelings), went over the races with some fine sandpaper ever so slightly - more for the feeling of having done a thorough job than because they needed it, painted it factory color, greased it thoroughly and now it is the new pride of my homeshop.



I recon stuck-in BBs will jump out of rusty frames on their own at the mere sight of it...


"Leinen" they were the cast-iron top class "precision" counterpart to Heuer's more heavy-duty forged ones. indestructible. Every professional toolmaker, fabricator, metalworker of any kind uses them around where i live. I spent many weeks learning how to use a file on those, so having this one now gives me the warm and fuzzies, as things from our youth tend to do to men of my age.

This very specimen can still be bought new, for a hefty 400€ (the turntable is another 160)

It could do with a new set of jaws, but those are an investment as well.

Sweet looking vise. Great restoration job! Something to be proud of for sure.