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thwart
03-10-2019, 06:56 PM
Just saw that this group (a favorite of mine back in college years) is touring again this Spring and will play in Milwaukee. Saw them in concert around '74...

OK, I know I'm getting old, but this (from a Rolling Stone piece about the upcoming tour) is a little sobering:

The group reunited in 2009 with much of the “All The Young Dudes” lineup still intact, though drummer Dale Griffin was suffering from early-onset Alzheimer’s disease and was only able to play during the encores. They toured again in 2013, but since then they’ve been faced with a series of tragedies including the death of Griffin in 2016 and the death of bassist Pete Overend Watts in 2017. Guitarist Mick Ralphs is still alive, but in 2016 he suffered a stroke and has been out of commission ever since.

BTW, lead singer Ian Hunter turns 80 this year... :eek:

eddief
03-10-2019, 06:58 PM
All the Way to Memphis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvFpX98EOPo

rounder
03-10-2019, 08:31 PM
Everyone likes what they like, especially what they grew up with.

But if you are old like me. and see groups like Bob Dylan and Rolling Stones still cranking out their stuff, it is amazing and inspiring (not necessarily their best or even good stuff). I will still listen to it. To me, it is still way better than what comes out these days.

54ny77
03-10-2019, 09:20 PM
Wow Ian Hunter is 80????

That's nuts.

And to think, "all the young dudes" only know of brifters...

:cool:

Bruce K
03-10-2019, 11:00 PM
Sad

Not kidding when we talk about the rockers of our youth as a dying breed.

I know music, like most things, evolves but I agree, that was a great era for music

BK

oliver1850
03-11-2019, 12:11 AM
One of my favorite bands of the early 70s. I never got close to seeing them live as first Mick Ralphs and then Ian Hunter departed for other opportunities before I started going to concerts. Remember their performances on late night rock TV shows well. Hope you go to see them and it's a good show.

Tony T
03-11-2019, 06:34 AM
I saw them play the Uris theatre in `74. (The opening act was a new group called Queen ;))

https://www.nytimes.com/1974/05/09/archives/mott-the-hoople-at-uris.html
‘Queen, another British band, opened the bill. This was its first New York performance as part of its first United States tour, and the group made a mixed impression. It was enjoyable enough to listen to, particularly Brian May's virtuosic guitar playing. But Freddie Mercury, the lead singer, is addicted to toothy, unconvincing posturings, and the other three members just stand about limply, unable to provide much visual relief."

Climb01742
03-11-2019, 08:33 AM
One more old geezer who listened to Mott in college.;):)

eddief
03-11-2019, 09:16 AM
remember them? famous for "boobs a lot."

XXtwindad
03-11-2019, 09:20 AM
I saw them play the Uris theatre in `74. (The opening act was a new group called Queen ;))

https://www.nytimes.com/1974/05/09/archives/mott-the-hoople-at-uris.html
‘Queen, another British band, opened the bill. This was its first New York performance as part of its first United States tour, and the group made a mixed impression. It was enjoyable enough to listen to, particularly Brian May's virtuosic guitar playing. But Freddie Mercury, the lead singer, is addicted to toothy, unconvincing posturings, and the other three members just stand about limply, unable to provide much visual relief."

What a gem ...

wc1934
03-11-2019, 09:27 AM
Sad

Not kidding when we talk about the rockers of our youth as a dying breed.

I know music, like most things, evolves but I agree, that was a great era for music

BK

yup - sex, drugs and rock n roll. Ahh, the good old times - went by fast.

redir
03-11-2019, 09:28 AM
Funny this comes up. I just heard of this band the other day when my wife in I were at Five Guys and the song ' All The Young Dudes' came on the air and we were taking guesses at who it was. I would have sworn it was Bowie but she pulled out the sound hound app and it showed Mott the Hoople and we were like, huh?

XXtwindad
03-11-2019, 09:39 AM
My first music crush was Stevie Nicks. "Rumors" was the first album I ever owned. I was in elementary school, and she was in her late twenties.

She is now 70.

Time marches on ...

cmg
03-11-2019, 10:12 AM
pat benatar played here last year during new years eve. still has the pipes. Robin Trower plays here in November. remembering hearing bridge of sighs.

Tony T
03-11-2019, 10:14 AM
Funny this comes up. I just heard of this band the other day when my wife in I were at Five Guys and the song ' All The Young Dudes' came on the air and we were taking guesses at who it was. I would have sworn it was Bowie but she pulled out the sound hound app and it showed Mott the Hoople and we were like, huh?

You must be very young ;)
That was the hit (written by Bowie), on the Mott album All The Young Dudes' (produced by Bowie) and is Number 256 of Rolling Stones 500 Greatest Songs of All Time. (Bowie did perform it live)

redir
03-11-2019, 10:24 AM
You must be very young ;)
That was the hit (written by Bowie), on the Mott album All The Young Dudes' (produced by Bowie) and is Number 256 of Rolling Stones 500 Greatest Songs of All Time. (Bowie did perform it live)

Ah! Well lets just say I was young at the time ;)

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Two years ago I saw Blondie play with her band. I'm tellin ya the girl could still sing.

thwart
03-11-2019, 12:46 PM
Ah! Well lets just say I was young at the time ;)


For all the young dudes who haven't seen it... and the images of the youth of the early 70's.

https://youtu.be/mfwVfEXJhQQ

Jingle Jangle
03-11-2019, 01:37 PM
Love Ian Hunter (and Mott)

Was enjoying this at the weekend:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXsMamU2sPs

jtbadge
03-11-2019, 01:39 PM
Funny this comes up. I just heard of this band the other day when my wife in I were at Five Guys and the song ' All The Young Dudes' came on the air and we were taking guesses at who it was. I would have sworn it was Bowie but she pulled out the sound hound app and it showed Mott the Hoople and we were like, huh?

Bowie wrote that song and produced their self-titled record, so you weren't too far off.

EDIT: I see I was beaten to the punch here. Carry on!

Elefantino
03-11-2019, 03:42 PM
All the Way to Memphis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvFpX98EOPo

*From* ... All the way from Memphis.

Killer track.

BryanE
03-11-2019, 05:25 PM
Saw George Thorogood last year.
He's still got it.

Bob Ross
03-12-2019, 04:26 AM
All the way from Memphis.

Killer track.


That tune was my intro to Mott The Hoople; they played it on one of those late night music shows in the early 70s, either "Don Kirschner's Rock Concert" or "The Midnight Special" and my wee teenaged mind was completely blown by their outrageous guitars and hair and platform boots...

Always loved this verse:

"I got to oreoles y'know it took a month
And there was my guitar, electric junk
Some spade said rock 'n' rollers, you're all the same
Man that's your instrument. I felt so ashamed"

Rudy
03-17-2019, 09:10 PM
“Jerkin’ Crocus didn’t kill me but she sure came near.”

PBWrench
03-19-2019, 06:26 AM
John Mayall is in his 80's as well. going to see him at the Iridium in NYC this summer. Maybe Clapton will show up.

johnniecakes
03-19-2019, 10:24 AM
Just recently saw Kansas, 2 original members still touring. Sounded great but very much canned. Come out do the set, one encore and gone. Not it mattered if the hall was full or not, just doing the job.

Repack Rider
03-19-2019, 10:38 AM
When I got out of the Army in 1968, I took a job as a roadie for the Sons of Champlin (http://www.sonic.net/~ckelly/Seekay/sons_welcome.htm), one of the original SF bands. Worked on shows with the Dead, Airplane, Quicksilver, Credence, Byrds, Steve Miller, Jethro Tull, Mayall, toured with Three Dog Night, Leon Russell, and Average White Band.

Double-Grammy front man Bill Champlin also did 28 years as a member of Chicago.

I kept the gig for 42 years, missed four performances in that time. Had to pay to see my friends on their most recent annual Labor Day gig here in Marin County, only the second time in my life I paid for the privilege. They are still performing.

Climb01742
03-19-2019, 11:41 AM
I posted this on the Dick Dale thread, too. This was Dick at 60. Aging? Sweet mother of god. May we all be this at 60.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UmmbF1Zyvk

DarkStar
03-19-2019, 11:43 AM
When I got out of the Army in 1968, I took a job as a roadie for the Sons of Champlin (http://www.sonic.net/~ckelly/Seekay/sons_welcome.htm), one of the original SF bands. Worked on shows with the Dead, Airplane, Quicksilver, Credence, Byrds, Steve Miller, Jethro Tull, Mayall, toured with Three Dog Night, Leon Russell, and Average White Band.

Double-Grammy front man Bill Champlin also did 28 years as a member of Chicago.

I kept the gig for 42 years, missed four performances in that time. Had to pay to see my friends on their most recent annual Labor Day gig here in Marin County, only the second time in my life I paid for the privilege. They are still performing.
Very cool!

Mr. Pink
03-19-2019, 02:39 PM
Hunter has released some great solo stuff over the last decade.

One of my first concerts was Mott followed by Zep at Asbury Park Convention hall. Nuts.

72gmc
03-19-2019, 02:58 PM
I recently half-watched a Bowie documentary on in-flight entertainment. I remember a reference to Mott the Hoople and a speaker who was still incredulous that Bowie just gifted them the song. At least they didn't decline the offer.

Tony T
03-19-2019, 03:56 PM
I recently half-watched a Bowie documentary on in-flight entertainment. I remember a reference to Mott the Hoople and a speaker who was still incredulous that Bowie just gifted them the song. At least they didn't decline the offer.

Well, Bowie has sole credit on the song, and he produced the album, so…gift???
(Without Bowie's help, Mott would have disbanded, that was the real gift)

mosca
03-19-2019, 04:05 PM
When I got out of the Army in 1968, I took a job as a roadie for the Sons of Champlin (http://www.sonic.net/~ckelly/Seekay/sons_welcome.htm), one of the original SF bands. Worked on shows with the Dead, Airplane, Quicksilver, Credence, Byrds, Steve Miller, Jethro Tull, Mayall, toured with Three Dog Night, Leon Russell, and Average White Band.

Double-Grammy front man Bill Champlin also did 28 years as a member of Chicago.

I kept the gig for 42 years, missed four performances in that time. Had to pay to see my friends on their most recent annual Labor Day gig here in Marin County, only the second time in my life I paid for the privilege. They are still performing.
Curious if you knew The Ace of Cups?

This is a great story of their brief career and recent reunion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP3uMR1CEeY