GURU Praemio Ti ?

[cnighbor1]

what is the built quality of GURU Praemio Ti frames?
anyone own one?
Thanks
charles

[Clancy]

Used to own one just couple years ago, REALLY liked it. I thought the build quality was excellent, on par with any custom builder. I sold it as it was just a little too big, but I wouldn’t hesitate to buy another - in the right size. If the one I had fit correctly, I’d still have it.

If I remember correctly, it was also lighter than comparable Ti frames.

Guru did spectacular work.

They have re-emerged as T-Lab, check them out. Doing some cutting edge design. Their manipulation of the tubing is impressive.

http://t-lab-bikes.com/

[bigman]

i stupidly sold mine
Fantastic rig, don’t hesitate!

[Gat64]

D'oh! Did not see someone already listed T-Lab.

FTI: A lot of the original Guru guys are with an new outfit called T-Lab.

See here: https://t-lab-bikes.com/

[dbnm]

One here
https://www.ebay.com/itm/GURU-Praemio-Ti-57cm-frame-and-carbon-fork-Relisted/382789230658?hash=item5920042042:g:kZ4AAOSwLMFcX1W o

[zzy]

There was some internet drama nonsense about the quality of the Ti welds based on some video, but I always found their bikes first rate. Always well made and finished in my experience. Was sad to see them close down.

[bitpuddle]

I’d agree with the other comments. I was in the process of ordering a custom Praemio disc when they went under. I regret not starting the process earlier. They tended to be quite stiff, so I wouldn’t expect it to be a cruiser. I can’t remember how they offered to tune this on a custom frame (butting, tube selection?), so this particular frame may be different.

My local dealer had a few of them and they were great. I ride with someone who has a somewhat older Praemio and likes it, with no durability issues.

[Hilltopperny]

I owned the Praemio R version and the build quality was excellent. The R was stiffer, had shorter 1" chainstays compared to the regular Praemio. It was the most responsive titanium frame I've ridden to date.

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[StanleySteamer]

I have a Guru SVEL' Ti bike (model before the Praemio). The frame has just enough clearance for Conti 28s. I can ride the bike smooth gravel roads. What I like most about the SVEL'Ti is the price of a used frame compared to a Praemio and other high end Ti bikes.

[tuxbailey]

I owned the Praemio R version and the build quality was excellent. The R was stiffer, had shorter 1" chainstays compared to the regular Praemio. It was the most responsive titanium frame I've ridden to date.

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I bought his bike and I like it. It is stiffer than my Merlin Extralight but it is compliant. Great craftsmanship and beautiful paint job.

If you buy an earlier model with the G-Unit RD Hanger, make sure to buy one from this seller as backup.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Guru-Praemio-Sidero-G-UNIT-derailleur-hanger-UPGRADED/143038384129?hash=item214dc08801:g:eYIAAOSwk9dZm3N D:rk:2:pf:1&frcectupt=true

https://tuxbailey.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2725277629-5.jpg

[m_moses]

I've always liked the version that had these seatstays . . .