What's your Job

[Joxster]

Following on from the Why Should I pay retail, it's my right to be a dick.

What's your Job? And Can you be replaced by the Internet?

[ultraman6970]

Not me. Unless they get self driving buses.

[gdw]

Scrivener. The internet had nothing to do with my profession's demise. Damn typewriters.

[bianchi10]

Regional manager - Rockstar Energy.

No, they couldn't replace human/distribution management from computers.

[Joxster]

Not me. Unless they get self driving buses.

It's coming, self crashing (sorry) driving cars, it'll be trucks and buses next.

[Joxster]

Regional manager - Rockstar Energy.

No, they couldn't replace human/distribution management from computers.

Why not, I've got a POS that works out what my sales are so deliver plus 10% each week and adjust if over stocked and if the bar manager (or Whoever) has a demo add or decrease as needed.

You're out of a job

[Gummee]

In part, yeah, insurance sales and marketing could be replaced by bits and bytes

...except there's laws against it

Thank goodness I still know how to wrench on bicycles.

M

[Joxster]

In part, yeah, insurance sales and marketing could be replaced by bits and bytes

...except there's laws against it

Thank goodness I still know how to wrench on bicycles.

M

But for how long???

[Gummee]

But for how long???

Dunno.

I suspect the software's already written. Till then, I'ma make hay as the sun shines (but it ain't shining today! More rain in the nation's capitol)

M

[galgal]

Scrivener. The internet had nothing to do with my profession's demise. Damn typewriters.

Ha! gdw, may I introduce you to Bartleby the Scrivener, whose motto is "I would prefer not to."

[GOTHBROOKS]

im a bootlegger.
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[bigbill]

Engineering Manager. The people who work for me maintain our future robotic overlords. I'm also in my 50's, In 4-5 years I won't care.

[adub]

I repair VCR's

[bianchi10]

Why not, I've got a POS that works out what my sales are so deliver plus 10% each week and adjust if over stocked and if the bar manager (or Whoever) has a demo add or decrease as needed.

You're out of a job

Because its not just order/inventory management. Im not responsible for taking store orders. My job requires day to day distributor and sales reps management to ensure they are following the direction of the brand and being held accountable in the trade. Are there current technologies that can help aid that, of course. But in order to manage people and their productivity requires

[zacstanley]

im a bootlegger.
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My fave band of all time.

I'm a cartographer for a national park partner non-profit.

[fogrider]

I repair VCR'sHow many have you worked on in the last week?

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[Matthew]

Correction's officer in a maximum security housing unit. Pretty much seen it all. Don't think I have to worry about a computer taking my job.

[saab2000]

My job could be replaced by technology tomorrow. The question remains whether or not the public would buy a ticket on a commercial airplane that had no pilots on board.

I have less than 15 years to go in my career. I'm safe. Not sure the next generation of pilots will be safe for their whole careers.

Eventually airplane drivers will be replaced or the number cut in half.

[seanile]

architectural contracts manager.
getting rid of me is an express route to spending minimum 6x more money on lawyers.

[AJosiahK]

I roast and brew coffee. Id say not replaceable by a computer. Though we use a Loring, IE a pretty dang smart machine if you know how to use it.

No computer could ever replace the human aspect of tasting, goes for most anything honestly right?

[Ti Designs]

I teach what nobody thinks they need to learn. I could be replaced by nothing at all.

[fa63]

Civil Engineer. Will likely be replaced by software at some point (in fact, I am co-founder of a software company working slowly towards that).

[jmoore]

Corporate Project Manager. Lots of people say I'm not very useful now. :p

[OtayBW]

Research Scientist at a Federal Lab (currently 'on furlough'....:crap:)

[thirdgenbird]

I manage a training department for a mid-sized manufacturing company. Our main product is diagnostic/service training for advanced equipment. The machines themselves are becoming more automated, the need for technicians is going up, and the supply of [young] people equipped to step into the role is going down.

[Motoguzzi1]

Repairing motorcycles for 30 years...

[Jaybee]

Geologist. I clean up oil spills, mostly.

I’m sure I could be replaced by a robot at some point in the proximate future.

[Steve in SLO]

Newborn intensive care (NICU) doctor here.
I'll be around for a while.

[exapkib]

Foreign language/literature professor.

Most days apathy and/or lack of vision seems like a much bigger threat to my profession than technology . . .

[Seramount]

retired.

you'd have to develop a computer that can ride a bike, swim laps, work in the yard, and go to lunch/happy hours with friends...

[gomango]

I'm a middle school math teacher at a local magnet school.

We have a strong focus on the "whole child" which is becoming an elusive goal.

I'm a couple of years out from retirement and we (our kids in college) are buying rental properties at a pretty good clip.

Should keep us busy for the next 10-15 years or until the boys want to try something different.

[pinkshogun]

i work in a juvenile prison. the law states they must receive an education while incarcerated. For the past 2 years each student learns in front of a computer rather than listen to a teacher yap for 45 minutes per period. there is still a teacher in the room to answer questions and to shut down and porn that may arise.

[gregblow]

All way cooler jobs than mine. Just a sales guy

[ultraman6970]

Education has changed so much, i have middle school level kids and drive me nuts when they have to do math in a computer or even write an essay or project in the computer... they cant even grab a pen to write correctly... even when I sit with them to do math I have really hard time making them grab a notebook and do the math in paper 1st and going step by step. The good thing about the computer type of education is that now the teacher doesnt need to be like 20 hours a week at home checking up homeworks, you have no idea how I respect the teacher profession.

THis year in my county the kids got a tablet, they do homework there, just want to see how things develop in the future at college university level, paper and work in an organized manner is a must specially at that level. Scares the kreeps out me when I think in my kids, because arent the best ones at it, and from looking all of the other geniuouses that are a school with them, well... u got the idea.

[cloudguy]

Research Scientist at a Federal Lab (currently 'on furlough'....:crap:)

What type of science?

I'm a CU employee who works as atmospheric research scientist in a Federal lab (ESRL). Pretty much on "furlough", although I'm still getting paid, unlike the feds.

[ultraman6970]

Thought on that, doubt will happen... u need the human factor specially with the neanderthals that are actually going to school lately.

What I do foresee tho is electric school buses, that I do believe will happen. The issue is that the 2 or 3 big school buses manufacturers arent going that way and the day a 3rd party comes up like tesla, well that will put a lot of people off work. But the saving in fuel will be astronomical.

You only need a bus that can be driven 3 hours in the morning and 3 hours in the afternnon. with quick charging time. A 200kg condenser inside maybe? ... ok off topic stuff as usual :P

It's coming, self crashing (sorry) driving cars, it'll be trucks and buses next.

[OtayBW]

What type of science?

I'm a CU employee who works as atmospheric research scientist in a Federal lab (ESRL). Pretty much on "furlough", although I'm still getting paid, unlike the feds.
Materials Scientist (mostly industrial mineralogy and surface chemistry). I work a lot these days with durability of nuclear concrete structures. Strong background in soil-landscape evolution, mineral resource development, etc. Have also done lots of work in the past on paleoclimatic indicators of global climate change, terrestrial effects of acid deposition, etc. Looks like we both work for Wilbur (a dubious distiction...:eek:)! I'm at NIST. Cheers.

[echappist]

Materials Scientist (mostly industrial mineralogy and surface chemistry). I work a lot these days with durability of nuclear concrete structures. Strong background in landscape evolution, mineral resource development, etc. Have also done lots of work in the past on paleoclimatic indicators of global climate change, terrestrial effects of acid deposition, etc. Looks like we both work for Wilbur (a dubious distiction...:eek:)! I'm at NIST. Cheers.

make that three of us...
anytime i get emails from him, i just smirk. smh... and they won't even allow us to enter the Commerce building with our normal IDs...

not on furlough though, yet, thank goodness. though the way this thing is going, i may get furloughed in three week's time.

almost nothing is as demoralizing as realizing that people are using your livelihood as a bargaining chip

stay strong!

ETA: if you work at NIST and live in northern Baltimore County, that's gotta be a helluva commute

[gemship]

I work for myself harvesting (digging clams). They mostly get shucked for fried clams by the dealers I sell too. I also dig razor clams, quite a market for them as sushi in China. I've been doing this full time for five years now. The work ebbs and flows with the low tides and I only do it during daylight hours when the clam flats are conditionally approved for harvesting. I have regular dealers I sell to a few other dealers from time to time that may pay a higher price. I spend money to make money at it and it can be fun but it can be brutally hard as well. It's an athletic event. No way in heck could a machine do what I do and it can't be outsourced. However we, Man is destroying the planet besides the fact that the clams simply come and go. It's a lucrative activity with no future. However with low overhead as everything I own, home, wheels, stuff is paid for, no wives or kids of my own, I'm doing ok. I could own a Porsche if I really wanted to and pay cash for it but I really do try to save for my future. I like my gig I hope it lasts awhile so long as there is clams around. It's fun to talk about it to a point where the listener wants to do it to then my greed sets in and it's like I think of the Tasmanian devil with guns a flaring "back off" and stay out of my wallet.

[joosttx]

stay at home dad / fund manager.

[Mikej]

Hired muscle for area bookmaker- you got any problems with someone you let me know....I also moonlight as an R&D engineer type in the flow metering device market.

[cnighbor1]

Mobile Media distribution center manager
If you do not have a great title for your profession than your never going to make it in this competitive world

At 82 I deliver newspapers once a week at Rossmoor retirement center Walnut creek

[OtayBW]

make that three of us...
anytime i get emails from him, i just smirk. smh... and they won't even allow us to enter the Commerce building with our normal IDs...

not on furlough though, yet, thank goodness. though the way this thing is going, i may get furloughed in three week's time.

almost nothing is as demoralizing as realizing that people are using your livelihood as a bargaining chip

stay strong!

ETA: if you work at NIST and live in northern Baltimore County, that's gotta be a helluva commuteOh man - I'm up every day at 4:00a and then work from 6:30a until ~3:00p. Even then, the commute home can be real tough - and routed differently every day, depending on conditions. If I get out late, I'm basically trapped for 3 hours. It is taking its toll, for sure. Good luck!

[Hilltopperny]

I'm a general contractor, but once I finish up my current project I'm taking time off to raise my infant son while the Wife goes back to work (Art teacher). I'll get back at it in the Summer when the wife gets her time off.

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[veloduffer]

Marionettist (puppeteer in layman's terms)...I’ve got the world on a string.

[CNY rider]

Mobile Media distribution center manager
If you do not have a great title for your profession than your never going to make it in this competitive world

At 82 I deliver newspapers once a week at Rossmoor retirement center Walnut creek

Please we need a "like" button for this post!
:hello:

[m_sasso]

Puppeteer...I’ve got the world on a string.


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Sounds similar to my work, retired however, moonlight as a PlaySight manager at a decommissioned Olympic facility.

Replacement, someday, currently someone needs to oversee the computers.

[makoti]

MRI Technologist. Just a matter of time, I imagine. The only part I'm needed for is getting claustro people through it. Kind of a very technical baby sitter.

[jpritchet74]

Structural engineer for a scaffolding company. Greatest structural engineering job possible. Nothing is ever the same. Impossible to get bored.

[johnniecakes]

I was a controls engineer until I retired a week ago. I applied the automation to machines and production lines to reduce the manpower required to perform repetitive functions. I see myself spending a lot of time doing something that cannot be automated. Spending time caring for people, some who just need to talk with someone, drive them to appointments, help with bill paying etc. Somewhere in the gap usually occupied by family but for those who do not have that support network.

[R3awak3n]

I am a vfx compositor.

[zennmotion]

Evaluator for poverty and human rights programs in developing countries, mostly Africa and the Middle East. I analyze data on what's working, what's not working, do research on program impact and how to make it all better and more resource efficient. I love the work as I get paid to learn and work across a lot of subject areas including financial services, water and sanitation, agriculture, rural roads and power grids and health services. Lots of travel sometimes through nice places to get to a lot of not-so-nice places and work with a lot of amazing under-recognized heroes.

[taz-t]

Lawyer.

Profession's been around a while. Probably not going away soon.

As long as people are doing stuff to, with, or concerning other people we'll be here to clean up the mess (or make it worse).

[scoobydrew]

Mechanical engineer in the semiconductor industry

[Bradford]

I'm a consultant and help people with projects that they don't do as part of their normal business...things like strategy, M&A, and major process changes.

Most manager level people and below think that I'm unnecessary and they can do it themselves, most VP level people and above think I'm a godsend and they would have no chance of success without me (or someone who looks just like me).

As long as people are used to manage companies, and changes happen to business models and industries, there will be a role for folks like me.

[Mzilliox]

Mechanical engineer in the semiconductor industry

Weird. I used to edit a semiconductor newsletter. I farm, guide fishing, and roast coffee. I realy dont care what jobs machines take. We dont have any leadership considering the implications of that anyway. Humans are weird

[parris]

Correction Officer for a county facility. I see every level of criminal before their case is disposed of and they either are released, sentenced to county time, sentenced to state time, or sentenced to fed time.

I'm also a FTO as well as a DCJS instructor for general topics, reality based training, and firearms.

[kingpin75s]

"Cloud" builder. I should be fine as long as it remains interesting.

[john903]

I am Retired Coast Guard so now I can be a School Bus driver. People laugh but it is a great second career job with summers off and full medical benefits and I get to hang out with kids and drive around and have fun. I am also the driver trainer so I get to teach and train new drivers which is also very enjoyable.

Driver less School Buses, maybe but not for a long time. There will have to be lots and lots of testing and R&D before that happens. After all we are transporting precious cargo not tomatoes. These students are someones kids and grand kids.

This is a great topic we all get to see what a diverse group we are with Cycling our common goal.

Thanks

[ChainNoise]

Tool and die maker for a progressive precision metal stamping company.

I can't ever see my job being replaced by a computer. Far too much troubleshooting and grooming.

[Peter P.]

Driver less School Buses, maybe but not for a long time. There will have to be lots and lots of testing and R&D before that happens. After all we are transporting precious cargo not tomatoes.

I can't imagine replacing school bus drivers EVER. An adult has to BE ON THE BUS as supervisor of children, police officer, and for their safety.

[mbrtool]

Toolmaker...I know how to cut hardened tool steel very accurately using the latest technology. Hardware is amazing...software is due to make a giant leap if those companies are investing wisely in our trade. I'm 71...I think I'll make it to retirement.
Ray

[GregL]

I like to say that I'm a radar systems engineer. At this point in my career, I manage teams of engineers who do the real heavy lifting. While many of the tools of my trade have become automated, someone has to design the automation. No sign of this career field going away in the near future.

Greg

[JAGI410]

I work for an Autodesk reseller, and specialize in CAD software for civil engineering. I do training and support for firms across the country.

[Aldus]

After getting my chemical engineering degree and working for about 5 years, I quit my job in distilled spirits operations recently. Going to take some classes in web development / programming and try my luck at some form of software development.

[PaMtbRider]

Maintenance electrician for Harley Davidson. I work on all the equipment that replaces people, robotic welders, cutting lasers, automated guided carts...

[jm714]

City manager, I don’t worry about tech replacing me. I worry about politicians.

[thegunner]

software engineer, i'll be in the good graces of our robotic overlords.

After getting my chemical engineering degree and working for about 5 years, I quit my job in distilled spirits operations recently. Going to take some classes in web development / programming and try my luck at some form of software development.

i studied chemE (even got a grad degree for it), software dev is a lot like process control / meb haha

[dbnm]

art book publisher

[Willy]

Retired :banana::banana::banana:

[many_styles]

Product Designer (User Experience)

[Clean39T]

Policy and stakeholder affairs consultant for companies who engage with wholesale energy markets...which basically is a combination of reporter, librarian, liaison, adviser, interpreter, translator, analyst, and probably a few other things.

I really enjoy the work, love my company, and get a lot of fulfilment out of helping my clients.

It's a fascinating industry to be a part of in these times - especially the little corner of it I hang out in...

I never could have predicted I'd be here now and couldn't map a career course for anyone wanting to do what I do, but that's what makes life fun...right?

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[Hank Scorpio]

Department of Veteran’s Affairs hospice/palliative care nurse. Also per diem interventional radiology technologist. I think I am pretty safe in the nursing field but I could see a robot assisting in the IR suite.

[pobrien]

I was the Manager of Environment at the largest Oil Sands operation in Alberta until I retired two years ago. I was the primary contact with regulatory agencies and responsible for protecting the environment and the company.

The young graduates I recruited and developed should have good careers in environmental management until we have fusion reactors to provide clean energy. Hopefully we are not too far away from that.

Being retired is wonderful! I ride quite a lot and live in the wonderful city of Vancouver in British Columbia. Great riding country.

[kppolich]

Project Manager in the software industry. Originally in biotech research, made the jump to software development after I realized it runs absolutely everything.

Replaced by the internet- probably.

[veloduffer]

Marionettist (puppeteer in layman's terms)...I’ve got the world on a string.

My daytime job is head of credit risk and investment risk strategist for one of the big life insurers and formerly for AIG during the financial crisis.

[s4life]

Principal AI Engineer for some large company in Silicon Valley.

[BobbyJones]

Professional Scapegoat.

Thick skin and a sense of humor has done me well.

[rrudoff]

Mechanical engineer. Used to work on rockets and jet engines, evolved to laser based instrumentation. After 13 years of that moved on to biotech mostly for last 18 years. Presently direct the design and build of DNA synthesis and DNA sequencing machines.

[Tabl10s]

Following on from the Why Should I pay retail, it's my right to be a dick.

What's your Job? And Can you be replaced by the Internet?

Retired Air Force and work for Delta and American Airlines. Can be replaced but passengers won't like it.

[OtayBW]

I was the Manager of Environment at the largest Oil Sands operation in Alberta until I retired two years ago. I was the primary contact with regulatory agencies and responsible for protecting the environment and the company.Oh boy - I know a few things about oil sands dewatering technology in reclamation. Quite a challenge...

[oldpotatoe]

My job could be replaced by technology tomorrow. The question remains whether or not the public would buy a ticket on a commercial airplane that had no pilots on board.

I have less than 15 years to go in my career. I'm safe. Not sure the next generation of pilots will be safe for their whole careers.

Eventually airplane drivers will be replaced or the number cut in half.

Considering technology available now, not sure why most airliners DO have 2 crew..Seems if fatigue isn't an issue, one would suffice..I think the only 'sticking point' is how do you train future Captains?

For me..'Mannying' along with wife with 5 and 7 year old grand daughters which is WAY tougher than running the bike shop child care.

[paredown]

Tool and die maker for a progressive precision metal stamping company.

I can't ever see my job being replaced by a computer. Far too much troubleshooting and grooming.
My pop's old occupation--a labor historian I know called it "the thinking man's trade."

[572cv]

Still practicing as an architect, on projects and for clients I enjoy, but I have throttled back at my age. Not retired, but eyeing it. I serve on the board of a Vermont non profit. I’ve worked in construction and engineering, been elected in government, done a little lecturing and teaching. I’d say my ‘job’ is in flux, but then, I suppose it always has been. I’m enjoying recent successes of my kids, and looking forward to more cycling in the future.


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[sokyroadie]

Supposed to be semi-retired (3) 10 hr days which is actually considered full time, so full benefits. Work for a job shop - machining, fabrication & machinery rigging. I primarily quote jobs and project manage them, recently back to full time (short term) Managing fabrication shop.

[PaMtbRider]

One of my favorite job descriptions that I have heard was petroleum transfer engineer. The guy pumped gas at the convenience store.

[Slamcarneyson]

I'm the Operations Manager at a bicycle centered non profit near DC. We take donated/unloved/unused bikes from the metro area and send them to organizations around the world. Most of the orgs on the other end are in Ghana (Best wrenches in the world tbh), Burkina Faso, Costa Rica, Madagascar, Philippines. Just in 2018 we've sent 10,000+ bikes. Good gig, lots of driving, but you see every type of bike hoarder there is. We also get gems quite often.

[pdonk]

I tell people I'm a "corporate plumber". I deal with excrement and get it done.

My real job is as an urban planner for a development company. My job entails every aspect of the land acquisition and approval process. From minor variances to ensuring every permit is in place as well as a few things that are funny.

After 10 years in public sector and a short gig as a consultant happy I made the change. How else could I afford my new speedvagen.

[beercan]

Fireman, best job in the world

[1centaur]

I manage fixed income funds and structured products. That means I judge credit risk and construct portfolios to meet return and risk goals for investors with varying goals.

To the extent the job is selecting/rejecting credit characteristics and buying and selling position weights, a computer could do that but not the way I do it. How it would do it would depend on the credit attributes programmed into it, but even I could not instruct a programmer to do exactly what I do, nor would a computer adapt to a changing world or look forward in the way a human does. More likely a computer would repeat the mistakes of the Fed (6x leverage = bad) by looking backwards and not understanding what it was seeing. Investing is in part about understanding human nature, though as computers do more and more of the trading it may become about programs anticipating other programs built off a base of prior human judgment.

[CDRB]

Veterans Services Officer. Help Vets and their families identify and obtain benefits they have earned. Great gig!!!

[heartattackride]

Was an art director for 27ish years (entertainment, toy, action sports, yes some bike brands also). At 48 went back to school to get my masters in clinical psychology and now at 52 I’m finishing my hours to be a licensed psychotherapist. Love the job and doubt AI will take over.

[Plum Hill]

What's your Job?

Heck, I thought this question should have been asked in the Old Guys of Paceline thread.

I was an electrician for 35 years. I was “retired” when doctors refused to fix my worn out body. Going on nine years and I’m still having that worn out body fixed.
Not replaced by computers, but young smart ass kids that want the old guys out of the way.

[kokies]

I sell trash


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[ThasFACE]

Tax consultant, then criminal litigator, then strategy consultant, and now acting (and related). Hopefully at least one of those is robot-overlord-proof.

[clyde the point]

Emergency Department RN.

[AngryScientist]

I sell trash




so you work for sram then?


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[climbgdh]

I’m a Mechanical Engineer and have spent the bulk of my career working in Oil&Gas and Petrochemical industries...... mostly in Canada although I did a stint overseas early in my career. I now manage maintenance activities at a large SAGD facility in the oil sands of northern Alberta. Challenging industry right now.... and I’ll be glad when I can move to something else.... like retirement. :)

[saab2000]

Considering technology available now, not sure why most airliners DO have 2 crew..Seems if fatigue isn't an issue, one would suffice..I think the only 'sticking point' is how do you train future Captains?

For me..'Mannying' along with wife with 5 and 7 year old grand daughters which is WAY tougher than running the bike shop child care.

I think they’ll go to one when the pilot no longer has control but monitors instead. There are two now to 1. Work as a team and check each other and 2. In case one is incapacitated.

Pilots can still make decisions about weather and turbulence and other human factors that artificial intelligence probably can’t. Yet. It’ll come though. Pilots are the weak link in aviation. Most accidents are the result of human error or it plays a large role.

[TimD]

Contract programmer, semi-retired since early 2015.

Trained as an electrical engineer, concentrated on developing system software for computer systems and computer communications equipment (packet switches and Internet routers) for 35 years. Participated in and led some very interesting and commercially successful projects, as well as some utter failures which never saw the light of day.

I continue to program because I simply love making (and fixing) stuff. Bikes, wheels, amateur woodworking, computer software. Sometimes it gets boring, but the screen can be a canvas.

Very happy to have taken a step back from the world of commercial high tech. No matter how hard you worked, there was always more to do. Whiny, self-important, sniveling ISP customers (the Phone-y Company at the very top of the list), "offshore development", layoffs every quarter - that's all in the past now. :banana:

[2LeftCleats]

Internist/primary care physician. Retired from full time last Thursday. Knee replaced Friday and when that’s better I’ll work part time until spring before moving west. Won’t be replaced in the near future, but as AI matures, computers will be more involved in healthcare. We are being replaced currently by nurse practitioners and physician assistants. Barring a major structural change in US healthcare, the economic reality pushes students to the specialties.

[Peter B]

Heck, I thought this question should have been asked in the Old Guys of Paceline thread.

I was an electrician for 35 years. I was “retired” when doctors refused to fix my worn out body. Going on nine years and I’m still having that worn out body fixed.
Not replaced by computers, but young smart ass kids that want the old guys out of the way.

MEP guy for a $1B+ CA GC. Mostly healthcare, pharmaceutical, educational and tech. 38 yrs in construction, electrician by trade, off the tools since the late 90's. Evolving technology certainly changes how we do our work but it won't fully replace the tradesman or me for some time, if ever. Design, modeling, spatial and functional coordination, collaboration, prefab and layout all benefit from AI. But in complex structures putting it all together, hell even getting to the point of thinking of putting it all together, still requires humans. The getting it all to work the way it's supposed to (when the schedule says it has to) has been my bread and butter.

One downside is that this evolution can turn journeyman tradespeople into simply installers. Young people who enter the building trades would do well to ground their training in solid theory, develop strong computer skills, embrace and become adept with evolving field technology and listen to and learn from the old-timers. We built many amazing structures in the days of t-squares, slide rules, vacuum tubes, wisdom, muscles and savvy.

The last 3 are still essential.

[Jeff N.]

Retired RN, Kaiser Permanente. Interventional Radiology, (21 years), ICU, (10 years), ER (5 years).

[kokies]

so you work for sram then?





:banana::banana::banana:



Ummm close.

Tecnical specialized packaging from Germany.


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[buddybikes]

Trade compliance officer in large tech firm. Specialize in encryption and export licensing globally. Weird thing is, business law was one of my least liked subjects in college, long long ago.

Message to youngsters in business, have global knowledge regardless of what our current govt themes are.

[Seramount]

when I was employed, was an environmental consultant doing hazwaste investigations and human health risk assessments, then a mold remediation specialist, and finished the professional thing as a regulatory compliance officer at state agency performing aquifer protection modeling.

retired now...just eff off a lot.

[54ny77]

So if a structured product is, say, super duper levered, how much cumulative default does it take to go from Campy Super Record EPS to a single speed with no chain?

:)

I manage fixed income funds and structured products. That means I judge credit risk and construct portfolios to meet return and risk goals for investors with varying goals.

To the extent the job is selecting/rejecting credit characteristics and buying and selling position weights, a computer could do that but not the way I do it. How it would do it would depend on the credit attributes programmed into it, but even I could not instruct a programmer to do exactly what I do, nor would a computer adapt to a changing world or look forward in the way a human does. More likely a computer would repeat the mistakes of the Fed (6x leverage = bad) by looking backwards and not understanding what it was seeing. Investing is in part about understanding human nature, though as computers do more and more of the trading it may become about programs anticipating other programs built off a base of prior human judgment.

[chuckroast]

Retired now but formerly an Architect on the Service Provider side and a Corporate Real Estate Director on the Client Side.

I don't think either job will ever be fully automated but they both are heavily dependent on technology today.

[T-Crush]

Everything from your friendly neighborhood restaurant to Fortune 50 multi-nationals to odd intellectual property rights cases. Almost 34 years in the profession and it's clear that a machine could handle 70% of what we do, especially work related to gift and estate tax. I've got 7-10 years left, and feel pretty safe and the profession is small enough that it should be a while until the programmers have time to focus on my little part of the commercial universe.

[junkfood]

Artist/muralist/illustrator

Jake

[Ralph]

Work at being retired (21 years now). Former private client financial advisor at Merrill Lynch for 25 years.

Ride my bike, go to gym most days usually if I don't ride (elliptical, treadmill, weights, etc), do yard work, keep pool clean, keep up with my investments, and take care of bills for a 92 year old MIL in nursing home. Don't take big investment risks anymore. Life's too short to worry and put up with the ups and downs of the stock markets, that I have no control over. I just control what I can....how I am invested and my cash flow. Don't put near as much capital at risk as I did early on in retirement. Don't need to.

And haul the grandkids around when they need a ride.

Stay about as busy as I wish. Been known to take a short nap in afternoon.

[Llewellyn]

I'm a bookkeeper/accountant for a number of clients and I'm sure I can be automated out of work to some degree, but I'm scaling back and easing into early retirement so it doesn't bother me too much.

I'm sure glad that I'm coming to the end of my career rather than beginning it because I think those people entering the workforce (or have entered it in the last 10 years or so) are going to have a vastly different working life to us who are in our 40's/50's.

[peanutgallery]

I keep bikeheads happy and fit ski boots. Jeff Bezos can't do that, unless he forgoes his pay and makes us all millionaires...then all bets are off

Had a real job once...it sucked

[1centaur]

So if a structured product is, say, super duper levered, how much cumulative default does it take to go from Campy Super Record EPS to a single speed with no chain?

:)

Let's just say the rating agencies completely misrated mortgage products because their models did not contemplate nationwide downturns in home prices but they had no such faith in non-IG credit and the structured default rates reflect that - better rating by rating than actual bond ratings have proven to be.

[doomridesout]

I just graduated law school. I'm a small town general practice litigator right now. I'm leaving to clerk for a federal judge in August, though.

[Peter B]

I just graduated law school. I'm a small town general practice litigator right now. I'm leaving to clerk for a federal judge in August, though.

Congrats Willie. Best to you in your future career endeavors!

[cmg]

Construction manager for the DoD, at one of the local Air force bases, base Architect. We can spend your money faster than you can provide it. that and we like shiny things.....

[Doug Fattic]

I have degrees in the teaching. I became a full time bicycle frame builder and painter and instructor after apprenticing in England in the 70's. Demand has shifted away from steel and liquid paint. Those taking my frame building classes now realize there is little chance for a full time future in making custom frames so just do it for fun and personal enjoyment. I used to be able to make a few bucks by selling new parts to put on a fresh repaint. I don't have to explain where that opportunity went.

In jobs unrelated to making money, I am the board chair of a 75 student 10 teacher (some part time) K-8 private school. I also do a charity project to provide pastors with bicycles in the eastern part of Ukraine now in conflict with Russia so private motorized vehicles are not allowed on the roads.

[jtakeda]

Bike messenger. Computers already took 90% of the job. I’m out here doing what’s left

[William]

Semi-retired and now a full time combative/martial arts instructor. I previously taught around being a business manager, Quality Assurance Director, glass artist, and sole proprietor. I've been pretty safe from software or jobs getting shipped overseas.








W.

[Joel]

Consumer Insights

Mainly developing, deploying and using survey data to understand how to drive products, marketing and strategy in the restaurant, retail and passenger airline businesses.

Most all at the C-Suite and Board or Directors level.

Did it in the corporate world for 30 years. Now at 58 own my own consulting business doing it all over the world. Having more fun now than ever as I'm back to practicing my craft with a very simple business model.

- Earn enough to stay out of the investment accounts
- Get as many stamps in the passport as possible
- Only work with nice people.

There you have it!

[oldpotatoe]

Bike messenger. Computers already took 90% of the job. I’m out here doing what’s left

Local guy who owns Denver-Boulder Couriers says the same thing but he says a lot of his biz these days is 'serving' summons'...type thing..you do any of that?

[OtayBW]

Let's just say the rating agencies completely misrated mortgage products because their models did not contemplate nationwide downturns in home prices but they had no such faith in non-IG credit and the structured default rates reflect that - better rating by rating than actual bond ratings have proven to be.No one saw an unrealistic bubble in home prices in ~2006-2007? I work with machine learning/neural network models (or my collaborators do....), and I would've guessed that there was tons of years of data to see and predict market trends. That's not my field, and maybe it's simplistic to suggest this, but isn't this low hanging fruit?

[echappist]

No one saw an unrealistic bubble in home prices in ~2006-2007? I work with machine learning/neural network models (or my collaborators do....), and I would've guessed that there was tons of years of data to see and predict market trends. That's not my field, and maybe it's simplistic to suggest this, but isn't this low hanging fruit?

this is probably where the following sinclair quote applies

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"

risk assessment team may tell people otherwise, but when the employees make commissions by originating and selling these loans...

[1centaur]

No one saw an unrealistic bubble in home prices in ~2006-2007? I work with machine learning/neural network models (or my collaborators do....), and I would've guessed that there was tons of years of data to see and predict market trends. That's not my field, and maybe it's simplistic to suggest this, but isn't this low hanging fruit?

I was stunned at the credulous nature with which they looked back and saw prior house price downturns being regional rather than national. Our mortgage expert went to see them after the global financial crisis and that was the big takeaway.

[OtayBW]

this is probably where the following sinclair quote applies

risk assessment team may tell people otherwise, but when the employees make commissions by originating and selling these loans...
Yep - that's a fair point.

[OtayBW]

I was stunned at the credulous nature with which they looked back and saw prior house price downturns being regional rather than national. Our mortgage expert went to see them after the global financial crisis and that was the big takeaway.You're saying that the rating agencies misrated mortgage products because they considered only regional (not nationwide) downturns in home prices? How can that be? There should have been lots of data out there (save the myopia by folks on commission as Echappist noted).

Sorry if this is a hijack....

[csm]

I work in transportation management. Currently with a carrier division that is in a dedicated model for a food and beverage company. I hope they can replace me with the internet.


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[54ny77]

Alas, but a rating is just an expression of free speech.....or so goes the defense....

I was stunned at the credulous nature with which they looked back and saw prior house price downturns being regional rather than national. Our mortgage expert went to see them after the global financial crisis and that was the big takeaway.

[1centaur]

You're saying that the rating agencies misrated mortgage products because they considered only regional (not nationwide) downturns in home prices? How can that be? There should have been lots of data out there (save the myopia by folks on commission as Echappist noted).

Sorry if this is a hijack....

Yes, I am saying that. Housing prices have mostly risen over the years in the US, and the recent prior downturns had been regional (New England and Los Angeles downturns, for example). Maybe there were national downturns way back, but many modelers overweight recent trends because the world has supposedly changed. A rating agency could theoretically assume all sorts of terrible things such that defaults never happen, but their job is to assume likely things with some margin of safety and then let investors pick their risk preference. They often, IMO, get lost in the statistics they have rather than the common sense they should have. The housing market of the mid-2000s did not look like prior housing markets so the seeds of a national downturn were there to be seen (some did) if the agencies were willing and able to look forward. AAA spreads on mortgage products blew out to LIBOR + 500 as likely default experience dawned on investors, and the financial crisis followed.

[jtakeda]

Local guy who owns Denver-Boulder Couriers says the same thing but he says a lot of his biz these days is 'serving' summons'...type thing..you do any of that?

Yup. We actually have used Denver-Boulder for some affiliate work and they were great.

I used to do more traditional work, advertising proofs, keys, blueprints, paychecks, etc. so many wild tales...rush round trips that turned out to be collecting a urine sample—delivering $$$$whisky as a Xmas gift and then having to go and “grinch” them the next day because it was sent by mistake—folks answering the door naked (regulars who know were coming).

[54ny77]

The outcome of that WAG on default probability & severity today is RMBS AAA subordination will typically have at or near a 1:1 ratio to the securitized portfolio's wtd. avg. LTV.

In other words, back in the day when deals were structured such that AAA suddenly became first loss (woops), now there is a massive overcorrection on protecting senior classes, rightly or wrongly (depending on one's view on credit).

There'd have to be a cumulative HPA decline of 30+ points, running concurrent with ridiculously high default as well as severity (esp. severity), before current deal structures implode. The pendulum has swun huuuuuugely to the conservative, which is good or bad depending on which side of the fence you sit on (buyside/sellside/origination).

I will argue till the cows come home that loans in & of themselves did not cause the crisis. It was a massive confluence of events (the laundry list of which is huge), and in my opinion principally it was the leverage in the system via the newly developed ABX market and CDO structures that multiplied the effects.

Consider some generic statistics: at the peak there was roughly $1.5 trillion of resi nonagency loans out there. At a 30% default that's $450B of busted loans. Of that $450B, let's assume wtd. avg. 65% severity (which is about where the market as a whole ended up). That's $292B of actual losses.

(As an aside, obviously there's a host of contingent liabilities associated with the initial $450B of busted paper (e.g., borrowers not making payments), which exacerbates the issue of losses, esp. since nonbank/bank servicers have to make a variety of advances to securitized bondholders for years. I'm lumping the collective advance recovery into the WA severity figure.)

In any event, in simple terms, round up and call it an ultimate $300B writeoff that could have happened had it been simply a balance sheet asset. That's after writing down the initial $450B to a mrk to market level, of course (call it ~30% of notional, which is where triple A paper was hitting).

Had that $1.5T not been subject to derivative-based structures, the leverage of which is almost incalculable, the systemic risk would not have occurred which brought down the houses. And I mean houses plural.

And now back to your regularly scheduled programming....

Yes, I am saying that. Housing prices have mostly risen over the years in the US, and the recent prior downturns had been regional (New England and Los Angeles downturns, for example). Maybe there were national downturns way back, but many modelers overweight recent trends because the world has supposedly changed. A rating agency could theoretically assume all sorts of terrible things such that defaults never happen, but their job is to assume likely things with some margin of safety and then let investors pick their risk preference. They often, IMO, get lost in the statistics they have rather than the common sense they should have. The housing market of the mid-2000s did not look like prior housing markets so the seeds of a national downturn were there to be seen (some did) if the agencies were willing and able to look forward. AAA spreads on mortgage products blew out to LIBOR + 500 as likely default experience dawned on investors, and the financial crisis followed.

[tuscanyswe]

Yup. We actually have used Denver-Boulder for some affiliate work and they were great.

I used to do more traditional work, advertising proofs, keys, blueprints, paychecks, etc. so many wild tales...rush round trips that turned out to be collecting a urine sample—delivering $$$$whisky as a Xmas gift and then having to go and “grinch” them the next day because it was sent by mistake—folks answering the door naked (regulars who know were coming).

Hey

How many ppl are you guys?
What software are you using if any for the jobs / invoicing if i may ask?

Cheers

[1centaur]

I will argue till the cows come home that loans in & of themselves did not cause the crisis. It was a massive confluence of events (the laundry list of which is huge), and in my opinion principally it was the leverage in the system via the newly developed ABX market and CDO structures that multiplied the effects.


Yup

[jtakeda]

Hey

How many ppl are you guys?
What software are you using if any for the jobs / invoicing if i may ask?

Cheers

Small company. 5 full timers and we use some ICs to fill in gaps. Invoicing is a pain and done via quickbooks/ boss-owner.

For jobs it’s the classic direct connect two way radio and your brain. No manifest no fancy app

[tuscanyswe]

Small company. 5 full timers and we use some ICs to fill in gaps. Invoicing is a pain and done via quickbooks/ boss-owner.

For jobs it’s the classic direct connect two way radio and your brain. No manifest no fancy app

Interesting, thanks!

I run a very similar set up, size wise at least.
Are you running the firm?

[choke]

I grow mushrooms. And to answer the obvious question, the type that you find on the shelf in a grocery store....Agaricus bisporus to be exact.

Mushroom farming is pretty labor intensive. They can be mechanically harvested but the result doesn't have the 'look' that consumers want so those are only used for sliced products - the majority are picked by hand. The farm that I work at employs around 225 people and there are 5 of us who do my job.

[SpokeValley]

I sell national accounts for a manufacturer of drug delivery devices (syringes, needles, etc) through distribution, OEM, and retail, in both human and veterinary markets. We are also a 503b generic pharmaceutical manufacturer.

Can I be replaced by a machine? AI perhaps, but I might be pushing up daisies by then.

Our US healthcare is the envy of the world; but, with our ridiculously complex and screwed up healthcare payment system there is a LOT of varying knowledge required and a lot of moving regulatory parts so a really smart and connected machine is entirely suitable. Whatta sidekick!

Nothing replaces a personal touch, though. And the travel is mostly OK, but the reality is that once the deals are cut, it's essentially big-data driven and on autopilot.

[Joxster]

I grow mushrooms. And to answer the obvious question, the type that you find on the shelf in a grocery store....Agaricus bisporus to be exact.

Mushroom farming is pretty labor intensive. They can be mechanically harvested but the result doesn't have the 'look' that consumers want so those are only used for sliced products - the majority are picked by hand. The farm that I work at employs around 225 people and there are 5 of us who do my job.


I worked for a vineyard in Burgandy, and all the grapes were picked by hand. It was hard bloody work but great fun. Of a team of 32 employees I was the only foreigner, the rest were French. They were paid well, 700 Euros a week

[veloduffer]

Yes, I am saying that. Housing prices have mostly risen over the years in the US, and the recent prior downturns had been regional (New England and Los Angeles downturns, for example). Maybe there were national downturns way back, but many modelers overweight recent trends because the world has supposedly changed. A rating agency could theoretically assume all sorts of terrible things such that defaults never happen, but their job is to assume likely things with some margin of safety and then let investors pick their risk preference. They often, IMO, get lost in the statistics they have rather than the common sense they should have. The housing market of the mid-2000s did not look like prior housing markets so the seeds of a national downturn were there to be seen (some did) if the agencies were willing and able to look forward. AAA spreads on mortgage products blew out to LIBOR + 500 as likely default experience dawned on investors, and the financial crisis followed.

The only data from a national housing downturn is from the Depression. All other downturns were regional.

The rating agencies had a significant modeling error due to:
- previous mortgage default and loss data was primarily based on 30-yr fixed mortgage pools and regional HPA (home pricing)
- didn't not make conservative enough adjustments for all the weaker loan collateral and borrowers (e.g. no doc mortgages, piggy-backs) and rapid rise in HPA
- significant amount of investor/speculation borrowers, which exhibit different default and loss behavior
- also the rating agencies are paid by the issuers, not the investors, so there's the inherent conflict of interest of rating a RMBS too harshly. Moreover, issuers could shop for ratings from Moody's vs. S&P vs. Fitch.

Now that corporate leverage has steadily risen and leveraged loans have exploded
(with weaker terms), the financial public (media, investors, etc) is asking whether CLOs and leveraged loans are the next subprime.

When I met with the Fed, they weren't concerned since they had pushed the banks away from making highly leveraged loans and should be safe if the bubble bursts. The regulators (nor Congress) doesn't realize that to prevent systemic risk, you don't focus regulating firms, like AIG and other significant financial institutions. The leveraged loan market has been funded by private capital (non-regulated), seizing the opportunity with the banks out of the way. To prevent systemic risk, regulation should be aimed at the market, such that it incorporates all participants.

[veloduffer]

Our US healthcare is the envy of the world; but, with our ridiculously complex and screwed up healthcare payment system there is a LOT of varying knowledge required and a lot of moving regulatory parts so a really smart and connected machine is entirely suitable.


Is it the envy? Our global ranking in healthcare is 27th and last amongst our peers. The cost is 2.5 to 3x more, and we receive less performance (e.g. infant mortality, etc), in addition to not providing universal coverage.

The Medicare Hospital Insurance Fund depletes in 2026 (barring no recession until then). And the number 1 cause for personal bankruptcy in the US is medical debt. I don't see how other countries would be envious.

[tuscanyswe]

Is it the envy? Our global ranking in healthcare is 27th and last amongst our peers. The cost is 2.5 to 3x more, and we receive less performance (e.g. infant mortality, etc), in addition to not providing universal coverage.

The Medicare Hospital Insurance Fund depletes in 2026 (barring no recession until then). And the number 1 cause for personal bankruptcy in the US is medical debt. I don't see how other countries would be envious.

Because we are not.. Its crazy to even suggest.

[Joxster]

Even the NHS has dropped down the tables, the European Health Care systems sit above us. Having experienced all of them I place the French health care system before the UK and the US

[FastforaSlowGuy]

Lawyer. Project finance for renewable energy projects. I’m sure there are chunks of what I do that could be automated, and will be. But where judgment is required (is this a risk we should worry about? how else can we contract around this issue?) machines are a long way from taking me out.


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[earlfoss]

Worked at UW Madison in research for 12 years. The most rewarding and interesting was in Dr. Kawaoka's lab. He's one of the world's leading virologists.

I work in QA at a biotech company in the Madison area. We contract with some Bay Area biotech biggies as well as make our own stuff. RUO and medical device reagents mostly.

[1centaur]

The only data from a national housing downturn is from the Depression. All other downturns were regional.

The rating agencies had a significant modeling error due to:
- previous mortgage default and loss data was primarily based on 30-yr fixed mortgage pools and regional HPA (home pricing)
- didn't not make conservative enough adjustments for all the weaker loan collateral and borrowers (e.g. no doc mortgages, piggy-backs) and rapid rise in HPA
- significant amount of investor/speculation borrowers, which exhibit different default and loss behavior
- also the rating agencies are paid by the issuers, not the investors, so there's the inherent conflict of interest of rating a RMBS too harshly. Moreover, issuers could shop for ratings from Moody's vs. S&P vs. Fitch.

Now that corporate leverage has steadily risen and leveraged loans have exploded
(with weaker terms), the financial public (media, investors, etc) is asking whether CLOs and leveraged loans are the next subprime.

When I met with the Fed, they weren't concerned since they had pushed the banks away from making highly leveraged loans and should be safe if the bubble bursts. The regulators (nor Congress) doesn't realize that to prevent systemic risk, you don't focus regulating firms, like AIG and other significant financial institutions. The leveraged loan market has been funded by private capital (non-regulated), seizing the opportunity with the banks out of the way. To prevent systemic risk, regulation should be aimed at the market, such that it incorporates all participants.

Most loans will not default, period, and CLOs are rated pretty harshly which is why no AAA tranche has ever defaulted, even in the global financial crisis. If structured finance blows up again and takes CLOs along, some warehouse pain will follow, but it will be spread around and first losses are not at the banks this time, so low systemic risk. On the other hand, over downgrading to CCC by agencies stuck on their mindless neuroticism about cov lite and loan-only structures may cause significant price volatility in both loans and CLO tranches that may crush performance in the lower tranches, which will especially hurt the hedge funds and similar that tend to fund a lot of those tranches. Much fear and loathing will happen in the press (and Twitter) and dealer desks will run away from making markets, of course, at which point a lot of money will be made because...most loans won't default. None of that is systemic, it's just cyclical, even if it won't feel good. Credit cycles never do. If the Fed tries to control cycle volatility there will be implications for average GDP growth that they may not wish to contemplate.

[veloduffer]

Most loans will not default, period, and CLOs are rated pretty harshly which is why no AAA tranche has ever defaulted, even in the global financial crisis. If structured finance blows up again and takes CLOs along, some warehouse pain will follow, but it will be spread around and first losses are not at the banks this time, so low systemic risk. On the other hand, over downgrading to CCC by agencies stuck on their mindless neuroticism about cov lite and loan-only structures may cause significant price volatility in both loans and CLO tranches that may crush performance in the lower tranches, which will especially hurt the hedge funds and similar that tend to fund a lot of those tranches. Much fear and loathing will happen in the press (and Twitter) and dealer desks will run away from making markets, of course, at which point a lot of money will be made because...most loans won't default. None of that is systemic, it's just cyclical, even if it won't feel good. Credit cycles never do. If the Fed tries to control cycle volatility there will be implications for average GDP growth that they may not wish to contemplate.

But..leveraged loans of today are different from 2008. Much more loan-only structures, higher multiples, and predominantly cov-lite issuance will mean greater loss severity and probably increased liquidations rather than Ch 11 reorg (what's the DIP financing going to lend against if there is only 1st lien and maybe 2nd lien in the structure?). Loan loss severity is around 39% currently, higher than the historical average of 28%; loss severity during the 2016 oil bust were down in 63% range. Cov-lite may stave off defaults but reduce loan recoveries. Plus, US industry is much more asset-lite, which again points to higher loss severity.

Defaults were 14% in the Financial Crisis, but could be higher due to the high leverage. If earnings weaken (as they seem to be) and given the short term refinancing need of loans (2020-2022 are big maturity years), defaults could be higher than 14%, in part due to the widespread nature of the loans (now includes many 1st time borrowers in middle market).

What if the next recession is more U-shaped in the past with 2-3 years of high defaults. We haven't had a corporate-led recession since 1989. This could also lead China into a recession. What will defaults be when the largest two economies are in recession?

Granted, CLO 2.0 structures are more robust, so it will take alot of defaults and high loss severity to pierce AAA and probably AA. But A and BBB tranches are at-risk.

[djg]

What’s my job?

Like ... prior to midnight on the 28th, when my stagecoach turned into a furlough?

[General69]

Electrical Engineer at the world's largest waste water treatment plant in Chicago. Mostly maintain equipment such as pumps, vfd's, motor control centers, and some plc programming. Unless people stop flushing, I see no end to this essential process. We have 7 plants across cook county servicing 6 million people. This plant is over 100 years old with a constant need for maintenance. It still is a place for politically connected individuals but now you at least need a degree.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Water_Reclamation_District_of_Greater _Chicago

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[old fat man]

Healthcare IT consultant and Client Success Manager.

I feel confident that AI won't replace my job in my lifetime. If my company doesn't step up and improve the software though, I won't have any clients to help succeed.

[flydhest]

Chief Economist for a global investment bank after a couple decades at the central bank and then the Treasury. I get to chuckle at the commentary on the economy and financial markets here.

[cash05458]

What a great thread and really very interesting hearing what folks here on the forum are doing...

For me, pretty much a life long academic...started studying Philo at 17 and went thru all of that til 35...I am 54 now...almost finished my PhD in Philo about 20 years ago in Belgium but got into a bad disagreement with my promoter as he was pretty much an idiot via my subject, Freud...my idealism didn't serve me well...so quit, came home and then became a mailman for usps for 12 years...burned out on that of course and left a few years ago to finish my dissertation on Freud at my same old institute which am working on now...my wife is pretty cool about that I have to say as she makes decent money as a school teacher, loves her job and is great at it... and she doesn't want me doing **** I don't love plus we have kept our lives very simple by living in a small place we love and for hardly any money...when done, will teach a philo course or two a year for a lil extra cash...or maybe not if I don't feel like it.

[steelbikerider]

Jumior High (Texas History) teacher - year 34 - just 1 more.

[Tandem Rider]

HVACR service guy. Currently doing supermarket refrigeration, don't see that going away from hands on. Someone has to go put hands and eyes on it to actually fix something. Much of it is controlled electronically and some remotely, sometimes the remote monitor even has a correct diagnosis. The job will be here as long as humans are no longer hunter/gatherers living hand to mouth.

[dave thompson]

Five years retired now. For the last few years I was a corporate weenie for a major supermarket chain but for the majority of my 'career' I was in sales. I sold cars, motorcycles (wound up owning a shop), airplanes and wholesale firearms. Other stuff too but after nearly 60 years of selling, there's stuff I forget.

I loved sales, it gave me the freedom I liked, the ability to be unconventional when necessary, led me to interact with some really interesting people and allowed me to travel.

I now live in Mexico because it's the fun side of the wall.

[Clean39T]

What a great thread and really very interesting hearing what folks here on the forum are doing...


I'll second that.

It is amazing how diverse (at least occupationally) of a population our little niche within a niche can bring together.

[Polyglot]

I used to spend over 200 days a year in hotels, making at least 100 international flights per year, traveling the world. When 9/11 happened, I was in Korea and couldn't get home for a couple of weeks until US airspace opened up. With two young tots at home, I decided that did not align with my priorities and decided to change profession.

I now work for myself from home as a translator, most often dealing with intellectual property (patents and IP litigation) and contracts. To get out of the house, I also take on interpreting assignments from time to time, mostly depositions.

I had once thought that translation work would quickly be replaced by computers but am now more certain than ever that I will be long retired before computers can handle the more complex topics that I handle.

[ceolwulf]

I used to spend over 200 days a year in hotels, making at least 100 international flights per year, traveling the world. When 9/11 happened, I was in Korea and couldn't get home for a couple of weeks until US airspace opened up. With two young tots at home, I decided that did not align with my priorities and decided to change profession.

I now work for myself from home as a translator, most often dealing with intellectual property (patents and IP litigation) and contracts. To get out of the house, I also take on interpreting assignments from time to time, mostly depositions.

I had once thought that translation work would quickly be replaced by computers but am now more certain than ever that I will be long retired before computers can handle the more complex topics that I handle.

Interested to hear this as I'm slowly working on getting into translation myself.

For now, trained as a mechanical engineer but never found it fulfilling in any real way, failed attempt to get into furniture design, now basically just a CAD monkey, designing heavy equipment. Don't enjoy any part of it. No real way to automate the job out of existence, anyway. I would like to build frames though, always found that interesting but it seems like a really tough way to make a living.

Resolution for next year is to finish getting my Japanese to a professionally usable level, and at least get a good start on adding French to my repertoire as well, basically to open doors to government work here in Canada as it's required for most things.

[SlowPokePete]

I'm a teacher.

Six years of 2nd grade.

Sixteen years of Kindergarten.

In my second year of teaching 5th grade (how I got there is known as an "involuntary transfer").

Started out as an accountant, earned an MBA, stayed in the "business world" for five years before making a career change.

Would like to retire early in the next year or two...thinking about a third career in pencil sharpening...

SPP

[djg]

Chief Economist for a global investment bank after a couple decades at the central bank and then the Treasury. I get to chuckle at the commentary on the economy and financial markets here.

If you can chuckle, I’m relieved.

[biker72]

Almost 40 years at the same company as a electronic-antenna tech. Built and tested antennas from HF models to satellite communication dishes.

After retirement I've worked at a local community college computer lab, internet company, for the city taking care of plants,Cisco Systems subcontractor taking care of shipping and receiving and finally been working at a bike shop for the last 12.5 years. Gotta keep moving at my age....:)

[rzthomas]

I work at The University of Alabama as a director of marketing and communications. Roll Tide.

Pretty sure no robot can replace me, but you never know.

[parris]

Rz my wife works at Binghamton University as and I'm going to screw up her title... Assistant Director of Communications. She supports the pharmacy and nursing schools as well as some other projects.

[oldpotatoe]

Chief Economist for a global investment bank after a couple decades at the central bank and then the Treasury. I get to chuckle at the commentary on the economy and financial markets here.

Because of your palmares..enlighten us..:)

[oldpotatoe]

I used to spend over 200 days a year in hotels, making at least 100 international flights per year, traveling the world. When 9/11 happened, I was in Korea and couldn't get home for a couple of weeks until US airspace opened up. With two young tots at home, I decided that did not align with my priorities and decided to change profession.

I now work for myself from home as a translator, most often dealing with intellectual property (patents and IP litigation) and contracts. To get out of the house, I also take on interpreting assignments from time to time, mostly depositions.

I had once thought that translation work would quickly be replaced by computers but am now more certain than ever that I will be long retired before computers can handle the more complex topics that I handle.

Languages?

Just curious
"I speak 2 languages, american and bad american"..

-Korben Dallas, Fifth Element

[Hellgate]

Two careers, retired Army National Guard - 20 years, eight which was active duty, Desert Storm thru OIF.

Real career is corporate training within the semiconductor industry. Currently managing a talent development/organization development team at large multinational.

With my GI Bill set to expire in several years, I started a second Masters at Penn State in January. It's been fun going back to school after 23 years, albeit virtual, but it's really cut into my miles.

[fmradio516]

I do computer networking (technically the title is "Cloud Engineer") for a large remote desktop/screen-sharing/online meeting software company.

[Nooch]

I work for a payroll processing company, but my role at this point is mainly as a relationship manager. When things go wrong (usually by my client's hand), I help them fix it from a technical side, and help them sort out things with the IRS and state agencies.

At night, I wait tables -- sadly I'm damn good at it (sadly because the restaurant I'm at is a pool-house, so when I bring in $500 in tips and someone else brings in $195, we both take home $240...) but they work with my schedule and I can't really complain about the money. The hours, on the other hand, are starting to take their toll on me.

I don't think I'm being replaced any time soon. Until the client wants to take full responsibility, they need me. And until we start dropping food on tables with drones and ordering with iPads, they need me. But, who knows?

[AngryScientist]

And until we start dropping food on tables with drones and ordering with iPads, they need me. But, who knows?

have you been to Newark Airport lately, terminal C?

[Nooch]

have you been to Newark Airport lately, terminal C?

I don't go near EWR. I'm a jetblue, JFK T5 lifer.

[AngryScientist]

I don't go near EWR. I'm a jetblue, JFK T5 lifer.

Similarly, i never use JFK, but they may be the same. post upgrade (like many big airports) - all the food "restaurants" in TC have gone to the no waiter sytle, order with ipad, including all the bars. i HATE it.

[OtayBW]

I do computer networking (technically the title is "Cloud Engineer") for a large remote desktop/screen-sharing/online meeting software company.
Hmmm...I'm guessing 'Go-To-Webex', right?

[YoKev]

Professional Land Surveyor

[roguedog]

Project manager for high tech company. Been doing it for awhile in and out of different start ups and large companies. Kinda cool to have been watching the development of the bleeding edge.

[Polyglot]

Languages?

Just curious
"I speak 2 languages, american and bad american"..

-Korben Dallas, Fifth Element

Dutch, French, German, Italian into English
Dutch, French, German, English into Italian

I could in theory also handle Spanish but in the US there is a surfeit of Spanish linguists.

Interested to hear this as I'm slowly working on getting into translation myself.

For now, trained as a mechanical engineer but never found it fulfilling in any real way, failed attempt to get into furniture design, now basically just a CAD monkey, designing heavy equipment. Don't enjoy any part of it. No real way to automate the job out of existence, anyway. I would like to build frames though, always found that interesting but it seems like a really tough way to make a living.

Resolution for next year is to finish getting my Japanese to a professionally usable level, and at least get a good start on adding French to my repertoire as well, basically to open doors to government work here in Canada as it's required for most things.

Japanese is always in demand, as is French in Canada (only if your French is perfect however). I work with my wife who has been translating for more than 30 years, we proof each other's work, making a great team. I wouldn't want to work alone. We work as much or as little as we want. Given the number of assignments that we turn down, if we were willing to nearly kill ourselves, and do nothing more than work, we could likely double our income. We could live off of German assignments alone given their number, but that is our least favorite combination, so we end up turning 75% of those assignments down.

[fmradio516]

Hmmm...I'm guessing 'Go-To-Webex', right?

Those are two different companies. and I will not confirm or deny. :)

[OtayBW]

Those are two different companies. and I will not confirm or deny. :)HAR! Plausible deniability! OK! [emoji16]

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[Jaybee]

Dutch, French, German, Italian into English
Dutch, French, German, English into Italian

I could in theory also handle Spanish but in the US there is a surfeit of Spanish linguists.



Japanese is always in demand, as is French in Canada (only if your French is perfect however). I work with my wife who has been translating for more than 30 years, we proof each other's work, making a great team. I wouldn't want to work alone. We work as much or as little as we want. Given the number of assignments that we turn down, if we were willing to nearly kill ourselves, and do nothing more than work, we could likely double our income. We could live off of German assignments alone given their number, but that is our least favorite combination, so we end up turning 75% of those assignments down.

Sorry in advance for thread-drift...

Is English your native language?

At what age did you start learning other languages?

[tuscanyswe]

Dutch, French, German, Italian into English
Dutch, French, German, English into Italian

I could in theory also handle Spanish but in the US there is a surfeit of Spanish linguists.



Japanese is always in demand, as is French in Canada (only if your French is perfect however). I work with my wife who has been translating for more than 30 years, we proof each other's work, making a great team. I wouldn't want to work alone. We work as much or as little as we want. Given the number of assignments that we turn down, if we were willing to nearly kill ourselves, and do nothing more than work, we could likely double our income. We could live off of German assignments alone given their number, but that is our least favorite combination, so we end up turning 75% of those assignments down.

Well that explains your username then. I even learned a word as i had to look "glot" up.

[spiderman]

I serve as the medical director for an urgent care
Where I do primary care...once I finish my charting
I close the computer and don’t get online if I can help it...
While people still want to make a meaningful connection
With a real person I think the virtual
Doctor trend will probably not usurp me
Before I’m ready to step away from day to day practice...

[PacNW2Ford]

Civil Engineer Project Manager for all modes of transportation projects.

[Hardlyrob]

I run a boutique consulting firm with 3 other partners.

We help small and mid-sized chain restaurants figure out who their consumer is. We also work with food manufacturers as they are trying to figure out chain restaurants. Finally, we work with private equity firms when they are buying a food manufacturer or a chain restaurant.

Some of the consumer research we do could be automated (all the quant is on line today), but translating research data into strategy is a long way off for AI - so not likely we will have to bow to our digital overlords for as long as my firm will exist.

Sounds like what Joel and I do overlap quite a bit.

Rob

[MerckxMad]

I’m a lawyer for a large metro health care system.

I’m sure there’s a way to replace me with the Internet, but my bosses haven’t figured it out yet and the finance bros are busy playing with shiny things.

[everbeek]

Academic neuropharmacologist. My lab attempts to validate novel molecular and cellular targets for new drug development for major psychiatric illnesses. We also focus on developing ways of optimizing current treatments for individual patients.
-Mike

[Davist]

Global head of technology for data center solutions (in our case power and automation on facilities side, not IT) work for a large European electrical engineering company who (back to OP) is also a leading supplier of robots. This fall got a chance to go to our new factory in Xiamen, CN and yes, the robots now make the robots...

Love the job, plenty of travel and interesting discussions with all the name brand and up and coming companies, business is booming as you'd guess.

[Irishgirl]

I work for a boutique forensic engineering firm that reports on why/how stuff blew up, why something failed or how a catastrophe impacted a structure. I’m in the insurance industry and work with insurance adjusters and attorneys. I negotiate, update, communicate, support, guide, instruct, analyze, strategize, and do a lot of listening. I travel a bit and see people and places at their worst.

If they figure out how to make robots compassionate and empathetic then I’ll welcome the opportunity to spend a lot more time on my bike traveling to different places.

[XXtwindad]

I work for a boutique forensic engineering firm that reports on why/how stuff blew up, why something failed or how a catastrophe impacted a structure. I’m in the insurance industry and work with insurance adjusters and attorneys. I negotiate, update, communicate, support, guide, instruct, analyze, strategize, and do a lot of listening. I travel a bit and see people and places at their worst.

If they figure out how to make robots compassionate and empathetic then I’ll welcome the opportunity to spend a lot more time on my bike traveling to different places.

Interesting. Not sure what that scenario would portend...

[gforce]

Architectural photographer. I wouldn't say computers could take over my job because I consider my work interpretive.
I will say it has been effected by the computer/photoshop as new photographers have come up with little photography knowledge but can get by with "fixing" sloppy work with PS skills.
I also have some real estate and dabble with investing.

[sjbraun]

Registered Nurse, 15 years in critical care and 15 in various management roles. Currently work at the VA hospital i Tucson where I oversee nursing care delivered in eight patient care units. I spend my days trying to figure out how we can better serve Veterans. And I retire at the end of the month. :hello:

[Polyglot]

Sorry in advance for thread-drift...

Is English your native language?

At what age did you start learning other languages?

My parents spoke English and Dutch at home, however predominantly English. I lived to France between the ages of 10 and 12 and went to school in French there, returned to Canada and went to bilingual (English/French) schools and university. Learned Spanish in high school and during two summer stays in Mexico. Upon graduation from university, went to work first in Belgium, then 4 years in Germany and then a decade in Italy. Apart from Belgium, I was always the only foreigner in each work environment, so I learned the German and Italian in a full immersion situation.

[pjm]

Registered Nurse, 15 years in critical care and 15 in various management roles. Currently work at the VA hospital i Tucson where I oversee nursing care delivered in eight patient care units. I spend my days trying to figure out how we can better serve Veterans. And I retire at the end of the month. :hello:

Nurses are the most wonderful people in the world!:)

[cloudguy]

nurses are the most wonderful people in the world!:)

+1000

-Way better than doctors.

[old fat man]

Those are two different companies. and I will not confirm or deny. :)


Gotomeeting, or Logmein is just outside Boston. I use goto every day. Not a huge fan but it's better than Skype meetings.

I noticed the PM job listed is working with AI tech. Our days are numbered...

[sailorboy]

Physical Therapist; retired Navy after 24 years active, now senior clinical manager in a VA system rehab service.

Could internet replace me? Hmm, not fully, but the medical/insurance industry sure seems to be trying to minimize how much PT they want to pay for anymore. Kind of why I searched for something Federal upon my retirement.

TBH, I'd love to do something else altogether. Anyone starting a boutique bike shop looking for a dude who is into bikes and can make a cup of coffee and/or pour beers?

[Llewellyn]

Nurses are the most wonderful people in the world!:)

They certainly are - I'm married to one :banana:

[jlwdm]

Residential real estate sales the last 20+ years after a first career as an attorney.

Jeff

[Hakkalugi]

My day job is lighting design, from corporate campuses to custom residential to parking lots. I’ve been at it since compact fluorescents were the new kid on the block. I know more about lightbulbs and dimmers than any sane person should. Along with it I coached alpine ski racing for 20 years and was on the crew for a couple hundred World Cup and Olympic races. I gave that up and now I spend a few hours a week throwing suitcases around a local airport. It’s not glamorous but my bike and I fly for free to many places for interesting rides, and I no longer eat frozen sandwiches.

[DaveS]

I’m in R&D innovation for a large medical devices company. Big R/little D, I.e I spend most of my time working on very early stage opportunities that are high risk / high reward. Not in the lab anymore, but still get to keep some of my technical skills sharp.


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[maxn]

Scientist at the European Synchrotron Radiation Facility (http://www.esrf.eu). I work on an instrument that delivers highly focused and intense X-rays out of the ring (well, out of things called undulators) to crystals, in order to determine atomic structures of molecules. It's generally basic research, but quite useful for drug development as well. We use a lot of robotics and software, and a lot of what was done manually a few years ago is now done automatically, but no... probably not replaceable by a robot or software.

[C40_guy]

Sales enablement for a large software company. I work with our inside sales organization, helping them to sell better (i.e., focus on the customer and help solve business problems).

Yea, you'd recognize the name. Company has been in the relational database business for a while. :)

[jay023]

Field service engineer for medical imaging systems. In real words, a glorified mechanic for PET/CT scanners and nuclear cameras. My specialty is in cardiac imaging environments

[Red Tornado]

My official job title is Tooling Engineer. I design tools (maybe "machine tools" would be a better description) that are used in cold & warm forming machines to make specialty fasteners. In a perfect world I would either design, improve or troubleshoot problems with these tools and that would be it. But, alas, it's not a perfect world.

I believe a more accurately descriptive job title would be Project Engineer. I do a lot of work justifying/installing/commissioning capital equipment purchases, help oversee in-house rebuilds, perform design work for maintenance projects (operator platforms/catwalks/stairs, machine guarding) and also work with our Environmental-Health-Safety department when needed. All this in addition to never-ending machine tool work. But it sure beats the alternative.....

A lot of the tooling design work, for the industry in general, has shifted to Asia along with production and we have had difficulty in recent years on-boarding engineers with even a reasonable amount of cold/warm forming experience. Most of my engineering contacts that do the same type of work as I, both within and outside of our company, are guys generally in their 40's and older (I am 51). A vendor remarked several years ago that cold forming designers seem to be a dying breed in the U.S., at least. I believe most of that has to do with the production shift of commodity fasteners off shore.

We however, make specialty fasteners that are actually becoming more in demand the last few years and the facility I work at is one of the most profitable in the company. Hopefully these will allow myself and colleagues to remain employed long enough to retire.

[xnetter]

I'm a communications officer for the Attorney General here in British Columbia. Interesting work but it is government so hardly the most innovative or high-paying employer on Earth. If you are unsure about what line of work you want to be in and just want decent, stable work, government is a good place to be. Lately I've been contemplating a move into the tech content writing sphere, as West Coast living is $$$$.

[echelon_john]

Marketing guy here, with a focus on tech/cloud/SaaS. English major, started in copywriting/creative direction, grew into more strategic roles and am moving into a new gig with an AI-based fraud detection solution for the insurance industry after working for a Brazilian CDN reseller for the last 4+ years. Branding, lead gen, corp communications, product marketing, social/SEO/SEM, events, content creation, inside sales training, and whatever else needs doing! : )

[buddybikes]

Imagine the "new" bike company that could be created, distributed and sold with this brainpower. Someone could walk into a shop, be laser fitted, and bike make on the spot as he watches it get made. (this dream has been in my head for last 30+ years, well minus the laser fitting)

[saf-t]

Industrial Hygienist (no, I do not check people's teeth or nails).

Do my best to make sure that folks go home from work every day standing up, and not having been exposed to anything that's likely to kill or maim them.

Be tough to replace me with a computer.....

[Steve in SLO]

+1000

-Way better than doctors.

Grrr...
But you’re right.

[wkeller79]

Construction Estimator for commercial projects (union).

13 years thus far and feels fairly safe against being replaced :)

[William]

My day job is lighting design, from corporate campuses to custom residential to parking lots. I’ve been at it since compact fluorescents were the new kid on the block. I know more about lightbulbs and dimmers than any sane person should. ...

Spent quite a few years in the lighting industry working for a company with an eighty year history and reputation for quality design and craftsmanship. Also watched that same company feel forced to make the switch from manufacturing in-house to going over seas to China...and watched it all go down the drain in a few short years. Sad indeed.






William

[texbike]

I'm a cybersecurity consultant that helps organizations develop, implement, and run security programs to protect their data and assets and meet whichever regulatory requirements impact them.

Our entire industry is working toward the automation of monitoring for potential incidents and rapidly responding to them. It's a fast moving game and there just aren't enough practitioners with the skills or bandwidth to adequately and effectively address the threats in a timely manner without the automated tools to do so. The unemployment rate in cybersecurity is effectively zero at this point and the industry in general can't find enough talent to fill open positions.

I'm currently working for one of the larger entities in the space but would like to start my own practice that focuses on smaller organizations that are under the same regulatory drivers and face the same threats, but are usually ignored by companies like my current employer due to their size.

Texbike

[merlinmurph]

I thought there would be a lot more software geeks than we have.

Saying that, I'm a software geek, specifically mainframe system software written in assembler language. Two years ago, after 18 years and a lot of thought, I took a package from EMC Corp (now Dell/EMC) and am semi-retired. I do some contract work for a company now and am always looking around. Meanwhile, we bought our ski passes and are getting our days in.

[FlashUNC]

Professional email sender.

[Lewis Moon]

Aquatic toxicologist

[Mzilliox]

+1000

-Way better than doctors.

ouch...
Can't we leave it at some people are not that great and others are amazing? it has nothing to do with being left or right, doctor or nurse, man or woman, black or white. this kind of thinking is seen as harmless, but its supremely ignorant and destructive. I think patients are way worse than doctors and nurses. the sense of entitlement is astounding. someone (patient) spends their entire life crapping on themselves contrary to all evidence, then get mad at someone who spent their entire life figuring out how to help you in your own issues.
i think folks who like to pile it on to doctors are biting hands which feed them and not taking any responsibility for their own health, but that's just ones mans opinion on the topic. i think anything less than "thank you" is pathetic and selfish. oh you hurt some after surgery? booo hoo, be happy to be alive.

[seanile]

i think anything less than "thank you" is pathetic and selfish. oh you hurt some after surgery? booo hoo, be happy to be alive.

well that's extreme. what happened to not being left/right, black/white?

[Mzilliox]

nothing to add

[pobrien]

It feels like I stepped into the end of a very strange movie! am confused...

[NHAero]

Mechanical engineer with 40 years in high performance building design and consulting. Making buildings more comfortable, healthy, and durable while reducing energy usage and overall environmental impact.

Also do a fair bit of building forensics - what's causing the problem being presented, and how is it most expediently solved.

As a number of people here observed, endeavors that are most successful when good judgement is exercised are unlikely to be replaced by AI or robots anytime soon. I welcome the day when investigations into crawl spaces, kneewall spaces, and attics are performed by robots who come back and tell me what they see! Happy to turn in my kneepads and respirator mask.

[livingminimal]

I run a medium-sized Human Services Non-Profit, working with folks that are housing-challenged and poor.

[benadrian]

I design guitar/bass amps and electronics.

[gasman]

Anesthesiologist-hence the user name.

I'm a geek, just not a software geek.

I pass gas and sit on soft stools :eek: (old joke, sorry)

AI can make bad jokes and there may be a way to computerize more of what I do but I hope not everything as I think having personal interactions with patients is so important. Most people are anxious before surgery, I enjoy being there for them.

I'm amazed at the wide variety of things that people do for a living-some professions I didn't even know existed but they make sense.

[livingminimal]

AI can make bad jokes and there may be a way to computerize more of what I do but I hope not everything as I think having personal interactions with patients is so important. Most people are anxious before surgery, I enjoy being there for them.



Honestly, the interaction with you folks, being early in on the surgery, can make or break a patient experience in so many ways. It's awesome to see you acknowledge the anxiety and fear and want to do something to help with that piece of it.

[54ny77]

Cool! I got totally absorbed watching Janek Gwizdala videos this past weekend, Aguilar amps has a cool video series on YouTube.

I design guitar/bass amps and electronics.

[FlashUNC]

Anesthesiologist-hence the user name.

I'm a geek, just not a software geek.

I pass gas and sit on soft stools :eek: (old joke, sorry)

AI can make bad jokes and there may be a way to computerize more of what I do but I hope not everything as I think having personal interactions with patients is so important. Most people are anxious before surgery, I enjoy being there for them.

I'm amazed at the wide variety of things that people do for a living-some professions I didn't even know existed but they make sense.

My anesthesiologist before my elbow surgery was probably the most delightful person I'd ever met. And that wasn't just the morphine talking. Looked down at my chart, said "Oh, you're going to get the good stuff." Proceeded to give me some neon pink liquid to drink. Woke up 7 hours later.

Truly delightful man.

[robertbb]

retired.

you'd have to develop a computer that can ride a bike, swim laps, work in the yard, and go to lunch/happy hours with friends...

I wanna be you! :help:

[bob59]

Recently retired airline pilot after 30 years. When I started all the equipment had a crew of 3. Now we are down to 2. They now have the technology for 0. They are testing 747's flying over the ocean now with just boxes and operators at remote stations monitoring, so it is just a matter of time. Getting Joe Public on board may take a few extra years.

Currently working as a Volunteer Youth Cycling Director for the community I live in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65UzmQi2aww

[skiezo]

Union pipefitter/welder. I doubt that a robot will be able to climb in pipe racks and in and out of steam tunnels and some of the other areas that we have to get into.
They do make some machines that we call push button weldors. They are mainly used for phara/process SS piping but still needs a human to set up the parameters,do all the layout,cut and fit it all together.
If my eyes stay semi good Ill be retiring in about 7 or 8 years.
We have a solid pension program,annuity,and I have been maxing out a roth IRA for the last 15+ years.

In the summer I also do some guiding for small mouth bass on my local rivers out of kayaks. I love being on the water and like teaching other how to read the water,where to fish and and love to see the young ones catch fish and explain the importance of catch and release fishing. Just being on the water and seeing all the bald eagles,ospreys,river otters,beavers and other wildlife can be just as relaxing as being on the bike.

[Louis]

I design guitar/bass amps and electronics.

Cool.

The BIL of a good buddy of mine works at Universal Audio making software simulations of the old analog studio stuff.

[skiezo]

Maintenance electrician for Harley Davidson. I work on all the equipment that replaces people, robotic welders, cutting lasers, automated guided carts...
I remember working in the old plant when people sat in booths welding up gas tanks and frames and such. Then they built the new plant and most of the welding went automated.
I installed all the piping for the new paint system in the new plant a long time ago.

[skiezo]

Nurses are the most wonderful people in the world!:)

I have to agree, I am married to one of the clinical head nurses at the hershey medical center heart and vascular ICU.

[benadrian]

Cool.

The BIL of a good buddy of mine works at Universal Audio making software simulations of the old analog studio stuff.

Very cool, That's what I do most of the time, but for Line 6.
Cheers!

[oldpotatoe]

Recently retired airline pilot after 30 years.

Didja do it the 'hard way' or 'easy way'...ie..civilian from Cessna 150-airline(hard way) or military flying first(easier way)?

[bob59]

"Didja do it the 'hard way' or 'easy way'...ie..civilian from Cessna 150-airline(hard way) or military flying first(easier way)? "

Both, took flying lessons when I was a kid. I got hooked on flying vice weed (it was the 70's) so i could never afford to buy dope.

[azrider]

"Didja do it the 'hard way' or 'easy way'...ie..civilian from Cessna 150-airline(hard way) or military flying first(easier way)? "

Both, took flying lessons when I was a kid. I got hooked on flying vice weed (it was the 70's) so i could never afford to buy dope.

Sweet Phantom! (and sweet short shorts :p)

Thanks for your service

[Gsinill]

I thought there would be a lot more software geeks than we have.

Saying that, I'm a software geek, specifically mainframe system software written in assembler language.

Cool, add me to the list.
Studied CS in college, majoring in mainframe development.
Did Assembler programming for a few years before I got the opportunity to move to the "cutting edge", i.e. Cobol (LOL).
Several other jobs as developer, now for the last decade working as enterprise architect in the ERP space.
Being kind of the translator between business and IT, I don't foresee my job being taken over by AI - at least not before I retire...

Great and interesting thread!

[ScottW]

Scientist in R&D at a biotech company. Expertise in molecular biology & genetics/genomics, not doing bench work anymore but I work on most other aspects of next-gen sequencing product development- early tech/method evaluation, market size & competitor analysis, designing targeted sequencing panels, and developing specs for the software coders. I also handle custom design requests from academic/govt/pharma labs, write the occasional product description for the website, and prepare info for sales & marketing.

Replaceable by robot/AI? Not likely, at least not within the next couple of decades before I retire.

[notsew]

City manager, I don’t worry about tech replacing me. I worry about politicians.

I'm the budget manager for a city. I work closely enough with politicians to be ensured of never being replaced by a robot and far enough away to be ensured of never being replaced by a politician.

[Ozz]

Sweet Phantom! (and sweet short shorts :p)

Thanks for your service

I would guess A-4 Skyhawk....still sweet. Wing mounted cannon, no splitter plate on air intake.

;)

[merlinmurph]

Did Assembler programming for a few years before I got the opportunity to move to the "cutting edge", i.e. Cobol (LOL).

HA! I went the other way - trained in COBOL first, then decided I didn't care about life insurance apps and liked the geekiness of assembler. Developing programming tools and working with the I/O subsystem was more fun for me.
Learned one of the oddest skillsets out there: Knowing how to send channel commands to mainframe I/O devices. Now that's geeky.

[azrider]

I work for a Large Software Reseller, and help niche Service Providers embed solutions like analytics, AI, and IOT from a major OEM software company into their proprietary offering instead of building it out themselves.

I work in sales and sales can always be replaced.

[Red Tornado]

I would guess A-4 Skyhawk....still sweet. Wing mounted cannon, no splitter plate on air intake.

;)

+1 the wing root cannon plus looking at the rear landing gear you can tell it's not a Phantom.

[likebikes]

after burning out of 10 years' or so worth of bicycle industry/related industry work, been un/underemployed for the better part of the last decade, just trying to stay afloat at this moment.

[C40_guy]

I work in sales and sales can always be replaced.

Sales can be replaced. Relationships cannot. If you have strong relationships with customers and prospects, you will always be employable.

Had a coaching call with a new inside sales person this week and discussed the value of building relationships that outlive specific employment situations. Hopefully that will keep him from employing the typical "spray and pray" approach. :)

[MrDangerPants]

Bureaucrat.

[TREEfool]

I was a paramedic for 5 years and when I decided to leave that career field I researched which jobs are least likely to be replaced by robots and computers. I am now an electrician, a youtuber, and run a small climbing and bikepacking gear business. Don't keep all your eggs in one basket ;)