road link and campy

[R3awak3n]

anyone have tried a wolf tooth road link with campy?

I am going to put a 11-36 cassette in the back.

I had a subcompact with a 32T in the back, was great. 1 to 1. But now on this bike i have a compact and a 32T and would love some lower gearing. Have a mid cage potenza in the back which could probably deal fine with a 34T cassette but decided why not go one further and put a 36.

I will have 2 wheels on this bike, road wheel will still have a 32T cassette because I want to keep the gears tigher in the low end, and just will not need the big cassette. The question is, can I leave the road link on the bike? or will I have to remove it when going from a 36T cassete back down to a 32T?

[palincss]

anyone have tried a wolf tooth road link with campy?

I am going to put a 11-36 cassette in the back.

I had a subcompact with a 32T in the back, was great. 1 to 1. But now on this bike i have a compact and a 32T and would love some lower gearing. Have a mid cage potenza in the back which could probably deal fine with a 34T cassette but decided why not go one further and put a 36.

I will have 2 wheels on this bike, road wheel will still have a 32T cassette because I want to keep the gears tigher in the low end, and just will not need the big cassette. The question is, can I leave the road link on the bike? or will I have to remove it when going from a 36T cassete back down to a 32T?

I think given it's Campagnolo, a company that ought to know its business when it comes to desigining derailleurs, we can be sure that the derailleur in question has been optimized for its current location and sprocket size.

Road link isn't magic; it's basically a drop bolt for derailleurs, to move them down to make room for a larger rear sprocket. That deviation from the optimized position has got to have some associated cost in terms of sub-optimal performance. The cost may be small and the benefit of the larger sprocket may be great enough to make it all worthwhile -- we pretty much have to assume Wolf Tooth knows its business too -- but incurring the cost of moving the derailleur to a sub-optimal position without any corresponding benefit (i.e., using the smaller large sprocket without moving the derailleur back to the position chosen to be optimum for that sprocket) doesn't make any sense to me.

[Lionel]

Yes it works.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4377/36772406982_95772458bd_h.jpg

[DrSpoke]

Very nice ride!

Yes it works.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4377/36772406982_95772458bd_h.jpg

[hummus_aquinas]

Not sure if this is super relevant, but here's my long cage 10 speed record, road link, 11-40t sunrace cassette. This particular set up actually shifted OK.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/351/31634542146_1902656d7f_c.jpg

[palincss]

Yes, but it fails to address the OP's question. It's not surprising it works OK -- Wolf Tooth does seem to know its business, after all -- but the question is, if you removed that wheel and substituted one with the original 11-32 cassette, how would it shift then?

[R3awak3n]

thank you. Good to know it works but would love to know how well does it work?

Specially Lionels setup since its closer to what my setup will be. 11 speed campy. What size cassette is on there?

[BassoBry]

thank you. Good to know it works but would love to know how well does it work?

Specially Lionels setup since its closer to what my setup will be. 11 speed campy. What size cassette is on there?

11spd is best because of closeness of pull ratios. What palincss is saying about "optimization" shouldn't discourage you. You can still set b-tension with a roadlink to have the pulleys in their optimal position. Depending on the size of your chainrings up front, I wouldn't be surprised if a campy med cage 11 cleared an 11-36 without a roadlink.

[Lionel]

thank you. Good to know it works but would love to know how well does it work?

Specially Lionels setup since its closer to what my setup will be. 11 speed campy. What size cassette is on there?

SRAM 11-36. It works well. Not as crisp as without it and a proper campy cassette but good enough to not worry about it at all.

[R3awak3n]

11spd is best because of closeness of pull ratios. What palincss is saying about "optimization" shouldn't discourage you. You can still set b-tension with a roadlink to have the pulleys in their optimal position. Depending on the size of your chainrings up front, I wouldn't be surprised if a campy med cage 11 cleared an 11-36 without a roadlink.

it does clear and work fine with 11-36. there is a thread on weight weenies about it but for piece of mind I will use the road link, they are cheap so might as well. I am fine if the shifting is 95% great instead of 100 and the ratio will help me out on a few crazy rides I want to do next year. The 34-32 is not going to cut it, I want at least 1-1 (I would put a 34T cassette on campy without a road link and not be worried about that one)

SRAM 11-36. It works well. Not as crisp as without it and a proper campy cassette but good enough to not worry about it at all.

thank you. same cassette I bought I bet, the 1170. Good to know it works good enough. Will set it up in the next few weeks.

[slowpoke]

thank you. same cassette I bought I bet, the 1170. Good to know it works good enough. Will set it up in the next few weeks.

please come back and let us know how it goes! i can always use a lower gear ratio.

[R3awak3n]

please come back and let us know how it goes! i can always use a lower gear ratio.

All parts have been purchased so maybe I will get it working during xmas break and report back

[Clean39T]

As long as it gets from gear to gear and stays aligned when in that gear, I don't care how slowly it shifts...it's not like these are crit-racing setups, or being shifted under a 500W load in a rotating paceline...

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[fa63]

I tried to put one on today with a Campy Chorus 11 RD. I couldn't get the shifting dialed in to my liking, so I took it off after trying for about 30 min. I was surprised because I have had it work like a champ on an Ultegra 6800 RD before.

[R3awak3n]

I tried to put one on today with a Campy Chorus 11 RD. I couldn't get the shifting dialed in to my liking, so I took it off after trying for about 30 min. I was surprised because I have had it work like a champ on an Ultegra 6800 RD before.

was it a mid cage campy?


just saw this youtube video, I might not even need the road link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpjr7gX1vFc


I also am probably going to go 46-34 on the crank but that guy has a compact and says its working perfectly.

[fa63]

was it a mid cage campy?


No, short cage Chorus RD.

[R3awak3n]

No, short cage Chorus RD.

ok thats good to know, I still have hope

[Clean39T]

Update?

I'm about to do 11/36 SunRace with 34/50 and Med Cage Centaur w a Road Link - wondering if I should just go to 11/40 and have #allthegears - or if that's a bridge too far...

[Duende]

was it a mid cage campy?


just saw this youtube video, I might not even need the road link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpjr7gX1vFc


I also am probably going to go 46-34 on the crank but that guy has a compact and says its working perfectly.

I was thinking this would work. Wonder how much chain slap there is though. Especially for gravel where you really need the 1:1 ratio

[AngryScientist]

Update?

I'm about to do 11/36 SunRace with 34/50 and Med Cage Centaur w a Road Link - wondering if I should just go to 11/40 and have #allthegears - or if that's a bridge too far...

no bueno with that RD. you wont have enough chainwrap to have any chain tension at the lower end of the cassette in the 34 if you also attempt to allow for the big/big with the 40. the 36 is going to be marginal.

[AngryScientist]

i had this set-up with a 38 front ring and 11-40 in the back. same mid cage RD and a roadlink. there was barely any chain tension at the lower end of the cassette, so doing the same with a 34 in front would be the suck.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cOvu_zCwq10/WOJBOpzzNNI/AAAAAAAACwA/oWDrQRZoe3s5t9_WH0yPGRtTcZ5d0e7jACLcB/s1200/Capture.JPG

[R3awak3n]

Update?

I'm about to do 11/36 SunRace with 34/50 and Med Cage Centaur w a Road Link - wondering if I should just go to 11/40 and have #allthegears - or if that's a bridge too far...

on my end?

I think I had another thread about it BUT

I am running a 36t cassette in the back with a road link and has been flawless. however I am running 46/34 and not 50/34. I would think 50/34 would work but not very usable small small, chain would probably be too long but who needs to use that anyways.


I hightly doubt a 40 would work, even with a road link... even wolf tooth says 36t is the max for campy and I am going to believe them on that.

[jtakeda]

I’m planning on doing this on a build but it looks like on the wolf tooth website it says the road link is only approved to work on shimano rear ders.

Thoughts?

[R3awak3n]

I’m planning on doing this on a build but it looks like on the wolf tooth website it says the road link is only approved to work on shimano rear ders.

Thoughts?

depends where you look. I was confused by this too, there is another part of that terrible website that says wolftooth works with campy, sram, shimano. Campy only recommended for up to a 36T cassette.

That said, now on this for a while and it is still working very well. Now have Easton cranks 47-32 with a 11-36 sram cassette in the back.

[jtakeda]

depends where you look. I was confused by this too, there is another part of that terrible website that says wolftooth works with campy, sram, shimano. Campy only recommended for up to a 36T cassette.

That said, now on this for a while and it is still working very well. Now have Easton cranks 47-32 with a 11-36 sram cassette in the back.

I see that they approve the use of 9 speed campy, sram, shimano
But it says that 11 speed has not been tested and they can’t recommend it’s use

Sounds like it works fine

[AngryScientist]

it works fine with campy-11.

1000's of miles on this set-up now, no problem.

[R3awak3n]

I see that they approve the use of 9 speed campy, sram, shimano
But it says that 11 speed has not been tested and they can’t recommend it’s use

Sounds like it works fine

"The RoadLink™ is optimized for the 10- and 11-speed Shimano road derailleur geometry. It also works very well with 9-speed road groups, all SRAM groups, and Campy derailleurs! One note is that with Campy it works best with cassettes up to 11-36."

quote taken from here - https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/products/roadlink

I think you are reading that wrong. Says works with 10-11 shim groups, 9 speed groups and all sram groups and campy groups. So they are saying yes to campy groups, all of them.


But also from experience, works great :)

[ultraman6970]

Getting this alive...

Due to the suffering I got in the last century where I had to literally walk like 3 climbs, decided to set a bike just for up and down steep hills rides.

Thought just going triple, got the crankset from a forumite, found a triple fd eventhought probably a compact campy fd was going to work. Now im having a hard time finding a campagnolo long cage rd for the right price, theres a record long cage that jumped like to 200 bucks in a matter of minutes at ebay.

I have a veloce 10 moving around, which probably will clear 28 or 30 T cogs but just to play safe was thinking in adding one of those wolftooth roadlinks and call it a day.

The triple has a 42 in it and i do not have the bad custom of crossing chains like a madman.

Any comments about it? It will work?

Looks like found my answer....

https://www.bikeforums.net/bicycle-mechanics/1087807-how-big-can-i-get-away-wolf-tooth-road-link.html

[Dave]

Campy's current 12 speed RDs use a similar device, but it moves the RD straight back by 25mm, so it will clear a 34T sprocket.

I can climb just about anything with my 48/32 and 11-34