OK...what the hell is this?

[Lewis Moon]

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https://photos.app.goo.gl/RwhGAHSpjC7cyMJU9
Found on my Swiss Cross this AM.

[Gummee]

Looks like a crack

M

[saab2000]

Looks like a slightly undersized seatpost. Or are you talking about the cable stop, which I find kind of cool?

[JAGI410]

Looks like the doohickey on a bicycle where the seat stick thingy goes in :banana:

[charliedid]

Crack

[Lewis Moon]

Looks like a crack

M

My thought too. Bummed. LOVE this bike.

[Lewis Moon]

Looks like a slightly undersized seatpost. Or are you talking about the cable stop, which I find kind of cool?

It takes a 27.2. That's a Ritchey WCS 27.2.

[guyintense]

My thought too. Bummed. LOVE this bike.

Only one way to find out for sure. Unless of course you have x-ray vision.

[FlashUNC]

Looks like a crack from an under-sized seatpost.

[54ny77]

Is that Phil McCracken's bike?

[thwart]

Looks like a crack from an under-sized seatpost.
This.

If it's a Ritchey '27.2' post, you probably have some recourse... if you bought it new.

[Lewis Moon]

Looks like a crack from an under-sized seatpost.

Ritchey specifies a 27.2 post and that's a 27.2 Richey WCS post. Unless Ritchey reamed it larger at the factory, that's stock.

[GregL]

Apparently that fastback seatpost binder has a propensity to crack:

https://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/f40/cracked-brazing-can-fixed-44556.html

Greg

[Lewis Moon]

This.

If it's a Ritchey '27.2' post, you probably have some recourse... if you bought it new.

Bought it new directly from Ritchey. Waiting on a reply.

[FlashUNC]

Ritchey specifies a 27.2 post and that's a 27.2 Richey WCS post. Unless Ritchey reamed it larger at the factory, that's stock.

I have a 27.2 WCS one bolt post. Its a tad undersized. Replaced it with a Fizik.

[thwart]

Apparently that fastback seatpost binder has a propensity to crack:

https://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/f40/cracked-brazing-can-fixed-44556.html

Greg
That's worth a read just to see how some folks would address a similar crack in brazing, if it's not a warranty covered issue. Hopefully it is.

E-Richie has a post about filing down a defect and stress risers that is interesting.

[Lewis Moon]

The Ritchey return Dept has been quick today. They offered to replace but... unfortunately they don't have any canti frames and may quit making them. Switching to disc would be a bite, especially with Campy, which don't work with most disc calipers. I'd need to get some Paul Klampers as well as a new set of Campy compatible CX wheels. Big bux. Basically what I could get a good used Ridley X-Fire frame for.
I asked them to look in their paint blem/seconds/no fork pile.

[jr59]

The Ritchey return Dept has been quick today. They offered to replace but... unfortunately they don't have any canti frames and may quit making them. Switching to disc would be a bite, especially with Campy, which don't work with most disc calipers. I'd need to get some Paul Klampers as well as a new set of Campy compatible CX wheels. Big bux. Basically what I could get a good used Ridley X-Fire frame for.
I asked them to look in their paint blem/seconds/no fork pile.

That stinks!

[R3awak3n]

The Ritchey return Dept has been quick today. They offered to replace but... unfortunately they don't have any canti frames and may quit making them. Switching to disc would be a bite, especially with Campy, which don't work with most disc calipers. I'd need to get some Paul Klampers as well as a new set of Campy compatible CX wheels. Big bux. Basically what I could get a good used Ridley X-Fire frame for.
I asked them to look in their paint blem/seconds/no fork pile.

campy would work but would cost you a bit (specially if the bike has post mounts). You could go with potenza, I have the right shifter (would sell cheap), brand new I could sell for cheap so you would just need to buy a left at full price. Then the only other expensive thing would be the wheels.


or... could they get you a canti break away?

[DarkStar]

Looks like a crack

M
Yep.

[DRietz]

That is an easy fix for a reputable builder. Probably $100.

[Jimbo]

Its a long ride home out of the saddle.
I rode about 3miles out of the saddle with a failure once. It sucks much worse than you would think.

[Lewis Moon]

That is an easy fix for a reputable builder. Probably $100.

...plus a respray. No one around here paints frames for less than $250.
Not getting it powdered, BTDT.

[Clean39T]

Sux.

I have a frame in hand right now that is allegedly 27.2 and a 27.2 Zipp SL has at least 1mm of back n' forth room in it - while a cheap carbon post almost fills it out and a Thomson is somewhere in between. Looks like I'll be using the Chipotle-lid shim to make sure it's snugged up.

This should be a good warning to us all to pay attention to how far things are pinching as they get tight.

[Lewis Moon]

Sux.

I have a frame in hand right now that is allegedly 27.2 and a 27.2 Zipp SL has at least 1mm of back n' forth room in it - while a cheap carbon post almost fills it out and a Thomson is somewhere in between. Looks like I'll be using the Chipotle-lid shim to make sure it's snugged up.

This should be a good warning to us all to pay attention to how far things are pinching as they get tight.

Yep. If you need carbon paste to keep it from slipping....

[Lewis Moon]

Looks like I'm going to cut my losses and get the frame replaced. I love this frame but can't really afford any of the options. I'll see how I feel about getting new wheels and Klampers when it gets here.

[AngryScientist]

not the best situation, but it's nice to hear Ritchey is stepping up and giving you a new frame, and they replied in very short order. that's, quite frankly, much better than i thought you were going to do when i initially read this.

i also have to say, i'm totally bummed out to hear that they are not going to make this frame in canti version anymore. that's a real shame.

[Lewis Moon]

not the best situation, but it's nice to hear Ritchey is stepping up and giving you a new frame, and they replied in very short order. that's, quite frankly, much better than i thought you were going to do when i initially read this.

i also have to say, i'm totally bummed out to hear that they are not going to make this frame in canti version anymore. that's a real shame.

Customer service was spot on. Best I've ever dealt with. I also hate the whole disc only thing. Cantis have always worked perfectly for me.

[Clean39T]

Customer service was spot on. Best I've ever dealt with. I also hate the whole disc only thing. Cantis have always worked perfectly for me.Sell the disc frameset and buy another canti on closeout...

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[unterhausen]

i still think someone broke the VS bike with a screwdriver. Now we have seen in the OP in this thread why you would do that, undersized ritchey seatposts.

The crack in the VS bike is in a totally different place. I don't think it's clear that the bike shown in this thread has a crack, but if it does it needs to be remedied in a totally different manner. The crack in the VS bike was being held together by the binder bolt.

[oldpotatoe]

It takes a 27.2. That's a Ritchey WCS 27.2.

We sold a few where the seat post slipped(Ritchey 27.2)..so had to really crank on that bolt..Ritchey's answer was a larger seatpost(they said) that we couldn't even get into the frame..More than a few had 'oversized' seat post 'holes'.

[Lewis Moon]

We sold a few where the seat post slipped(Ritchey 27.2)..so had to really crank on that bolt..Ritchey's answer was a larger seatpost(they said) that we couldn't even get into the frame..More than a few had 'oversized' seat post 'holes'.

Wondering if this is the reason things got taken care of so quickly...

[oldpotatoe]

Wondering if this is the reason things got taken care of so quickly...

No surprise..Ritchey has always been good about warranty issues BUT as has been mentioned, I get the new one(disc) sell it toot sweet and get what ya want.

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http://gunnarbikes.com/site/bikes/crosshairs/

[Tony]

I've dealt with Ritchey customer service twice in the past, EXCELLENT! Even sent with replaced item a very cool Ritchey metric tape measure as a gift.

[pbarry]

That crack shouldn't have happened from an undersized post. Typical crack from an u.s. seatpost is below the relief slot. The binder/SS junction may have gotten a little too hot when it was brazed--Seat stays are pretty thin. jmo. Ritchey will stand behind it. :)

[unterhausen]

agreed, what we see looks fine as far as the brazing goes. I wonder if the underside was incompletely brazed or had some other flaw