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jojobos
11-14-2018, 01:24 PM
Hi All, I am thinking of switching from SPD to MTB flat pedal for my cx commuting bike. I think I want some kind of foot retention. Are there any? The reason I am wanting MTB flats is that I remember riding(long time ago) with sylvan track pedal&toe clip was kind of slippery in wet weather and also not accommodating for larger shoes.

Jaybee
11-14-2018, 01:40 PM
A MTB flat with pins is surprisingly sticky with the right shoe. Think Race Face Chester instead of MKS Sylvan. I would ride that with any shoe short of a full leather sole dress shoe.

KidWok
11-14-2018, 02:16 PM
I use mtb flats with pins for commuting. No retention. Works great. I could see wanting some retention for bunny hopping stuff, but rarely happens.

Tai

Mark McM
11-14-2018, 02:29 PM
What do you mean by "foot retention" on a flat pedal?

There are some pedals which are big flat platforms, with a clipless retention system in the middle, which allows you to either clip in, or simply stand on the pedal.

Crank Brothers Doubleshot pedal:

https://www.universalcycles.com/images//products/large/93996.jpg


In a similar vain, there are pedals have a large flat surface on one side, and clipless retention system on the other side, so you can either chose to be clipped in or not clipped depending on which side you pedal on.

Genetic Chimera pedals:

https://www.universalcycles.com/images//products/large/47152.jpg


Other flat pedals can have traditional toe clips and straps fitted to one side:

https://www.universalcycles.com/images//products/large/73945.jpg

andeww
11-14-2018, 02:39 PM
never used something like this, but looks comfy

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0247/9431/products/gates_slim_1_large.jpg?v=1494946122

Ken Robb
11-14-2018, 02:43 PM
I agree that if you try the pedals without a retention device you may very well find that you don't need anything but pinned pedals.

jojobos
11-14-2018, 03:15 PM
Thanks all for your inputs. I am looking for something that doesn't require a cleat and a clpless shoes for it. I think I will try MTB flats with pins first and I can add straps later if needed. When I made a switch to clipless system I was afraid of locked in to the bike. Now years later I am afraid of not clipped in..

austex
11-14-2018, 03:22 PM
PowerGrips, but not sure if they'll attached to modern flat pedals:

http://www.powergrips.com/

CMiller
11-14-2018, 04:16 PM
For any city commuting I wouldnt use straps at all unless you have a fixed gear, just not worth the danger of sudden stops. Sneakers + pinned pedals for me.

Dino SuegiĆ¹
11-14-2018, 05:21 PM
I have used those Speedplay "Platformer" things, which are convenient because they snap onto X or Zeros, but they are plastic, not incredibly strong, and can get kind of slick sometimes.

Has anyone here used Drilliums or Brass Knuckles?


For any city commuting I wouldnt use straps at all unless you have a fixed gear, just not worth the danger of sudden stops. Sneakers + pinned pedals for me.
Yes, good point.

d_douglas
11-14-2018, 06:15 PM
Hi All, I am thinking of switching from SPD to MTB flat pedal for my cx commuting bike. I think I want some kind of foot retention. Are there any? The reason I am wanting MTB flats is that I remember riding(long time ago) with sylvan track pedal&toe clip was kind of slippery in wet weather and also not accommodating for larger shoes.

Yeah, just find some $25-50 flats with pins and you are good - I have some Crank Bros 5050 pedals and have used hiking shoes, jogging shoes, Blundstones, flipflops and they work remarkably well.

sevencyclist
11-14-2018, 06:35 PM
I loved my days with PowerGrips.

http://www.powergrips.com/

Dekonick
11-14-2018, 07:08 PM
Time Link is another option.

p nut
11-15-2018, 08:18 AM
Pins and sticky shoes for.....commuting? I just use plastic pedals for stuff like that. Nice, wide pedals that you can SHIFT the position of your foot easily.

http://www.laxzo.com/ekmps/shops/jsphshi/images/bicycle-pedal-plastic-red-and-black-platform-pedals-mtb-bike-[2]-18597-p.jpg

bicycletricycle
11-15-2018, 09:30 AM
I use MKS sylvan touring or Shimano Saint platforms (with pins) with rubber soled shoes. The MKS get a little slippery feeling sometimes especially after a year or two when the aluminum cages get worn smoother. The platforms with pins always feel secure and grippy.

That being said, your foot will always move around more than a clipless set up and you just have to get used to that IMHO

vqdriver
11-15-2018, 10:38 AM
Depends on what the op commutes in.
If the shoes have any type of rubber sole, pinned pedals are the way to go. If leather soled shoes those same pins will shred your legs

marsh
11-15-2018, 11:14 AM
I tried this setup on a mini-tour. I ended up just taking the straps off bc
the pins were plenty sticky enough.

never used something like this, but looks comfy
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0247/9431/products/gates_slim_1_large.jpg?v=1494946122

kingpin75s
11-15-2018, 12:35 PM
I tried this setup on a mini-tour. I ended up just taking the straps off bc
the pins were plenty sticky enough.

Yeah. A retention system like that or the PowerGrips can be useful for real mountain bike riding, but generally seems unnecessary for commuting. YMMV.

I really like the Wellgo B132 pedals with any rubber sole shoe for commuting.

I use smaller pin pedals like the Blackspire Sub4 if I am wearing Five-Tens for technical riding.

Have some PowerGrips on XC Pros but admittedly have not ridden them. Yet.

jojobos
11-15-2018, 03:22 PM
I wear casual shoes and don't have any leather soled shoes. So it sounds like I can just put on my old Kona wah wah and go for it. Shimano saint looks good and probably well designed.

vqdriver
11-15-2018, 03:47 PM
Give the race face chesters a look