Road bike brands that still use English and Italian threaded BB system?

[zmalwo]

Hi, I'm looking to buy a new bike but I have no interested in BB90, BB30, PF30, BBright, BBwhatever so I'm looking for a list of manufactures that still use standard Italian or English threaded BB system. I know Pinarello still does but not interested in them for financial reason. Carbon frame specifically. Thanks!

[Joxster]

Merckx still use Itallian BBs, Cinelli use a mix of BSA & ITA, Tomassini use ITA and Bianchi use BSA

[joosttx]

Festka uses BSA

[bigbill]

Allied uses BSA. Made in Murica as well.

https://alliedcycleworks.com/pages/allied-alfa

[oldpotatoe]

Hi, I'm looking to buy a new bike but I have no interested in BB90, BB30, PF30, BBright, BBwhatever so I'm looking for a list of manufactures that still use standard Italian or English threaded BB system. I know Pinarello still does but not interested in them for financial reason. Carbon frame specifically. Thanks!

Specialized Roubaix from Expert model to below is now threaded bottom bracket per below article:
Is pressfit dead? road.cc investigates and speaks to Specialized and Bowman Cycles | road.cc

Pinerellos and Bianchi Intenso are other carbon frames that have threaded bottom brackets in 2018.

Merckx also. Some Jamis.

[R3awak3n]

you forgot BB386 :)

Maybe also look at bikes with T47 which is just a 30mm threaded... I am a fan even though I never had a bike with it. Just nice to have the best from both worlds.

I don't even really have a problem with press fit unless its internal routing (which most bikes that have it are indeed press fit). Its so dumb that if I want to change a brake cable, I now have to hammer out a bottom bracket (and really in a lot of cases, throw it in the trash)

[ultraman6970]

T47? there's another one? Everytime I turn around another format shows up? What a nightmare, looks like im doing good having far superior italian bb's in my bikes :P

[KonaSS]

Many of Specialized newest frame models are switching back to English threaded.

[Ralph]

Many of Specialized newest frame models are switching back to English threaded.

Which ones? Any available as frame and fork only?

[Matthew]

All Specialized bikes are running disc brakes only now I believe so you may have to take that into consideration if targeting a brand new frame.

[KonaSS]

Color me mistaken. They started going back to English on the mountain bikes, like the Epic. I thought they had on the new Tarmac as well, but I was wrong.

Sorry. But they do still make rim brake road bikes.

[m4rk540]

Merckx also. Some Jamis.

Merckx uses BB86 on their carbon frames and BSA for steel.

https://glorycycles.com/eddy-merckx-liege-75-steel-road-frame/

https://www.bikeradar.com/us/road/news/article/2017-eddy-merckx-em525-disc-performance-first-look-48177/

2017 Eddy Merckx EM525 Disc Performance highlights

Highest stiffness to weight
Constant stiffness for each frame size
900gr/380gr (frame/fork)
Monocoque front triangle
Monocoque fork
Integration of fork and seatpost
Powerbox, asymmetric chainstays
Kink compliance seatstays
Syntace 12mm thru-axles
Seven frame sizes
20mm offset seatpost
Internal cable routing for mechanical and electronic
Internal disc brake cable routing
Flat mount disc
Tapered 1.5 inch integrated headset
BB86

[AngryScientist]

what type of new bike are you looking for OP?

[bikinchris]

T47? there's another one? Everytime I turn around another format shows up? What a nightmare, looks like im doing good having far superior italian bb's in my bikes :P

I dislike pressed in bottom brackets. But the T47 works fine, since it's threaded. AFAIK it is currently only on custom bikes.

[cachagua]

T47? There's another one? Every time I turn around another format shows up! What a nightmare...


Yes, and not all of them are compatible with 44mm thru-axle, either.

[scoobydrew]

Ibis Hakka MX is designed for a T47 bottom bracket.

[David Tollefson]

English is all I use. Don't ask for anything else.

[seedster2]

You can order Sarto carbon frames with threaded BB. I believe the Pina F8 is threaded as well.

[NewDFWrider]

I dislike pressed in bottom brackets. But the T47 works fine, since it's threaded. AFAIK it is currently only on custom bikes.

The flaanimal 4.1 has a t47 bb.

[zennmotion]

Cyfac has a BSC option on their carbon frames. Pricey, but they show up on the Bay often enough if you're patient. Fantastic bikes-

[zmalwo]

what type of new bike are you looking for OP?

still looking for a road frame with Threaded BB and alloy dropouts.

[buddybikes]

Sure Moots, Firefly, IF, Seven would take good care of you

[charliedid]

still looking for a road frame with Threaded BB and alloy dropouts.

A year later....how hard have you actually looked? :bike:

[zmudshark]

still looking for a road frame with threaded bb and alloy dropouts.BIXXIS (https://bixxis.com/en/prima-d11-steel-frame-bike/)

[owly]

Alan.

carbon Mito, or Super Corsa Scandium.

[fmradio516]

Just curious, what would be the purpose of new builders using italian bb shells? Serious question. There seems to be no reason(besides downsides) to use that instead of BSA, but i may be wrong.

[GonaSovereign]

T47? there's another one? Everytime I turn around another format shows up? What a nightmare, looks like im doing good having far superior italian bb's in my bikes :P

T47 is excellent. It's threaded. It's a larger version of BSA.

[oldpotatoe]

Just curious, what would be the purpose of new builders using italian bb shells? Serious question. There seems to be no reason(besides downsides) to use that instead of BSA, but i may be wrong.

Tool to thread the 'far superior Italian' BB more simple and guarantee that both sides threads are parallel to one another..

[chiasticon]

T47 is excellent. It's threaded. It's a larger version of BSA.Trek moving towards T47 (albeit slightly tweaked). it's on the 2020 Crockett and allegedly they're heading that way with other models soon.

Spooky and Vynl both make aluminum bikes with BSA BB's. and of course any custom builder will do it for you.

[jemdet]

Just curious, what would be the purpose of new builders using italian bb shells? Serious question. There seems to be no reason(besides downsides) to use that instead of BSA, but i may be wrong.


Let's ask Pinarello -

Italian thread Bottom bracket: Pinarello does not compromise on this point. For us this is the best solution overall to ensure rigidity, performance and reliability over time.

So, uh, there you have it. Rigidity.

I think that Pinarello really props up the Italian bottom bracket industry. Why else would a company like Rotor continue to make them? It ain't for neo-retro Bottechias.

[zmalwo]

Tool to thread the 'far superior Italian' BB more simple and guarantee that both sides threads are parallel to one another..

is it because one tapping rod can go through both since the threads are the same both sides?