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zmudshark
08-08-2018, 06:55 PM
I have no idea what this is, but I'm trying to help out a charity, and you guys are the the most educated people I know.

I think it is some sort of possible touch screen programming device. They have a case of them (12) donated, NIB. Before I throw them up on an auction site for them, I thought I'd ask here about value.

Pics:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/QDqV6X2F6pM7Y5Cz7

Mods, delete if out of bounds, I've looked around, can't find much...no forum for this, it's not audio/photo/car/bike.

PS - I'm not making a penny on any possible sale, just trying to helping out a good cause.

chuckroast
08-08-2018, 07:18 PM
This is a pretty wild guess but the pictures remind me of tablet devices we used to have in conference rooms where I once worked (Sprint) that would lower the screen, dim the lights, close the curtains, turn on the audio and video, etc.

zmudshark
08-08-2018, 07:19 PM
I think they may be some sort of touch screen input for machine shop tools. That’s just a wild guess, I’ve been looking for two weeks trying to figure this out

Louis
08-08-2018, 07:23 PM
Looks to me like the type of thing a manufacturer would use as the user-machine interface if they were building something like, say, a modern programmable machine tool, or anything else where you had a computer controlled thing-a-ma-jig and a human who needs to talk to the computer.

I have no clue what it would be worth, or more importantly how to find a potential market for them. Assuming you can't find anything using Google, I think your best bet would be to pick some minimum amount your charity is willing to take for them (say, $1k for the lot ???), put them up for auction and let the free market handle the rest. The amount of folks out there who need 12 of them has to be quite limited...

donevwil
08-08-2018, 07:32 PM
Ebay comps'ish (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=pro-face+glc150-bg41&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1)

As already mentioned it's a machine interface that (once programmed and integrated into a control system) allows operators and techs to make specific changes to machine setup (EMO recovery, product change parameters, etc.). We use similar hardware (albeit Omron brand) to allow our production leads to make such changes to the automation we design for our production floor.

thwart
08-08-2018, 09:17 PM
I learn something new here almost every day.

Most of it is nearly worthless... :rolleyes: but at least I'm learning something...

HenryA
08-08-2018, 09:52 PM
https://www.proface.com/en

jamesau
08-09-2018, 05:28 AM
This model appears to be a discontinued by the manufacturer and is nearing its end-of-support window (http://www.profaceamerica.com/en-US/content/glclt-series).

These are basically a special purpose and customizable graphical user interface / machine control interface used to automate/monitor a low-volume selling machine (could be anything from an amusement park ride, to an industrial washing machine, to a parts manufacturing machine, etc).

As with most things computer related, product cycles are relatively short. The buyer interested in this has a facility with these in use that would want some spares on the cheap rather than upgrading to the latest model. An adult or vocational training program could be interested if it came with (or had free) programming software available but I suspect these educational institutions would want something from the better-known players (Rockwell, Siemens, etc).

The ebay comps in the post above is a good place to start.

Good luck!

zmudshark
08-09-2018, 06:02 AM
Thanks all!

Peter B
08-09-2018, 07:04 AM
That's a combined HMI and PLC w/ analog and digital I/O. Currently in the Schneider Electric portfolio--not a new player to industrial control. You'll need the programming software and interface cable along with sensors and output devices. No longer supported or factory-repairable but it is still a very usable instrument for a knowledgeable person interested in creating specialized machine/tool control as long as you can acquire the proper software (http://www.profaceamerica.com/en-US/content/software-0).

See LT Type H user's manual (https://www.hmisource.com/otasuke/download/manual/hard/lt.htm)w/ specs.

Legacy software updates and drivers here. (https://www.hmisource.com/otasuke/download/update/discontinued.html)

johnniecakes
08-09-2018, 07:12 AM
They are MMI's, Man Machine Interfaces. At previous employers we used them to control stand alone machines used to braid hydraulic hose. They serve as the connection between the operator and the machine controller. Think of them as replacing knobs, buttons, and dials. By themselves they are not much good for anything. Unless you can find someone who does not want to upgrade to a newer model I can't see much value in them. When we had excess obsolete inventory we would sell to Electrical South, they would buy and sell old and rebuilt electronics.

Peter B
08-09-2018, 07:25 AM
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Think of them as replacing knobs, buttons, and dials. By themselves they are not much good for anything.

This one is more--see my post above. Combined HMI and PLC w/ I/O. Just add software.

johnniecakes
08-09-2018, 07:34 AM
This one is more--see my post above. Combined HMI and PLC w/ I/O. Just add software.

Granted, some PLC functionality. We controlled multiple axis's and required PID control of motors and about a dozen analog I/O along 50 or so digital I/O and safety monitoring since we applied CE for international sales. We used the Profaces as a front end only.

duff_duffy
08-09-2018, 09:47 AM
This company buys used industrial control systems. They may be able to identify and offer something if of value. I toured there facility about a year ago, it was really cool!
www.radwell.com