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oldpotatoe
07-23-2018, 08:44 AM
Always something interesting from or about SKY.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-blames-tour-de-france-roadside-reactions-on-a-french-cultural-thing/
"It's interesting. We raced in Italy and Chris's case was open when we were at the Tour of Italy and the Italians were fantastic, to be fair to them. The Spanish, fantastic. It just seems to be a French thing,” Brailsford said.

soulspinner
07-23-2018, 09:05 AM
Always something interesting from or about SKY.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-blames-tour-de-france-roadside-reactions-on-a-french-cultural-thing/

Has nothing to do with a doping thing, right?:rolleyes:

FlashUNC
07-23-2018, 09:07 AM
Two nations cool with doping for a long time. One ain't. So weird.

redir
07-23-2018, 09:24 AM
It is interesting though, the French have home field advantage every year at this race.

If I was running Team Sky Moscon would be fired and not only for throwing punches but for what he did with Reza. Screw that guy, bad for the team and bad for the sport.

oldpotatoe
07-23-2018, 09:26 AM
Has nothing to do with a doping thing, right?:rolleyes:

Of COURSE it does but Froomie was under that cloud at the Giro too, yes?

nooneline
07-23-2018, 09:30 AM
yeah, saying "Gee something is just wrong with how French people are" sure sounds like a great way to ingratiate yourself with your hosts.

simpsonn
07-23-2018, 09:43 AM
Assuming the French media pick up this article, it should make the Pyrenees that much more interesting.

chiasticon
07-23-2018, 10:06 AM
the whole TdF vs Giro and who's more rude to the riders question isn't all that interesting, really. but I get that Brailsford is frustrated and angry with how they're being treated, he's just choosing a silly/confrontational way to express it (but that is his way...).

the bigger point is that he's not wrong that spitting on and intimidating riders and staff has no place in the race.

Jaybee
07-23-2018, 10:36 AM
the whole TdF vs Giro and who's more rude to the riders question isn't all that interesting, really. but I get that Brailsford is frustrated and angry with how they're being treated, he's just choosing a silly/confrontational way to express it (but that is his way...).

the bigger point is that he's not wrong that spitting on and intimidating riders and staff has no place in the race.

This is 100% true. Blaming it on the "Frenchiness" of the fans is unlikely to get them to stop though.

johnniecakes
07-23-2018, 11:02 AM
The race is in France, but who are the people spitting and being otherwise very rude? Probably more a product of camping out for 2 days on a hillside with lots of alcohol than nationality.

BobO
07-23-2018, 11:24 AM
We've got to keep in mind that during the Giro the jury was still out on the Froome case. However, just prior to the TdF some drama took place and depending on your point of view that ruling could look like a fix was in. In all likelihood this has little to do with location and everything to do with the odor of sports politik.

johnmdesigner
07-23-2018, 11:35 AM
Oyh!
I'm into the Gin this afternoon as it is pouring outside. Because it's free I will leave my thoughts.

1. Sky loves that Froome is second because this reduces the possibility of a huge bucket of pee pee being thrown on him. And all the talk about illegal doings is deflected. Thomas will "fade" in the last week following orders. That is if Thomas is a good soldier.

2. Moscon, French fans are a great distraction from their leaders problems. Brailsford is an excellent politician. He should run for office. He can spin a story well.

3. Most of the Sky riders could ride Froome off their wheel if he was not protected. This will be the high point of "omerta" within the team. It would have to be a mighty team indeed if someone doesn't defect this time.

4. Perhaps Froome will take the fall for all this PR mess. Really, who will want him if he loses?

5.I think the sponsor caravan should have a truck filled with asthma inhalers. If all the fans are high it will make things more interesting.:hello:

johnmdesigner
07-23-2018, 01:36 PM
Take a look at the NY Post today.
Moscon hits rider mid stage. (Was the first kilometer)
Manafort.
Roseanne.
You know who owns the paper right?
Mr. Sky himself.

72gmc
07-23-2018, 01:50 PM
Brailsford acts like a man who believes he is the smartest guy in the room.

He probably hasn't read the book.

johnmdesigner
07-23-2018, 01:58 PM
Brailsford acts like a man who believes he is the smartest guy in the room.

He probably hasn't read the book.

If everyone keeps believing this is reality then I suppose he is the smartest.

sfscott
07-23-2018, 02:02 PM
Two nations cool with doping for a long time. One ain't. So weird.

Unless said dopers are named Jalabert or Virenque. Then they are national heroes.

trener1
07-23-2018, 02:02 PM
I'm pretty sure he has read the book, only its called How to lose friends and make enemies.

macaroon
07-23-2018, 02:03 PM
As an Englishman, I find the actions of the fans amusing. We've clearly riled up the frogs with our domination of their race; long may it continue. Hopefully we'll have a Brit one, two.

Bruce K
07-23-2018, 02:12 PM
I just hope this doesn’t make things even worse.

What will be the reaction if Froome, Thomas, or both are knocked down by a fan?

How will the organizers respond? And then what?

Another Director was interviewed and his take was that the whole Froome thing has turned the sport into more of a joke than it was already perceived to be.

BK

vladoo
07-23-2018, 03:35 PM
I think Chris is very good and smart guy and he does not feel comfortable now seeing people's reactions. He is ready to stay second. But he doesnt feel guilty. Thats from my point of view.

Amocat
07-23-2018, 05:18 PM
As an Englishman, I find the actions of the fans amusing. We've clearly riled up the frogs with our domination of their race; long may it continue. Hopefully we'll have a Brit one, two.

Hmm hmm the frogs ?:eek:

Amocat
07-23-2018, 05:19 PM
I think Chris is very good and smart guy and he does not feel comfortable now seeing people's reactions. He is ready to stay second. But he doesnt feel guilty. Thats from my point of view.

Second that ..he seems covering from the crowd in some areas and nearly got punched a few times but he may be getting worse and the broadcast doesnt always show it !

Amocat
07-23-2018, 05:21 PM
I just hope this doesn’t make things even worse.

What will be the reaction if Froome, Thomas, or both are knocked down by a fan?

How will the organizers respond? And then what?

Another Director was interviewed and his take was that the whole Froome thing has turned the sport into more of a joke than it was already perceived to be.

BK

Happened to Nibali but still got up in an uphill battle to finish close the group !

Climb01742
07-23-2018, 06:03 PM
If Brailsford is so upset, go through with his threat to not race in France. Yeah. That’ll happen. Sky needs Tour more than Tour needs them. Tour might be more interesting without them. IMO, Sky is full of prats.

soulspinner
07-23-2018, 06:37 PM
Of COURSE it does but Froomie was under that cloud at the Giro too, yes?

Extreme as I can do at sarcasm.:)

soulspinner
07-23-2018, 06:38 PM
if brailsford is so upset, go through with his threat to not race in france. Yeah. That’ll happen. Sky needs tour more than tour needs them. Tour might be more interesting without them. Imo, sky is full of prats.

+1

johnmdesigner
07-23-2018, 06:49 PM
I think Chris is very good and smart guy and he does not feel comfortable now seeing people's reactions. He is ready to stay second. But he doesnt feel guilty. Thats from my point of view.

I hope you are proven right.
Sometimes a good person is caught up in a bad situation.
Sometimes the bad situation shows that the person wasn't so good after all.

Llewellyn
07-23-2018, 08:12 PM
If Brailsford is so upset, go through with his threat to not race in France. Yeah. That’ll happen. Sky needs Tour more than Tour needs them. Tour might be more interesting without them. IMO, Sky is full of prats.

+ 2

I wouldn't be sad to see the whole Sky rabble disappear up their own arses

Ralph
07-23-2018, 08:38 PM
My daughter and I mostly ignore all this stuff....heck we don't even understand some of it. We record and watch the races to see the beautiful countryside, tile roofs on the beautiful and historic buildings, how locals live and farm, and the final sprint to see if Peter Sagan is involved. We really like watching how Sagan does the finishes....coming from way back sometimes.

We feel like we are getting a "Tour of France" without having to go there ourselves. Do think the commentary on NBC Sports is a little too much noise. But like it when they show what gears the riders are using.

Have enjoyed every minute so far even if we don't know a lot of the background. And those crowds near finish need to be contained.