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tbike4
06-25-2018, 06:51 PM
My new to me Colnago Master is almost done. I put 11 speed Athena on it with some place holder bars that suck so it's time for the real thing. Anybody ride Nitto with Ergo shifters? I have read good things about the bar/Ergo combo and of course they have to look right.
Right now I have this stem which is a 26.0 clamp and may stay or be replaced with a Nitto Pearl.


https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-noodle-handlebar?variant=23335757569

warren128
06-25-2018, 07:11 PM
These are 42cm Noodles Mod. 177 on my 1987 Raleigh. They work well with the late model Campagnolo Centaur Ergo levers that are on there now.

The combo works and looks so good that I'm setting up my Litespeed Classic the same way now (almost finished, just needs cabling.)

http://www.fototime.com/B57DD4AD498E30E/large.jpg

ColonelJLloyd
06-25-2018, 07:24 PM
I actually don't care for the 177 bar because of the dip it takes from the stem and the sweep back it does, but those features don't factor into how the bar plays with Ergopower levers IMO.

The Noodle has nearly parallel tops and ramps and so do my preferred bars. I find that Ergos feel great with bars with very rounded hooks and parallel tops/drops, at least for my hands.

If you're benchmark for looks is a Cinelli 64 then the Noodle probably won't ever look right to you.

Here's (https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=61127) an old thread.

Chapman's latest build looks to be using Noodles with 11s Ergos.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1779/42284010604_7bc5d5a469_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/27quBcA)Vivek's bilaminate randonneur (https://flic.kr/p/27quBcA) by Brian Chapman (https://www.flickr.com/photos/chapmancycles/), on Flickr

Plenty of examples out there for sure.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7166/6407469215_efbb44f97d.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6017/5983544546_1aa5343620.jpg

ColonelJLloyd
06-25-2018, 07:25 PM
Oh, and I definitely think a quill stem would look better on that Colnago, but whatever works best for you.

jtbadge
06-25-2018, 07:25 PM
FWIW the Noodles have a lot more reach than the bars you have now, you'll probably need a shorter stem to keep the fit the same.

DrSpoke
06-25-2018, 07:40 PM
I have these bars on my Cinelli Supercorsa w/Daytona10 and a Pearl stem. The fit of the shifters on the bar is good - relatively flat especially for a classic bend bar. That said, the bars are just ok overall. I like the long flat ramps as I sometimes position my hands there. But I don't like the hooks - the reach to there is quite long, the shape of the bars there is not so comfortable for me and there is interference between the arms and the tops. But I don't ride in that position often or for very long.

My favorite bar shape is the FSA New Ergo. It is very compatible w/Egos, has a short reach, a deep drop and a hook shape that's very nice. But, of course, black only and 31.8.

tbike4
06-25-2018, 07:45 PM
Yes Colonel I do believe a quill stem is in order. Just not sure what looks right. Hey Warren, what stem ya got on there? I want to get the right bits so I am only wrapping the bars once.
jt the top flat portion sweeps back toward you slightly, bringing the bar closer so that may negate the longer reach. I like a wide bar and the fact that the ramp does not slope down so much as other bars.
Thanks for the input guys.

OtayBW
06-25-2018, 07:48 PM
I run Noodles (w/ a quill stem) on a '91 DeRosa Primato w/ Centaur 10 spd. The ramps are long and flat and very well-suited to Ergos, IMO. The non-aero bend also goes well with that bike. Me likey....

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warren128
06-25-2018, 07:53 PM
Yes Colonel I do believe a quill stem is in order. Just not sure what looks right. Hey Warren, what stem ya got on there? I want to get the right bits so I am only wrapping the bars once.
jt the top flat portion sweeps back toward you slightly, bringing the bar closer so that may negate the longer reach. I like a wide bar and the fact that the ramp does not slope down so much as other bars.
Thanks for the input guys.

My Raleigh is running a Cinelli XA stem, and my Litespeed has a 3T (don't know the model of it)

I like the sweep back, and also the slight flare-out of the lower drops, but that's just me :)

ColonelJLloyd
06-25-2018, 07:58 PM
jt the top flat portion sweeps back toward you slightly, bringing the bar closer so that may negate the longer reach. I like a wide bar and the fact that the ramp does not slope down so much as other bars.
Thanks for the input guys.

No, he is correct. The reach to the hoods is longer than modern compact bars. The weird sweep back of the noodles doesn't negate the overall reach of the bend.

I don't know what kind of bar you're coming from so can't say how you might adapt to the Noodle. The bars I use most have very long reach by today's standards. So, I use a 90mm stem with Maes type bars and a 120mm stem with Pro 7s Vibe Round, for example, and it puts the hoods in roughly the same position.

As said, the Noodle has a slight flare at the ends that helps your forearms clear the tops. Why the Shimano bar I mentioned above doesn't keeps me from using more.

warren128
06-25-2018, 08:02 PM
To the OP, just shot this for you... (ignore the clutter, and to the TT clamping police, it's not clamped down LOL :D)

http://www.fototime.com/91137BE5EB4B25E/large.jpg

tbike4
06-25-2018, 08:12 PM
No, he is correct. The reach to the hoods is longer than modern compact bars. The weird sweep back of the noodles doesn't negate the overall reach of the bend.

I don't know what kind of bar you're coming from so can't say how you might adapt to the Noodle. The bars I use most have very long reach by today's standards. So, I use a 90mm stem with Maes type bars and a 120mm stem with Pro 7s Vibe Round, for example, and it puts the hoods in roughly the same position.

As said, the Noodle has a slight flare at the ends that helps your forearms clear the tops. Why the Shimano bar I mentioned above doesn't keeps me from using more.

Thanks for clarifying the reach question. I don't think I am concerned about it. I am old enough that I used to ride just a quill stem and probably silly narrow bars like 38. Back in the day!!

Right now I am coming from all modern setups with threadless stems and 31.8 bars. Mostly 3TTT. Ergosum, Rotundo, a Ritchey something but the Colnago needs a silver bar and must be 44 or so width. I have my eye on a Nitto Pearl 90mm so that might work with the Nitto Mod.

rwsaunders
06-25-2018, 08:19 PM
Here's a pic during the build and five years later I'm still rocking the same stem, bars and 10-speed Ergos. As somebody else indicated, the Noodle drops have a downward pitch when you set the top of the bars level and the Pearl stem has a slight downward pitch as well. No indentations for cables though.

https://i.imgur.com/zNGLjQuh.jpg

jamesdak
06-25-2018, 08:38 PM
I'm running Noodles with Ergo levers on at least 3 of my bikes and really like it. Seems perfectly comfortable to me.

This it them with a Athena 11 speed setup:

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/163999639.jpg

Then this is the Noodle with a Chorus 11 speed Setup:

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/166363859.jpg

And another setup with a Chorus 10 speed setup:

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/166799408.jpg

tbike4
06-25-2018, 09:33 PM
Nice photos james. Only one way to find out if I like them. Purchase has been made. Now I just need to get the right bottle cages. Shiny metal and classic looks. That's for another thread.
VO Moderniste. Looks similar to the Royal H cages.

Ken Robb
06-25-2018, 09:43 PM
I liked this combo on several bikes.

phoenix
06-25-2018, 09:44 PM
Noodles with 10spd Record. Sorry bout’ the crappy photos.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8231/8593698020_e01934951c_c.jpg

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8245/8593697548_367d27796a_c.jpg

tbike4
06-25-2018, 09:47 PM
Noodles with 10spd Record. Sorry bout’ the crappy photos.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8231/8593698020_e01934951c_c.jpg

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8245/8593697548_367d27796a_c.jpg

Classy build. What are those water bottle cages.

rwsaunders
06-25-2018, 09:47 PM
^ King Iris.

phoenix
06-25-2018, 09:51 PM
Yup. I also refer to them as the “Only Cage that Matters”.

http://www.kingcage.com/index.php

^ King Iris.

sailorboy
06-25-2018, 09:53 PM
I've had this combo as well in the past and the only thing I didn't care for was when I am sprinting (or whatever you call it when you're old) with hands in the drops, my wrists hit the bend at the top.

I have transitioned over to the sim-works co-misirlou bar which has a longer rearward extension of the drop thus allowing for more lateral movement of your forearm without hitting the bend area.
https://www.sim.works/collections/handle-bars-simworks-by-nitto/products/co-misirlou-bar?variant=23501980803

bikingshearer
06-25-2018, 11:33 PM
I use wide 177s (46 or 48cm) because I'm a big boy and have wide shoulders. I have Campy 10sp Ergos on all my regular rotation bikes. I have run this combo on a number of bikes for 10 years or more. I like it.

CSKeller
06-26-2018, 11:46 AM
What about the Nitto M151s??

I think they are compact and guess they will work well with Campy Ergos. I am contemplating trying them out on my steel Gangl when it is done with repaint!