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ergott
10-20-2006, 06:55 PM
Rims - 34mm, 452g each
Front hub 49g
Rear hub 175g
spokes ? (not in possesion yet)
Colours - TBA
Final weight - TBA
Availablilty - no production planned (ever)
:D
saab2000
10-20-2006, 07:05 PM
I was thinking today about some DT hubs with the Zipp 404 rims (or whatever they call the rims they use on their 404 wheels) with ceramic bearings (for feel good factor) and get decently close to some Lightweight wheels.
I like the dimples.
I may need to do some real wheels for 2007.
ergott
10-20-2006, 07:07 PM
Rims are aluminium clinchers.
ergott
10-20-2006, 07:08 PM
I was thinking today about some DT hubs with the Zipp 404 rims (or whatever they call the rims they use on their 404 wheels) with ceramic bearings (for feel good factor) and get decently close to some Lightweight wheels.
I like the dimples.
I may need to do some real wheels for 2007.
The DT 190 hubs (ceramic) are very expensive. Kick-a$$, but expensive.
saab2000
10-20-2006, 07:13 PM
The DT 190 hubs (ceramic) are very expensive. Kick-a$$, but expensive.
Everything (almost) that is kicka$$ is spendy.
PS - I just tweaked my Velocity Aerohead OCR clincher wheels. They are built with Record hubs and DT spokes. Revolutions fronts and rear on the non-drive side. I use 14/15/14 on the drive side and brass nips. They are clinchers. I build my own wheels normally. But I defer to you, who has built more than I have, here. These wheels are good, but not as good feeling as my Nucleons, which are tubies. Do you think it is because the Campy wheels are 'better' or because the Campy wheels are tubulars?
What say thee?
The Nucleons feel more zippy and sharp. I build a pretty good wheel. But the Campy Nucleons are the shiz as far as I am concerned. They are light, stiff and absolutely bullet proof. I wish I could build a wheel like those.
obtuse
10-20-2006, 10:08 PM
I was thinking today about some DT hubs with the Zipp 404 rims (or whatever they call the rims they use on their 404 wheels) with ceramic bearings (for feel good factor) and get decently close to some Lightweight wheels.
I like the dimples.
I may need to do some real wheels for 2007.
don't waste your money. you won't like'em. they go in a straight line fine, but they corner poorly and hop around the road as the rims produce wheels with a strange balance between how they feel when pushed vertically versus with side loads. get a pair of cosmic carbones or bontrager aelous. you'll have a go-fast aero wheelset that behaves properly in sprints, hard corners and through crummy road conditions. if you want ceramic bearings use'em.
obtuse
p.s. i've built a shi'ite ton of wheels. there's no magic to it, and i was as inept on my twelth set as i surely will be on my thousandth set. once you've reached a certain level of skill, building a good wheelset is all about ingredients, you and i don't have the ingredients to build a wheelset that does everything as well as a neutron tubular. trust me on this, zipp rims handbuilt to anything, or zipp pre-builts are fine triathlon and time-trial wheels. they are not road racing wheels and do not behave as such, there is a reason the sponsered teams will not use them in any races with corners or cobbles.
vaxn8r
10-20-2006, 10:22 PM
...PS - I just tweaked my Velocity Aerohead OCR clincher wheels. They are built with Record hubs and DT spokes. Velocity fronts and rear on the non-drive side. I use 14/15/14 on the drive side and brass nips. They are clinchers. I build my own wheels normally. But I defer to you, who has built more than I have, here. These wheels are good, but not as good feeling as my Nucleons, which are tubies. Do you think it is because the Campy wheels are 'better' or because the Campy wheels are tubulars?
What say thee?
The Nucleons feel more zippy and sharp. I build a pretty good wheel. But the Campy Nucleons are the shiz as far as I am concerned. They are light, stiff and absolutely bullet proof. I wish I could build a wheel like those.
Two wheelsets: Set one: Campy hubs, Open Pros, DT spokes clinchers. Set two: Protons. Clinchers. The Protons feel tighter and better in the twisties. The OP's require maintneance now and then. I've owned two sets of Protons and I've never touched them except to repack the hubs.
ATMO Campy prebuilts rawk.
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