small rear bag support

[AngryScientist]

i have a nice swift industries rear bag, but since i ride such small sized frames, if i hang it off the seatrails as designed it'll definitely hit the rear tire.

how reliable are the carradice bagmans?

bike has rear rack mounts, but a rack would be overkill just to hold the bag up.

i'm considering fabbing something up, similar to this image i found on the googles.

has anyone done something similar? or should i just use the bagman?

http://www.bikepacking.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/seat-pack-mr-fusion-05.jpg

[ColonelJLloyd]

I believe that image shows the cradle for a Porcelain Rocket bag (forget the name). It cradles and cinches a dry bag.

Bagmans aren't really my thing, but I have used one and they work well.

[speedevil]

I ride small frames too, and I've gone with the rickshaw front bag. it's easily switched from bike to bike which is nice if you swap bikes frequently. Second, it leaves the seatpost exposed in the rear and you can fasten a taillight easily, which can also be swapped to a different bike quickly.

My PDW taillight has this type of mount:

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-4jsf8mh/0/582af1d6/Th/i-4jsf8mh-Th.png

[AngryScientist]

I ride small frames too, and I've gone with the rickshaw front bag. it's easily switched from bike to bike which is nice if you swap bikes frequently. Second, it leaves the seatpost exposed in the rear and you can fasten a taillight easily, which can also be swapped to a different bike quickly.

My PDW taillight has this type of mount:

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-4jsf8mh/0/582af1d6/Th/i-4jsf8mh-Th.png

gotcha. i have a good front bag as well.

agreed that with a small frame space in the rear seatpost area is minimal. i mount my tail light to the chainstay generally speaking.

i'm going to try and fab something up this week, and see how it goes.

[speedevil]

agreed that with a small frame space in the rear seatpost area is minimal. i mount my tail light to the chainstay generally speaking

I did that too, but decided that the swappable front bag and the rubbery taillight holder was the best compromise for me. As you say, the amount of exposed seatpost is fairly small, so lights and bags don't usually work very well together.

[cgolvin]

I think we ride similarly sized frames, so take this small sample size experience FWIW.

The couple of times I have done multiple day rides I borrowed a friend's Apidura saddle bag. I was pleasantly surprised at how much it held and the overall design is excellent, mounts securely via saddle rails and seatpost, compresses well, and seems decently water resistant (only encountered coastal moisture, no actual rain).

Despite being fairly spendy, if these excursions became a regular thing I wouldn't hesitate to invest in one.

[ptourkin]

PDW makes the Bindle, which is more of a mass-market version of what Porcelain Rocket originally did. A lot of the smaller bikepacking bag makers are making a support like that for running a dropper. The new small Revelate Terrapin is genius for people who don't have a lot of post. https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/seat-bags/Terrapin8L

For something more like that Bagman, forum member Ocean Air Cycles did the Erlen and Swift has the Tailfeather.

[RFC]

I have both the Bagman and Bagman 2, both with quick release, that I use with Carradice bags. I am sold on this system. For example, ride to the gym and the bag pops off and becomes my gym bag.

Below are photos of the Bagman 2. Carradice no longer sells this model. They may have had some breakage problems, but I've had no issues. The Bagman 1 is steel, reasonably strong and does not have the side rods. Once you get the hang of it, it takes just a couple of minutes to transfer it between bikes.

Below are photos of my bikes with the Bagman 2 and a photo of my DIY efforts using a Goodwill 1980's Dooney and Bourke purse (great quality leather) held up by a seat tube mounted water bottle bracket and cage.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4541/37966861464_017687d243_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ZR16aJ)IMG_4512r (https://flic.kr/p/ZR16aJ) by Robert Copple (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150689726@N06/), on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/824/26982711237_508011bb20_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/H7nrZg)IMG_0361 (https://flic.kr/p/H7nrZg) by Robert Copple (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150689726@N06/), on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/809/26162586177_40d23cd88f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FRU6o2)IMG_0007 (2)r (https://flic.kr/p/FRU6o2) by Robert Copple (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150689726@N06/), on Flickr

[keevon]

It might be a little hard to make out, but here's a super cheap Sunlite Gold Tec front rack that I've repurposed for rear use. P-clamps hold it to the stays.

Depending on your frame size, it might be close enough to the saddle to act as a bag support.

[icepick_trotsky]

The bagman works really well. I have the quick release one and it's great.

Looks weird with no bag on it. That may or may not bother you.

[AngryScientist]

thanks for the thoughts and idea folks. keevon - that's perfect and a great idea, was thinking along those lines.

[AngryScientist]

OK, for now, the bagman looks good. very solid. doing a little adventuring this weekend where i'll need a bit of storage.

https://instagram.fewr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/vp/807cd9df6d15bfb017933f38875c647e/5BB57A2E/t51.2885-15/e35/32858106_452599798530483_8277740411460517888_n.jpg

[RFC]

+1 The Bagman is a very solid and efficient platform. I tried the DIY route, and although it was fun and somewhat successful from a tinkering POV, the Bagman is far superior.

[fogrider]

tried it and it throws off the handling when I lean the bike! it would be much better as an handlebar bag...with canti brakes, it will most likely not work. but with a bag in front you can have access while riding.