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weisan
05-12-2018, 06:50 AM
Two new framesets coming in next week. Had to prepare two buckets.
Some of you already know what one of them is, the other I will keep under wraps until later. Both are going to be super fun to build up, rubbing my palms, can't wait for them to get here and start cranking.

http://alicehui.com/bike/Builds/IMG_6853.jpg

cmbicycles
05-12-2018, 09:43 PM
I seem to recall you claiming that you had no room for more bikes. I don't know what to believe anymore, next thing you will be building a Campy equipped bike with the far superior Italian bottom bracket and riding tubulars. ;)

weisan
05-12-2018, 09:59 PM
I seem to recall you claiming that you had no room for more bikes. I don't know what to believe anymore, next thing you will be building a Campy equipped bike with the far superior Italian bottom bracket and riding tubulars. ;)

I don't. You can believe what I said.
I had to tear down two bikes to make room.

Clean39T
05-12-2018, 10:59 PM
I don't. You can believe what I said.

I had to tear down two bikes to make room.


These things happen :)

R3awak3n
05-13-2018, 05:16 AM
I was just telling people, I am happy with my current bikes, I think that is it for a while.... and now I am figuring out how to get one changed out ;)

What is the one we are suppose to know???

weisan
05-13-2018, 05:51 AM
What is the one we are suppose to know???

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=221655

R3 pal, don't worry too much about it, as long as you are not harming anyone, endangering your livelihood, betraying your wife, selling your kids, breaking the heart of your parents, disappointing your first-grade teacher, abetting terrorists, killing women and children....see what I mean...there are worse things that one can do. it's just bikes. a lot cheaper than expensive cars, lavish homes and oversea vacations. just relax and enjoy, let yourself fall in love again.

oldpotatoe
05-13-2018, 07:00 AM
I was just telling people, I am happy with my current bikes, I think that is it for a while.... and now I am figuring out how to get one changed out ;)

What is the one we are suppose to know???

Get a Merckx with Campagnolo, then you'll know. One that isn't bent, broken, dented, damaged...:)

simplemind
05-13-2018, 07:57 AM
https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=221655

R3 pal, don't worry too much about it, as long as you are not harming anyone, endangering your livelihood, betraying your wife, selling your kids, breaking the heart of your parents, disappointing your first-grade teacher, abetting terrorists, killing women and children....see what I mean...there are worse things that one can do. it's just bikes. a lot cheaper than expensive cars, lavish homes and oversea vacations. just relax and enjoy, let yourself fall in love again.

ROFL, Me thinks your next project should be a barn! :rolleyes:

veloduffer
05-13-2018, 09:51 AM
Weisan, I am in the same boat. Just took in two bikes, a ti graveler and carbon race bike, which are duplicitous to my current stable. They were eBay catches at prices that I didn't think I'd win (e.g. the carbon is a $7.5K frameset new and had full Dura Ace and was $2500).

So I'm parting out some bikes to make room. All in good fun.

AngryScientist
05-13-2018, 10:19 AM
haha, i too basically said "no more bikes..............unless i EVER see a Weigle pop up in my size", which is a substantially rare occurrence.

and then....

poof.

jpritchet74
05-13-2018, 10:49 AM
I have a feeling that a lot of us think that we are done building up new bikes, but always seem to find a new bike to build.

weisan
05-13-2018, 12:58 PM
ROFL, Me thinks your next project should be a barn! :rolleyes:

Are we building one in Colorado?

If yes, sign me up!

simplemind
05-13-2018, 02:30 PM
Are we building one in Colorado?

If yes, sign me up!

You have this "thing" about Colorado...so do I, especially as it gets closer to summer! Should get close to 100* by the end of the week here. :eek:

93KgBike
05-13-2018, 04:04 PM
I asked my wife if she thought I was a bike hoarder last week, after we watched a terrifying episode of reality TV about hoarding.

She said, "No, the bikes you've built over the years are beautiful, and they don't interfere with our lives; they make our lives better."

Then she turned to me and said, "But you definitely don't need ANY more."


That said, I can't wait to see yours, Weisan. :cool: The swap out solution is in my future too, I imagine.

Gummee
05-13-2018, 05:34 PM
I was just telling people, I am happy with my current bikes, I think that is it for a while.... and now I am figuring out how to get one changed out ;)

What is the one we are suppose to know???

Just one? I need to consolidate 3 of em into one (or another 3 depending on what the builder comes back with $$-wise)

M

colker
05-13-2018, 09:11 PM
Are you really building that C40 w/ shimano Tiagra?
It´s so obscene i actually think it´s cool.

weisan
05-13-2018, 09:45 PM
Are you really building that C40 w/ shimano Tiagra?
It´s so obscene i actually think it´s cool.

Yes. Absolutely.

And the other bike will get S O R A !

:D

Clean39T
05-14-2018, 12:28 AM
Yes. Absolutely.

And the other bike will get S O R A !

:D

S O R A ? ? -- that's what I got from my ride today :banana:

oldpotatoe
05-14-2018, 06:14 AM
Yes. Absolutely.

And the other bike will get S O R A !

:D

I hear them crying from here...:eek::)

weisan
05-14-2018, 08:12 PM
Came in this afternoon.

My first Colnago.

Should have it built by tomorrow, almost done.

It already exceeded my expectations.

http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7021.jpg

http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7022_2.jpg

http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7030.jpg

http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7034_2.jpg

http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7040.jpg

http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7036.jpg

http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7039.jpg

http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7045.jpg

http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7033_2.jpg

http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7027.jpg

Fishbike
05-14-2018, 08:18 PM
Everything a Colnago should be. Looks like it’s in great shape. IMHO the pinnacle of carbon production frames. The later iterations are a touch harsh for my measley pedaling power. The C40 is juuuuuuuuust right baby bear. . .

simplemind
05-14-2018, 08:49 PM
Colnago....damn pretty!

charliedid
05-14-2018, 09:10 PM
I'd run a basket and flat bars if I were you.

colker
05-14-2018, 09:18 PM
Is that a size 54cm?

oldpotatoe
05-14-2018, 09:30 PM
I'd run a basket and flat bars if I were you.

and this.

FlashUNC
05-14-2018, 09:32 PM
Can't wait to see that frame ruined with some top tube clamping.

weisan
05-15-2018, 02:26 AM
Can't wait to see that frame ruined with some top tube clamping.

Hey, we have young impressionable children watching this channel, don't scare them!

http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7071.jpg

weisan
05-15-2018, 02:27 AM
I'd run a basket and flat bars if I were you.

Sorry to disappoint you...

http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7080.jpg

R3awak3n
05-15-2018, 03:42 AM
weisan, hell yah dude. that frame is bonkers.

and the cheap group is cracking me up. good for you. I bet it rides fine and looks great actually.. ok the shifters are pointed way up and you need a silver post but thats it, looks pretty great to me

PaMtbRider
05-15-2018, 03:44 AM
I was with you on the Sora components. I hate to admit it as a Campy snob, but I've been riding a Serotta CSI lately with 105 10 speed and it works really well.

I'm ok with clamping the top tube because you are aware of what you are doing, and a C40 isn't a fragile frame that is going to instantly crack.

But please, lower the shifters on the bars.:fight:

beeatnik
05-15-2018, 03:46 AM
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/949/41403426044_b904dc9248_o.jpg

OtayBW
05-15-2018, 06:19 AM
But please, lower the shifters on the bars.:fight:2nd request! :rolleyes:

Blown Reek
05-15-2018, 06:28 AM
Or just rotate the bars until the shifters are level. Not like it'll ruin the aesthetics or anything.

weisan
05-15-2018, 07:39 AM
Sorry pals, the shifters had to stay where they are. My hands feel most natural and relaxed at this position, it delivers maximum comfort and optimal wattage, and besides it's not as extreme as some of you made it out to be. For the newer Shimano shifters, it's about right.
Anyway, it's my bika, I do what I want, case closed.

R3 pal, you are on to something. My first choice would be a silver post as well but the Colnago uses a rare 28.0 diameter. So it's either i use the nice carbon 28.0 post that Rob pal sent me along with the bike or I go source for a 27.2 shim. For the sake of time, I chose the former.

texbike
05-15-2018, 08:03 AM
Came in this afternoon.

My first Colnago.

Should have it built by tomorrow, almost done.

It already exceeded my expectations.

http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7030.jpg




http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7080.jpg

Looks great! Welcome to the club! It'll be interesting to see what you think of this iconic bike. If I remember correctly, you didn't like the 585, right?

Texbike

charliedid
05-15-2018, 08:06 AM
Have fun!

weisan
05-15-2018, 08:14 AM
Tex pal, it's not that I don't like the 585, it just doesn't do anything for my mojo. I am still a metal bike kinda guy at heart. Now, THIS! This is something else. As I looked over the Colnago frame last night before I started building it up, I was shocked to see the intricate details and the paint that went into this 15-yr-old bike. It was way ahead of its times, still is today in many respects.

weisan
05-15-2018, 08:17 AM
Have fun!

Thank you Charlie pal. I know you are just pulling my leg.

Keith A
05-15-2018, 08:19 AM
Tex pal, it's not that I don't like the 585, it just doesn't do anything for my mojo. I am still a metal bike kinda guy at heart. Now, THIS! This is something else. As I looked over the Colnago frame last night before I started building it up, I was shocked to see the intricate details and the paint that went into this 15-yr-old bike. It was way ahead of its times, still is today in many respects.Wei San pal, I have a C-50, but I've always been curious about the C-40 and your not helping me :eek:

weisan
05-15-2018, 08:28 AM
Wei San pal, I have a C-50, but I've always been curious about the C-40 and your not helping me :eek:

But I can bring it with me to Florida later this summer if you want, so you can try it out for yourself ....:rolleyes:

:p

RobJ
05-15-2018, 08:30 AM
Wei San pal, I have a C-50, but I've always been curious about the C-40 and your not helping me :eek:

After a few used ill-fitting road bikes in my early days (Motobecane, Olmo, Kestrel) I drove my Kestrel into my garage while still on the roof rack and the homeowners insurance covered full replacement which netted me a new 2001/2002 Rabobank C40 with Record and Neutrons. I rode that thing across Iowa in RAGBRAI and all over until it was stolen! Always had a weakness for the Colnagos since and that's why I am selling my C50 for my C40 project (plus it's very similar to my C59).

If you want to go truly authentic I have a D/A 7700 and 7400 group you could put on this one... :banana:

colker
05-15-2018, 08:32 AM
I want one.

weisan
05-15-2018, 09:01 AM
If you want to go truly authentic I have a D/A 7700 and 7400 group you could put on this one... :banana:

Rob pal, thank you again for making my dream come true. I owe you a debt of gratitude.

Thanks for the offer, I am good with Tiagra. I take a perverted pleasure in turning up the screw and making people riding on expensive bikes and gruppo suffer in the paceline.:p

93KgBike
05-15-2018, 09:03 AM
A little more weight can make a model even more beautiful.

That looks like it is fun to ride.

:cool:nago!

weisan
05-15-2018, 09:07 AM
A little more weight can make a model even more beautiful.



https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7EWk8EworEE/WmXP7Iq-uKI/AAAAAAAAkOE/IfvpeiA_phYyO94XAj5WzAQOsWBfzCB4wCLcBGAs/s1600/The%2BGreatest%2BShowman%2Bbearded%2Blady.gif

texbike
05-15-2018, 09:13 AM
As I looked over the Colnago frame last night before I started building it up, I was shocked to see the intricate details and the paint that went into this 15-yr-old bike. It was way ahead of its times, still is today in many respects.

Colnago paint is pretty cool, isn't it? Especially when it's one of the team paint schemes like Rabobank, Lampre, Mapei, Navigators, etc.

The paint on my C50 is pretty cool as well. It's the only C50 that I'm aware of in the States that has the tri-color paint scheme.

Texbike

enr1co
05-15-2018, 09:24 AM
Sorry pals, the shifters had to stay where they are. My hands feel most natural and relaxed at this position, it delivers maximum comfort and optimal wattage, and besides it's not as extreme as some of you made it out to be. For the newer Shimano shifters, it's about right.
Anyway, it's my bika, I do what I want, case closed.

Congrats on the new ride w-pal and good for you! “Proper” is set up the way you want for comfort-not just for it to look like a magazine, catalog pic or to appease forums. :D

glepore
05-15-2018, 09:41 AM
I think you're going to really enjoy the c40-traditonal Colnago handling with a pretty unique combination of comfort and responsiveness. And, yeah, the paint detail-particularly the fade from clear to color. Rode mine yesterday, always brings a grin.

Keith A
05-15-2018, 10:26 AM
Colnago paint is pretty cool, isn't it? Especially when it's one of the team paint schemes like Rabobank, Lampre, Mapei, Navigators, etc.

The paint on my C50 is pretty cool as well. It's the only C50 that I'm aware of in the States that has the tri-color paint scheme.

TexbikeNice. My C-50 has Dura-Ace 7800 as well :)

FR8CAR
05-15-2018, 11:39 AM
Colnago paint is pretty cool, isn't it? Especially when it's one of the team paint schemes like Rabobank, Lampre, Mapei, Navigators, etc.

The paint on my C50 is pretty cool as well. It's the only C50 that I'm aware of in the States that has the tri-color paint scheme.

Texbike

I like the red item in the garage.

weisan
05-15-2018, 12:47 PM
http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7113.jpg

Winning groupset.
http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7110.jpg

jtbadge
05-15-2018, 12:49 PM
That big pin on your chainring is supposed to be behind the crankarm, right? So the chain doesn't get stuck between the ring and arm?

AngryScientist
05-15-2018, 12:52 PM
it looks quite good!

actually a lugged carbon colnago was one of my first "good" bikes that i was able to ride and really sparked my love for riding. very nice.

the components dont matter. as long as they shift, it's good.

you do realize, however that that little nub on the big chainring is supposed to be positioned behind the crank arm though, right? it's intended purpose is to make sure a dropped chain doesnt get stuck between the crank arm and the CR.

Lionel
05-15-2018, 12:55 PM
Beautiful frameset. For the rest meh;)

ERK55
05-15-2018, 01:01 PM
Beautiful frameset. For the rest meh;)

I think what Lionel meant to say


needs Campy

Blown Reek
05-15-2018, 01:24 PM
That big pin on your chainring is supposed to be behind the crankarm, right? So the chain doesn't get stuck between the ring and arm?

No. It's oriented like that to ensure the chain gets stuck between the ring and arm.

charliedid
05-15-2018, 01:57 PM
Thank you Charlie pal. I know you are just pulling my leg.

I'm a leg puller :-)

colker
05-15-2018, 02:12 PM
If you ever decide decide it´s too small give me a call...;)

Beautifull frame.

texbike
05-16-2018, 10:31 AM
Nice. My C-50 has Dura-Ace 7800 as well :)

Yessir. That 7800 is good stuff! :)

I like the red item in the garage.

Just another distraction from getting stuff done. ;)

Texbike

RobJ
05-16-2018, 11:33 PM
Weisan pal. Here's the long-lost brother to that one you just picked up from me :banana: Just showed up today!

I figured this would go straight to a repaint, but surprised at the excellent condition and colors. I have to figure out how to sneak this to Austin next month :-)

https://i.imgur.com/XBcQgcxl.jpg

weisan
05-17-2018, 06:22 AM
Very nice, Rob pal.

I look forward to us getting together when you come to Austin. If it's too much hassle to bring your bike, don't worry about it, I got a few that will fit you nicely with some minor adjustments.

weisan
05-17-2018, 04:42 PM
Van Dessel Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

http://alicehui.com/bike/w_t_f/IMG_7214.jpg

http://alicehui.com/bike/w_t_f/IMG_7221.jpg

http://alicehui.com/bike/w_t_f/IMG_7215.jpg

http://alicehui.com/bike/w_t_f/IMG_7216.jpg

http://alicehui.com/bike/w_t_f/IMG_7217.jpg

http://alicehui.com/bike/w_t_f/IMG_7227.jpg

These are just some examples of tire/wheel options that I have in my garage that will fit the frame with plenty of room left.

700 x 43 RocknRoad
http://alicehui.com/bike/w_t_f/IMG_7210.jpg

Quasi Moto 27.5 x 2.0
http://alicehui.com/bike/w_t_f/IMG_7212.jpg

26 x 2.2
http://alicehui.com/bike/w_t_f/IMG_7213.jpg

weisan
05-17-2018, 04:53 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3k4jlgYUlGc/maxresdefault.jpg

OtayBW
05-17-2018, 06:59 PM
Just an observation, but your bar and lever position look (from this angle...) much different than what you set up on your Colnago. Much better to my eye...

Keith A
05-17-2018, 07:10 PM
Just an observation, but your bar and lever position look (from this angle...) much different than what you set up on your Colnago. Much better to my eye...I don't think that complete bike is Wei San's.

weisan
05-18-2018, 12:09 PM
Sorry Otay pal for the confusion. Here's mine.
And sorry again, i prioritize my bike first to ride on, second to look at.

http://alicehui.com/bike/w_t_f/IMG_7252.jpg

raygunner
05-18-2018, 01:05 PM
Those VD's look cool...what do they retail for?

Let's see a little drive-side action.

weightshift
05-18-2018, 01:48 PM
I kinda love that the pump goes between the twin top tubes.

nalax
05-18-2018, 04:05 PM
The V.D. looks great in orange. Looks like room for 650b+.

Weisan, your bikes are fun

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/51b3dc8ee4b051b96ceb10de/51ce6099e4b0d911b4489b79/5318c775e4b02dddf757eeb0/1394149505448/pee-wees-big-adventure-bike-is-for-sale-on-ebay-preview.jpg?format=1000w

Mustangski
05-19-2018, 12:17 AM
Sorry Otay pal for the confusion. Here's mine.

And sorry again, i prioritize my bike first to ride on, second to look at.



http://alicehui.com/bike/w_t_f/IMG_7252.jpg



Ride on or looking at...either way that Van Dessel rocks!

Love the twin top tube!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

weisan
05-19-2018, 03:40 AM
I kinda love that the pump goes between the twin top tubes.

http://alicehui.com/bike/w_t_f/IMG_7306.jpg

weisan
05-19-2018, 03:41 AM
Let's see a little drive-side action.

http://alicehui.com/bike/w_t_f/IMG_7307.jpg

weisan
05-19-2018, 04:25 AM
The wishbone B-stay seatstay design was introduced in 2002, so this bike is at least 16 years old.

Some very early first impressions from taking it through its paces on my usual route.

The thing that keeps reminding me throughout the ride is this:

"If you can't win on this bike today, you don't deserve to win anyway."

The C40 is a pure racing thoroughbred. It's predictable. It's responsive. You are not giving up on ANYTHING by racing it in today's race tracks or even among the pro peloton. I reckon Viviani will still contest favorably in the sprints and come up tops if he rides on this instead of the latest 2018 carbon-whatever special edition his competitors are on. Same with Niki Terpstra in the Tour of Flanders.

A well-designed bike is a well-designed bike.

I can say this a thousand times and it may never resonate with some people or get inside their heads.

You don't need to spend $8k to get the latest equipment in order to enjoy or get the most out of the sports. It's your money, U can spend it in any way you want but....there are tons of used bikes out there, some 10-15 years old, but they ride super nice and fully capable. Right now, I am so in love with my 15-yr-old Merlin Agilis that I wouldn't shed a tear if I get rid of all my bikes and just keep it as a daily driver for the next 10-15 years.

Now, on to the second point. I prioritize riding nice over looking good but if the bike comes with some insane level of artistry and craftsmanship, then it's just icing on the cake, extra bonus. This Colnago fits that category. It's got the complete package.

http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7163.jpg

I would much rather ride on something like this than the cookie-cutter these days - black, stealth, sharp, light, new, expensive.....er...boring. A lot of the bikes today looked almost the same to me. Zero personality.

http://carbonbike-diy.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Hight-quality-and-Hot-sale-frame-font-b-lightest-b-font-and-more-stiffer-carbon-RCA.jpg

I mean, don't get me wrong. I am not a retro-grouch. There's no stopping the forward march of time. I am a guy who advocates open-mindedness and always willing to try new things personally especially before I comment or complain about something, I like to back things up with some sort of direct personal experience or else I would just be pushing around hearsay, misinformation and repeating what others have said.

We got pals asking about this everyday: "hey I want to get a new bike, what are your suggestions?"

Please don't just point them to the newest and the latest in the market. Tell them to look at the classifieds. They are great bikes posted there almost everyday. So what if a bike is 10 years old and has an older gen components? That doesn't mean it's slow or bad.

Oh oh...another thing. This whole fitting thing. Yes, making sure that the bike fits you is important. But this whole fitting thing is not some black magic art we like to make it out to be that only a selected few possess. Once you understand how it works and what's within an acceptable range of parameters, it's easy to find and buy bikes that will work very nicely with your budget and serve your needs.

Ok, that's all I got to say so far. Time to get ready for my ride...it's gonna be hot! Been close to a 100 degrees almost the whole week. Will ride to the start about 25 miles, join the group ride for 57 miles, and ride back - will definitely cross over the century line (>100 miles) before it's all said and done.

See y'all later.

Gummee
05-19-2018, 08:50 AM
Weisan: I'll trade ya! Gonna be 'build an Ark' weather around the DC area for the next week or so. Grrr

Gonna head out on the whiz-bang hydro disc Di2 Cervelo with fenders on it 'cause I gotta go ride some hills to get ready for Hilly Billy. 4ish hours in the rain. Oh boy!

Hilly Billy don't stop for no rain, buddy! ...and if you're going to race in the rain, you'd better train in the rain.

(oh, and when you decide to sell that C40, let me know 1st wouldya?)

M

weisan
05-20-2018, 07:27 PM
Raining here in Austin, so instead of riding, I used the downtime to build a rear disc wheel for the Van Dessel. Plus the GravelKing 40 tires that I bought from a forum pal came in yesterday as well, perfect timing.

The rim is an old DT Swiss R1.1 that I got from the co-op. There were some deep gouges on the brake tracks but the rest of the rim seems fine so I decided to take it home thinking that I will re-purpose it as a disc wheel one day. Looks like today is just the day to do it.

In line with my past experience with using DT Swiss rims, really easy to build, takes almost half the time.

http://alicehui.com/bike/wheel/IMG_7320.jpg

http://alicehui.com/bike/wheel/IMG_7321.jpg

R3awak3n
05-20-2018, 07:53 PM
The wishbone B-stay seatstay design was introduced in 2002, so this bike is at least 16 years old.

Some very early first impressions from taking it through its paces on my usual route.

The thing that keeps reminding me throughout the ride is this:

"If you can't win on this bike today, you don't deserve to win anyway."

The C40 is a pure racing thoroughbred. It's predictable. It's responsive. You are not giving up on ANYTHING by racing it in today's race tracks or even among the pro peloton. I reckon Viviani will still contest favorably in the sprints and come up tops if he rides on this instead of the latest 2018 carbon-whatever special edition his competitors are on. Same with Niki Terpstra in the Tour of Flanders.

A well-designed bike is a well-designed bike.

I can say this a thousand times and it may never resonate with some people or get inside their heads.

You don't need to spend $8k to get the latest equipment in order to enjoy or get the most out of the sports. It's your money, U can spend it in any way you want but....there are tons of used bikes out there, some 10-15 years old, but they ride super nice and fully capable. Right now, I am so in love with my 15-yr-old Merlin Agilis that I wouldn't shed a tear if I get rid of all my bikes and just keep it as a daily driver for the next 10-15 years.

Now, on to the second point. I prioritize riding nice over looking good but if the bike comes with some insane level of artistry and craftsmanship, then it's just icing on the cake, extra bonus. This Colnago fits that category. It's got the complete package.

http://alicehui.com/bike/C40/IMG_7163.jpg

I would much rather ride on something like this than the cookie-cutter these days - black, stealth, sharp, light, new, expensive.....er...boring. A lot of the bikes today looked almost the same to me. Zero personality.

http://carbonbike-diy.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Hight-quality-and-Hot-sale-frame-font-b-lightest-b-font-and-more-stiffer-carbon-RCA.jpg

I mean, don't get me wrong. I am not a retro-grouch. There's no stopping the forward march of time. I am a guy who advocates open-mindedness and always willing to try new things personally especially before I comment or complain about something, I like to back things up with some sort of direct personal experience or else I would just be pushing around hearsay, misinformation and repeating what others have said.

We got pals asking about this everyday: "hey I want to get a new bike, what are your suggestions?"

Please don't just point them to the newest and the latest in the market. Tell them to look at the classifieds. They are great bikes posted there almost everyday. So what if a bike is 10 years old and has an older gen components? That doesn't mean it's slow or bad.

Oh oh...another thing. This whole fitting thing. Yes, making sure that the bike fits you is important. But this whole fitting thing is not some black magic art we like to make it out to be that only a selected few possess. Once you understand how it works and what's within an acceptable range of parameters, it's easy to find and buy bikes that will work very nicely with your budget and serve your needs.

Ok, that's all I got to say so far. Time to get ready for my ride...it's gonna be hot! Been close to a 100 degrees almost the whole week. Will ride to the start about 25 miles, join the group ride for 57 miles, and ride back - will definitely cross over the century line (>100 miles) before it's all said and done.

See y'all later.


its an interesting statement but for the price of a 16 year colnago you can get newer carbon... lets say, parlee, people are pretty much giving them away in the classifieds. I can't say anything about colnago because I never been on one but I think they are expensive, a 16 year old carbon bike should not cost $1000 which seems what C40s are 50s are going for. I bet they are great but its interesting that we are talking about bang for the buck but imo colnagos are the opposite of that.

as far as black carbon bikes, yes, not a fan. we need to have a little fun, black bikes are borinnnngggggg

weisan
05-20-2018, 07:56 PM
Good point, R3 pal. Yeah, Colnagos do fetch a premium. The Parlee you mentioned are great value.

weisan
05-21-2018, 07:18 AM
http://alicehui.com/bike/w_t_f/IMG_7335.jpg

C40_guy
05-21-2018, 07:33 AM
C40 looks great weisan!

Cicli
05-21-2018, 07:40 AM
http://alicehui.com/bike/w_t_f/IMG_7335.jpg

Looks good.
I had a green one. I hated it. Rode and handled like a big old truck. Eventually it broke where the top tubes meet the seat tube. Only steel frame I ever cracked. I gave it away.

oldpotatoe
05-21-2018, 07:42 AM
Looks good.
I had a green one. I hated it. Rode and handled like a big old truck. Eventually it broke where the top tubes meet the seat tube. Only steel frame I ever cracked. I gave it away.

A well-designed bike is a well-designed bike.

:eek:

weisan
05-21-2018, 07:44 AM
Looks good.
I had a green one. I hated it. Rode and handled like a big old truck. Eventually it broke where the top tubes meet the seat tube. Only steel frame I ever cracked. I gave it away.

Hahaha...thanks Cicli pal.

Cicli
05-21-2018, 07:57 AM
Hahaha...thanks Cicli pal.

Your looks like fun though. I just wasnt sure what to do with mine.

texbike
05-21-2018, 08:16 AM
The wishbone B-stay seatstay design was introduced in 2002, so this bike is at least 16 years old.

Some very early first impressions from taking it through its paces on my usual route.

The thing that keeps reminding me throughout the ride is this:

"If you can't win on this bike today, you don't deserve to win anyway."

The C40 is a pure racing thoroughbred. It's predictable. It's responsive. You are not giving up on ANYTHING by racing it in today's race tracks or even among the pro peloton. I reckon Viviani will still contest favorably in the sprints and come up tops if he rides on this instead of the latest 2018 carbon-whatever special edition his competitors are on. Same with Niki Terpstra in the Tour of Flanders.

A well-designed bike is a well-designed bike.

I can say this a thousand times and it may never resonate with some people or get inside their heads.

You don't need to spend $8k to get the latest equipment in order to enjoy or get the most out of the sports. It's your money, U can spend it in any way you want but....there are tons of used bikes out there, some 10-15 years old, but they ride super nice and fully capable. Right now, I am so in love with my 15-yr-old Merlin Agilis that I wouldn't shed a tear if I get rid of all my bikes and just keep it as a daily driver for the next 10-15 years.

Ok, that's all I got to say so far. Time to get ready for my ride...it's gonna be hot! Been close to a 100 degrees almost the whole week. Will ride to the start about 25 miles, join the group ride for 57 miles, and ride back - will definitely cross over the century line (>100 miles) before it's all said and done.

See y'all later.

So, how about a ride report on the Colnago? How did it do on the longer ride on Saturday? What did you think?

And yes, I agree - there are plenty of great riding, pre-owned bikes available at a fraction of the cost of new bikes that are more than capable. The C40 fits that bill and I would say that a person would struggle to find a new bike that rides much better than that Merlin. Mr. Kellogg knew what he was doing when he designed the geo on those bikes.

its an interesting statement but for the price of a 16 year colnago you can get newer carbon... lets say, parlee, people are pretty much giving them away in the classifieds. I can't say anything about colnago because I never been on one but I think they are expensive, a 16 year old carbon bike should not cost $1000 which seems what C40s are 50s are going for. I bet they are great but its interesting that we are talking about bang for the buck but imo colnagos are the opposite of that.


There is just a ridiculous number of exceptional bikes available at a fraction of what they sold for originally. Massive over-supply. I would say that the Parlees struggle to bring the prices that something like a Colnago brings due to the lack of name recognition with the general public. The potential market is much smaller. Parlee specifically seems to occupy a strange place between a better-recognized brand like Colnago and the "gotta have it" brands like Sachs, Vanilla/SV, Moots (yes, I did lump Moots in with Sachs - they seem to maintain their demand), Crumpton, and a few others. They're essentially in a "no mans land" from a brand perspective that erodes value. It's bad for sellers, but great for buyers who appreciate a nice bike.

Texbike

oldpotatoe
05-21-2018, 08:20 AM
Your looks like fun though. I just wasnt sure what to do with mine.

:)

Salsa_Lover
05-21-2018, 09:27 AM
Nice Frame :)

deserves better components though