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Clean39T
05-03-2018, 09:44 PM
http://philwood.com/products/headsethome.php

Anybody seen one in person?

I have a frameset it would work nicely on :)

joosttx
05-03-2018, 09:46 PM
They are as sexy as they seem. I really wish I put one on my Festka instead of a Chris King which is really weird to say. Yes, they are all that.

cadence90
05-03-2018, 10:06 PM
The lack of excessive branding (excessive even on CK SV) and the much-less-bulbous profile are so much nicer looking than CK, imo.

http://www.avt.bike/WebStore/graphics/00000001/!PW_Black.jpg

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/9c34fc_58b9890a399f4f1c83be1c7c4bd4a8d4~mv2.png_sr z_1391_1391_85_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_png_srz
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hollowgram5
05-04-2018, 08:12 AM
If that Ellis didn't come with the King in the pictures... A polished Phil would be a jewel up front!

Clean39T
05-04-2018, 08:37 AM
If that Ellis didn't come with the King in the pictures... A polished Phil would be a jewel up front!


It did not. I was going to move the silver CK from my Kirk to the Ellis (putting a black CK SV on the Kirk), but I think splurging on one of these may be a good call. Although, it would look best next to a polished stem, like a Nitto.. Hmm. I could also send Dave a stem to get painted the Ellis blue next time they’re doing a frame. That’s probably the winner combo.

dave thompson
05-04-2018, 10:31 AM
Velo Orange offers a very nice mirror polished headset. I’ve had one on my Milholland for 7 years, still beautiful and working perfectly. Surprisingly inexpensive.

dancinkozmo
05-04-2018, 12:36 PM
^ too bad about the ugly script

colker
05-04-2018, 12:53 PM
They are as sexy as they seem. I really wish I put one on my Festka instead of a Chris King which is really weird to say. Yes, they are all that.

CK looks good on mountain bikes.

cadence90
05-04-2018, 12:53 PM
^ too bad about the ugly script

No kidding.

"VO GRAND CRU, the champagne of headsets...." :rolleyes:
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dave thompson
05-04-2018, 01:13 PM
^ too bad about the ugly script

In practice it’s barely visible.

spinarelli
05-04-2018, 01:37 PM
I bet that would polish out with some Autosol.

^ too bad about the ugly script

cadence90
05-04-2018, 01:44 PM
In practice it’s barely visible.

I bet that would polish out with some Autosol.

In photos online, it still looks pretty visible; and in any case what has been seen cannot be unseen....

;)
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cadence90
05-04-2018, 01:46 PM
The PW stack height is on the upper end, if that is ever an issue, but at least not as bulky as the CK:

24.5mm: Campagnolo: 1 1/8" "Record Threadless"; total stack height = 24.5mm (upper = 12.3mm; lower = 12.2mm).

24.6mm: tune (Acros): 1 1/8" "Bobo"; total stack height = 24.6mm (upper = 12.4mm; lower = 12.2mm).

27.0mm: PMP: 1 1/8” “ST-05”; total stack height = 27.0mm (upper = 13.6mm; lower = 13.4mm).

28.0mm: Cane Creek: 1 1/8" "110 EC"; total stack height = 28.0mm (upper = 16.0mm; lower = 12.0mm).

28.5mm: Phil Wood: 1 1/8" "PW-HS"; total stack height = 28.5mm (upper = 15.5mm; lower = 13.0mm).

31.4mm: Chris King: 1 1/8" "NoThreadSet"; total stack height = 31.4mm (upper = 17.7mm; lower = 13.7mm).
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ERK55
05-05-2018, 08:24 AM
These do look very nice.
Website says they’re sold out.

bobswire
05-05-2018, 08:59 AM
Not to veer too far off course but for 1" threaded headsets I prefer the old standard Tange Levin NJS 1" Threaded Headsets which (I think) were copied after the old steel Campagnolo Record Strada headset but for that, I defer to Old Potato.

http://i66.tinypic.com/9u0z0h.jpg

spinarelli
05-05-2018, 11:16 AM
There’s a Phil on CL locally. So tempted to replace my black CK with it. This forum is not good for my wallet.

Clean39T
05-05-2018, 12:06 PM
There’s a Phil on CL locally. So tempted to replace my black CK with it. This forum is not good for my wallet.


Feel free to buy it cheap and sell to me :)

Clean39T
05-05-2018, 12:08 PM
The PW stack height is on the upper end, if that is ever an issue, but at least not as bulky as the CK:

24.5mm: Campagnolo: 1 1/8" "Threadless"; total stack height = 24.5mm (upper = 12.3mm; lower = 12.2mm).

24.6mm: tune (Acros): 1 1/8" "Bobo"; total stack height = 24.6mm (upper = 12.4mm; lower = 12.2mm).

27.0mm: PMP: 1 1/8” “ST-05”; total stack height = 27.0mm (upper = 13.6mm; lower = 13.4mm).

28.0mm: Cane Creek: 1 1/8" "110 EC"; total stack height = 28.0mm (upper = 16.0mm; lower = 12.0mm).

28.5mm: Phil Wood: 1 1/8" "PW-HS"; total stack height = 28.5mm (upper = 15.5mm; lower = 13.0mm).

31.4mm: Chris King: 1 1/8" "NoThreadSet"; total stack height = 31.4mm (upper = 17.7mm; lower = 13.7mm).
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My co-op had another NOS Record threadless headset, so I picked that up for $50 and will use that on the Ellis to start...the low stack is a bonus for sure...

cadence90
05-05-2018, 02:03 PM
These do look very nice.
Website says they’re sold out.

You mean the stainless steel version, right?
It looks like AVT has all the Phil headsets in stock, including stainless. (http://www.avt.bike/WebStore/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AVT&Product_Code=PW-HS&Category_Code=PW_HEADSETS)
But the price is listed as $150 across the board (ss are reg $170) so it would be worth confirming availability/price directly with AVT.

My co-op had another NOS Record threadless headset, so I picked that up for $50 and will use that on the Ellis to start...the low stack is a bonus for sure...
Good deal.

Some of you people have amazing co-ops nearby.
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livesadventure
05-05-2018, 04:05 PM
For another clean option check out the Cane Creek 110 - super minimal in both black and polished


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FlashUNC
05-05-2018, 04:22 PM
Cane Creek 110 is all but logo-less.

ColonelJLloyd
05-05-2018, 08:17 PM
Cane Creek 110 is all but logo-less.

It's still at the top of my list after seeing the Phil headset.