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fa63
04-02-2018, 02:41 PM
Looks good. We can finally say goodbye to those hideous RS505 hydraulic STI levers.

I wish they offered sub-compact (48/32, or even 46/30) crank options though.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/792/27318121398_e48884b0cc_o.png

Today’s road riders demand much more than pure on-the-rivet speed. They expect comfort, control and versatility from their bikes, and enjoyment and goal achievement to boot. 105 level riders expect the latest pro level features but they also want to do more with their bike than racing and training. So step forward the new 105 R7000 generation with customizable disc or rim brakes and wider cassette options to help you remain in comfort and control wherever you’re riding.

Coming with the high-end aesthetic and race characteristics of its Dura-Ace and Ultegra big brothers, the new 105 series also considers that most riders will use their bikes for purposes other than competitive racing. 105 is Shimano’s first level 11-speed groupset for those who are seriously committed to road bike riding, but that definition now becomes broader with the inclusion of superior handling and adaptable control to master different riding situations.

The biggest news for new 105 is the addition of disc brakes to the series line up. New flat-mount BR-R7070 calipers are compatible with ICE TECHNOLOGIES pads and UCI-compliant non-90 degree SM-RT70 rotors (including a new 140mm size) to offer greater cooling efficiencies. Brake operation is handled by new ergonomically shaped Hydraulic dual control levers (ST-R7020), matching the design of Ultegra ST-R8020 levers with a greater range of reach adjustment for different hand sizes. To provide even greater customisability, 105 R7000 offers a version of the dual control brake/gear lever (ST-R7025) to better suit smaller hands by being angled closer to the bar and taking more of an outboard position for better connection and to avoid interference with the handlebar drop during lever operation.

Whether from the rim brake (ST-R7000) or disc brake (ST-R7020/25) lever, gear shifts have been redesigned to offer faster and lighter shifts with a shorter stroke compared to the 105 5800 series. The front derailleur has a compact toggle (pivot) design, better tyre clearance and an integrated cable tension adjustment port (2-mm allen key) removing the need for an in-cable barrel adjuster. The optional long cage rear derailleur (RD-R7000-GS) can accommodate up to an 11-34T cassette and is designed with a low profile SHIMANO SHADOW RD style to tuck it below the cassette and chainstay.

Updates within the drivetrain include a new mid-compact 52-36T crankset, to add to the 50-34T and 53-39T cranksets, and new 11-30 (CS-R7000) and 10-speed compatible 11-34 cassette (CS-HG700-11) options to better suit gravel, adventure or CX riding. Together with this the inner crank ring has been positioned to reduce the effects of cross chaining or chain drop, better suiting bikes with disc brake criterium racing bikes.

Tim Gerrits, product manager at Shimano Europe: “Increased control and reaction were two points we concentrated developments on, combined with what people have always expected from 105, great versatility and value for riders. With 105’s suitability for a large portion of today’s diverse road bike styles we hope to unlock the potential of where and what it’s possible to ride on a road bike.”

New Shimano 105 R7000 items will be available on the market by June and comes in an appealing dual tone black colourway and an additional silver option for more classic bike styles.

R3awak3n
04-02-2018, 02:43 PM
that looks real good. And yes, those shimano shifters were probably some of the worst shifters in history. These look great though, the levers do look like the rs-685. wonder if they just trickled down that design for r7000

Also interested in the disc hubs...

fa63
04-02-2018, 03:50 PM
It says the design of the levers match that of the Ultegra R8020, which look pretty good IMO:

http://www.jensonusa.com/globalassets/product-images---all-assets/shimano/sl186b02-grey.jpg?w=1000&quality=85

zzy
04-02-2018, 04:52 PM
Disappointed there's no RX clutch derailleur. Looks like the 5801 FD revision was R7000 afterall. Hoping there's a similar 34-11 10-sp compatible cassette like the HG800 too.

Calnago
04-02-2018, 04:54 PM
Curious why your disappointed about no clutch? Do you plan on doing a lot of really bumpy off road stuff?

zzy
04-02-2018, 05:34 PM
Curious why your disappointed about no clutch? Do you plan on doing a lot of really bumpy off road stuff?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1vUoR6TFtI https://www.bikeradar.com/us/road/news/article/shimano-ultegra-rx-road-clutch-rear-derailleur-mechanical-and-di2-52018/

ceolwulf
04-02-2018, 06:08 PM
No electronic yet, or maybe still waiting to introduce?

Calnago
04-02-2018, 06:12 PM
Yes, I know what it is, and I know what it does. But unless I was riding super bumpy Roubaix type roads/terrain, I can’t see any benefit to it on decent pavement. Little harsher shifting. Plus, I didn’t follow what he was saying about it negating the need for a chain catcher up front. The chain falls off from the top as it is leaving the big ring. The clutch only tensions things from below. Can’t see how it would even come into play up front.

zzy
04-02-2018, 07:23 PM
The people who use the hydro brakes may be riding that sort of terrain, esp with a 34 in the back. Once they announced the RX yesterday, I was hoping the 105 would have the option too. That clutch works pretty great with the MTB groups, which is where the shadow design came from.

Calnago
04-02-2018, 07:28 PM
Yes, great for the mountain bike stuff for sure. And really rough fast rocky roads too... not so much for smooth gravel. But on decently paved roads with a road bike... pass.

fa63
04-02-2018, 07:31 PM
In their marketing language, they specifically mention "gravel, adventure or CX riding", so I agree that a clutch RD option would have been nice. Same reason a sub-compact crank option would have been nice as well.

saab2000
04-02-2018, 07:35 PM
In their marketing language, they specifically mention "gravel, adventure or CX riding", so I agree that a clutch RD option would have been nice. Same reason a sub-compact crank option would have been nice as well.

Agreed on both counts. If this is as nice as my 5800 it’ll be nice indeed, especially for the money. Amazing value.

tkbike
04-02-2018, 07:55 PM
Hopefully they perform better than the 8020’s which are total crap, I am trying to warranty my warinteed pair of 8020’s as I write this. Both sets totally failed this winter, I guess they are designed to only work in warm dry conditions. The “worst shifters ever...105’s” will go back on for the spring, and I’m sure they will work flawlessy...but I have never been about vanity, only how they work!...

I have never heard of failures of the 105’s so could you let us know why they are the worst shifters in history, I want to know of the failures before they happen. What failures are you referring to????????

that looks real good. And yes, those shimano shifters were probably some of the worst shifters in history. These look great though, the levers do look like the rs-685. wonder if they just trickled down that design for r7000

Also interested in the disc hubs...

fa63
04-02-2018, 08:03 PM
I have never heard of failures of the 105’s so could you let us know why they are the worst shifters in history, I want to know of the failures before they happen. What failures are you referring to????????

If he is like me, he was probably referring to the aesthetics of the RS505 shifters :)

What went wrong with your 8020 shifters; did they start leaking in the cold or something?

tkbike
04-02-2018, 08:22 PM
They didn’t leak, both times the lever snapped in the body... my personal opinion is that the smaller design and the mineral fluid freezing required more pressure to brake and the internals weren’t designed for the conditions.
The 105’s may not look great but they work, I’m OK with that!
None of my my bikes would win a beauty contest!

If he is like me, he was probably referring to the aesthetics of the RS505 shifters :)

What went wrong with your 8020 shifters; did they start leaking in the cold or something?

Calnago
04-02-2018, 08:29 PM
In their marketing language, they specifically mention "gravel, adventure or CX riding", so I agree that a clutch RD option would have been nice. Same reason a sub-compact crank option would have been nice as well.



Ok, didn’t read their marketing literature, but if the target market includes all the roughness I was mentioning, then yes... the clutch would probably be a good thing.

pasadena
04-02-2018, 08:39 PM
The clutch rear mech usually goes with a single front narrow/wide chainring (no chain catcher or front mech).
mtb/cx/groad single ring setups would benefit.

I agree with you, it's not needed on a road double setup.
Probably because Degenkolb is going to run a RX clutch rear mech at Paris-Roubaix, there is interest.


Yes, I know what it is, and I know what it does. But unless I was riding super bumpy Roubaix type roads/terrain, I can’t see any benefit to it on decent pavement. Little harsher shifting. Plus, I didn’t follow what he was saying about it negating the need for a chain catcher up front. The chain falls off from the top as it is leaving the big ring. The clutch only tensions things from below. Can’t see how it would even come into play up front.

peanutgallery
04-02-2018, 09:37 PM
available soon from Shimano North America's newest warehouse in the UK for $400 for the kit...free shipping

R3awak3n
04-03-2018, 12:01 AM
Hopefully they perform better than the 8020’s which are total crap, I am trying to warranty my warinteed pair of 8020’s as I write this. Both sets totally failed this winter, I guess they are designed to only work in warm dry conditions. The “worst shifters ever...105’s” will go back on for the spring, and I’m sure they will work flawlessy...but I have never been about vanity, only how they work!...

I have never heard of failures of the 105’s so could you let us know why they are the worst shifters in history, I want to know of the failures before they happen. What failures are you referring to????????

If he is like me, he was probably referring to the aesthetics of the RS505 shifters :)

What went wrong with your 8020 shifters; did they start leaking in the cold or something?


I was refering to looks but there is no denying, function over looks.
Maybe you had a bad shifter in your hands but who knows. I guess I am glad I just got the rs685s. I had been thinking, damn I should have waited for the ultegras.

sw3759
04-03-2018, 05:01 AM
looks pretty nice..glad to see they are still going to offer it up in silver too.looks like they will release it around june.


https://rideupgrades.co.uk/2018/04/02/shimano-announces-new-105-r7000/

Davist
04-03-2018, 06:09 AM
From the original post: "new 11-30 (CS-R7000) and 10-speed compatible 11-34 cassette (CS-HG700-11) options to better suit gravel, adventure or CX riding."

What does the 10 speed part mean?

stien
04-03-2018, 06:22 AM
11 speed cassette that fits S10 freehubs.

fa63
04-03-2018, 06:23 AM
What does the 10 speed part mean?


The 11-34 cassette will fit on a 10-speed hub.

Edit: stien beat me to it :)

mtechnica
04-03-2018, 07:57 AM
Want

mtechnica
04-03-2018, 07:59 AM
I wonder what this increased control and reaction is all about because 5800 is pretty much flawless already

oldpotatoe
04-03-2018, 08:07 AM
I wonder what this increased control and reaction is all about because 5800 is pretty much flawless already

Good question, as was 6800(?) and 9000...don't really get it.

fa63
04-03-2018, 08:26 AM
I wonder what this increased control and reaction is all about because 5800 is pretty much flawless already

Hydraulic discs; finally there will be an option for good, affordable ones.

bobswire
04-03-2018, 08:51 AM
They state," The front has been changed to give more tyre clearance and a helpful allen key cable adjustment, which hopefully means no need to mess around with in-line adjusters."

Will these be mid reach brake calipers (finally!) so you don't have go looking for BR 600/ 650 or the expense of velo orange grand cru long reach calipers or the funky moderation of Tektro long reach?

fa63
04-03-2018, 08:57 AM
I think they are talking about the front derailleur there, not the brakes. The previous, long arm FD design would limit tire clearance in some cases.

bobswire
04-03-2018, 09:05 AM
I think they are talking about the front derailleur there, not the brakes. The previous, long arm FD design would limit tire clearance in some cases.

Gotcha, I was wondering what the allen key cable adjustment had to do with brake clearance unless it was some new quick release.

mtechnica
04-03-2018, 10:39 AM
Yeah the 5800 FD design is questionable now that I think about it, although I’ve never had an issue with the arm actually hitting the tire.

andrewsuzuki
04-03-2018, 10:41 AM
Textured hoods on 105? What a time to be alive.

jdp211
04-03-2018, 11:01 AM
Yeah the 5800 FD design is questionable now that I think about it, although I’ve never had an issue with the arm actually hitting the tire.

I ran one on my gravel bike for a bit. No clearance issues with 48s, but I did have to cut a bit out of my rear fender to clear the front mech arm

benadrian
06-25-2018, 04:02 PM
I've been keeping my eyes open, and I've seen no mentions of this since the original press push in April. Any news?

Ben

thoreau
06-25-2018, 05:45 PM
Price is a little too close to 8000 for my liking - at least from what i am seeing currently.

madsciencenow
07-16-2018, 09:18 AM
I noticed biketiresdirect has some r7000 parts available and more coming on 21st.

Anybody see it elsewhere?


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livesadventure
07-16-2018, 11:56 AM
I had my local shop look it up me - everything is back ordered with estimated end of summer delivery