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oldpotatoe
03-12-2018, 06:01 AM
-pal:)

mcteague
03-12-2018, 06:08 AM
C'mon, you died a little on the inside...admit it! :D

http://cdn-webimages.wimages.net/0515447ceea23e526590ccc02c01f63c450d09-wm.jpg?v=3

Tim

oldpotatoe
03-12-2018, 06:10 AM
C'mon, you died a little on the inside...admit it! :D

http://cdn-webimages.wimages.net/0515447ceea23e526590ccc02c01f63c450d09-wm.jpg?v=3

Tim

I died a little when I didn't ride them the day before..had to use Campag DP brakes..SAD!:)

saab2000
03-12-2018, 06:28 AM
I rode a Taiwanese-made Giant with ENVE tubulars with 23mm tires and Shimano Dura-Ace 9000 components yesterday and I freaking loved it.

peanutgallery
03-12-2018, 06:53 AM
If I have to break out SAE wrenches to work on a bike...:)

soulspinner
03-12-2018, 07:08 AM
The prettiest brakes but I remember them as is that all there is? :eek:

fiamme red
03-12-2018, 08:43 AM
I rode with Campag Delta brakes today and didn't dieWere you on the trainer? :)

fignon's barber
03-12-2018, 08:47 AM
My friend rode Delta brakes and all I got was this lousy T-shirt:

soulspinner
03-12-2018, 09:36 AM
My friend rode Delta brakes and all I got was this lousy T-shirt:

:hello:

Clean39T
03-12-2018, 09:44 AM
In the rain??? :no:

jtakeda
03-12-2018, 10:12 AM
I rode them yesterday and I didn’t die but was thinking about switching....

bobdenver1961
03-12-2018, 10:37 AM
I rode with Campag Delta brakes today and didn't die

You still haven't stopped yet but your speed is being modulated!

OtayBW
03-12-2018, 10:40 AM
I did not ride them today, and I am dieing (to use the 'new' spelling) of jealousy...

jtakeda
03-12-2018, 10:42 AM
I did not ride them today, and I am dieing (to use the 'new' spelling) of jealousy...

Interested in buying a pair?

I’ve got 2 sets and am thinking of switching to campy skeleton or maybe ee if I can find a deal

superbowlpats
03-12-2018, 10:44 AM
Were you on the trainer? :)

:hello::hello:

oldpotatoe
03-12-2018, 10:59 AM
Were you on the trainer? :)

What’s this thing, a ‘trainer’?:)

Michael Maddox
03-12-2018, 11:07 AM
If I have to break out SAE wrenches to work on a bike...:)

For what it's worth, the cable binder on Campagnolo Delta brakes is actually a 3.5mm. I have a bag full of them and give them out to people who wish to die to experience the majesty of Delta.

You still haven't stopped yet but your speed is being modulated!

So long as you place your order EARLY ENOUGH, Deltas stop just fine.

OtayBW
03-12-2018, 11:18 AM
Interested in buying a pair?

I’ve got 2 sets and am thinking of switching to campy skeleton or maybe ee if I can find a deal Wow - or should I say YEOW! Very tempting to put on my De Rosa, but I'm not sure the 'vanity' (?) of having then is worth the possible loss of stopping power. I'm trying to circle the wagons bit RE spending right now, so let me kick this around a bit. Thanks for the heads-up though!

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drewellison
03-12-2018, 11:53 AM
Stopping is overrated.

choke
03-12-2018, 12:16 PM
I guess I should have been dead a long time ago....until I built up the Hampsten I only used Deltas starting somewhere around 1994. :)

Wow - or should I say YEOW! Very tempting to put on my De Rosa, but I'm not sure the 'vanity' (?) of having then is worth the possible loss of stopping power. I would venture a guess that probably 90% of the people who talk about the braking of Deltas have never ridden a bike with them. I think they work just fine...I have them on multiple bikes and wouldn't think of replacing them with dual pivots.

Tickdoc
03-12-2018, 12:20 PM
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oldpotatoe
03-12-2018, 12:28 PM
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WOW!!!:eek:

Tickdoc
03-12-2018, 12:35 PM
They work fine....see how they stopped peter in his tracks?

Spaghetti Legs
03-12-2018, 12:39 PM
It is well known that riding a bike with Delta brakes increases lifespan, just like drinking a fine wine.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4520/24656063408_ea6ae5b189_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DyLLDw)

bobdenver1961
03-12-2018, 12:46 PM
Stopping is overrated.

Stopping is for Nancies. :banana:

choke
03-12-2018, 12:49 PM
And they* fit fat tires...

http://cycle.ciocctoo.com/losa2.jpg

*If they're the CdA version

donevwil
03-12-2018, 12:59 PM
And they* fit fat tires...

Yes they do. Now if I could only find a bellow.

1697956527

glepore
03-12-2018, 01:10 PM
20 some years on my most recent set and I ain't dead yet.Thank god Koolstop is making Delta pads, my oem ones were rock hard.

Harbor Freight even includes a 3.5 in their more complete set of crap wrenches, so its not even a secret handshake anymore.

When I really want to cheat death I ride my old 19mm tubies with my Deltas-can't stop or corner in a hurry, but why hurry.

gdw
03-12-2018, 01:22 PM
You got lucky, that Harbor Freight 3.5mm wrench is actually supposed to be 3mm.

glepore
03-12-2018, 01:36 PM
https://www.harborfreight.com/hand-tools/hex-wrenches/36-pc-sae-metric-long-reach-hex-key-set-62171.html
Look closely at the grey set in the link. I was shocked, I've had mine probably 10 years now.
https://shop.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_25839.jpg

bigman
03-12-2018, 01:38 PM
Brakes
Speed adjusters

fiamme red
03-12-2018, 02:06 PM
It's time for someone to start a new thread: "I rode with Modolo Kronos brakes today and didn't die." :)

drewellison
03-12-2018, 02:14 PM
Or "I rode with a mixed Campy/Shimano drivetrain today and I survived the spontaneous combustion. It only scorched my ... "

It's time for someone to start a new thread: "I rode with Modolo Kronos brakes today and didn't die." :)

OtayBW
03-12-2018, 02:46 PM
I guess I should have been dead a long time ago....until I built up the Hampsten I only used Deltas starting somewhere around 1994. :)

I would venture a guess that probably 90% of the people who talk about the braking of Deltas have never ridden a bike with them. I think they work just fine...I have them on multiple bikes and wouldn't think of replacing them with dual pivots.Probably true, but then, that would be a ~$300 experiment...

choke
03-12-2018, 09:55 PM
Yes they do. Now if I could only find a bellow.Here you go....it's a crazy price but it's not like you can find these anywhere....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CAMPAGNOLO-C-RECORD-DELTA-BRAKE-SPRING-BARREL-ADJUSTER-BELLOW-BOOT-HOOD-CAMPY/291596698826?hash=item43e48484ca:g:Jx0AAOSw~bFWKZm x

Kontact
03-12-2018, 11:01 PM
The single most beautiful brake calipers of all time. Possibly the most beautiful component. The fact that it stops the bike at all seems like a rockin' bonus.

sw3759
03-13-2018, 12:19 AM
a little late to party..but i need to replace my original delta pads that have hardened a bit from age,what is generally considered best replacement for dry weather and alloy rim use by those that still use record delta's ?

donevwil
03-13-2018, 12:35 AM
a little late to party..but i need to replace my original delta pads that have hardened a bit from age,what is generally considered best replacement for dry weather and alloy rim use by those that still use record delta's ?

Kool Stop Salmons (http://www.koolstop.com/english/campidelta.html)are the fashizzle, but blacks will be an improvement to you crusty originals. I personally went with a set of mid 90's dual pivot holders with Kool Stop cartridges to play better with my wide rims.

martl
03-13-2018, 03:29 AM
i rode with Deltas, on 20mm tires, and with a Merckx cloth cap today. Cheers from the afterlife.

oldpotatoe
03-13-2018, 05:47 AM
a little late to party..but i need to replace my original delta pads that have hardened a bit from age,what is generally considered best replacement for dry weather and alloy rim use by those that still use record delta's ?

I have NOS replacements if you have the original holders..PM me..but pricey-$10 per.

Glad I started this..they are beautiful on my Merckx, work great. Like tubulars, not a black art to install and use.

El Chaba
03-13-2018, 05:56 AM
a little late to party..but i need to replace my original delta pads that have hardened a bit from age,what is generally considered best replacement for dry weather and alloy rim use by those that still use record delta's ?

Try filing off some of the pad surface with a file. If you are lucky, the hardening of the pads is not too deep and you might see greatly improved results with a quick resurfacing. They do harden with age; it's almost as if they got Mafac to make the pads.

sw3759
03-13-2018, 06:13 AM
Try filing off some of the pad surface with a file. If you are lucky, the hardening of the pads is not too deep and you might see greatly improved results with a quick resurfacing. They do harden with age; it's almost as if they got Mafac to make the pads.


thanks all ! i may try the file option to see if it makes it any better.i have tried snadpaper on other pads in the past but never made much difference

and oldpotatoe,yes i do have original pads and holders but wouldn't a nos delta brake pad already be almost as old as the orignal pads i have installed though ?

oldpotatoe
03-13-2018, 06:18 AM
thanks all ! i may try the file option to see if it makes it any better.i have tried snadpaper on other pads in the past but never made much difference

and oldpotatoe,yes i do have original pads and holders but wouldn't a nos delta brake pad already be almost as old as the orignal pads i have installed though ?

They are old but not dry and crumbly..another option is to get modern Campag holders and pads and replace..they don't look as good but fit and easier to get pads for. Even Jagwire holders/pads.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Shoe-Holder-and-Pads-for-Campagnolo-Super-Record-11-Speed-Brakes-Campy-Campag/190868120797?epid=1439611022&hash=item2c70a064dd:g:EioAAOSw0i5agVVn

jimcav
03-13-2018, 06:40 AM
thanks all ! i may try the file option to see if it makes it any better.i have tried snadpaper on other pads in the past but never made much difference

and oldpotatoe,yes i do have original pads and holders but wouldn't a nos delta brake pad already be almost as old as the orignal pads i have installed though ?

i ride delta when i go back to indiana as my '93 serotta is there. they stop fine. but the hardening is an issue--i imagine very soon i will need to replace the pads but using a file helped me. compared to modern brakes they are different, but they stop fine and it is only the initial few times where I notice it, then I am used to it and brake properly with them

El Chaba
03-13-2018, 07:01 AM
Just as a data point/observation....It seems to me that the Delta pads harden worse than Super Record/Cobalto pads of the same approximate age. I would think that they were made of the same compound, but maybe not. It would be nice if Koolstop introduced a delta pad. I'll try to take some measurements this evening to see if the Super Record pads or perhaps the Modolo pads would be an option with a little re-shaping on the grinding wheel.
One other item on a slight tangent....Does anybody remember that Campagnolo offered replacement pads for the Delta-for maybe a season or so- that were made of a sintered metal compound (similar to Modolo)? I wonder how they fare with age....

saab2000
03-13-2018, 07:04 AM
Mine stopped me fine but when Campagnolo made the switch to dual pivot there was no going back. They were more powerful and had massively better modulation in my experience living in the Alps, where braking power and modulation matter more than they do in a flat area.

My Delta brakes sit on display on the mantle over my fireplace today. They were most recently installed on my Hampsten single-speed bike last fall that has since been sold. That they were able to work on that bike made for long-reach calipers is a testament to the adjustability of the Record Delta brakes.

I don't know that they'll ever be in service again on a bike. (The Record hubs may well be pressed into service again.) They're 30 years old and there are better brakes available today.

Functional? Cool? Absolutely!

Great brakes? Let's sit down and drink beer and talk about it......

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austex
03-13-2018, 07:16 AM
.... It would be nice if Koolstop introduced a delta pad. ....

Like this:

http://www.koolstop.com/english/campidelta.html

oldpotatoe
03-13-2018, 07:28 AM
Just as a data point/observation....It seems to me that the Delta pads harden worse than Super Record/Cobalto pads of the same approximate age. I would think that they were made of the same compound, but maybe not. It would be nice if Koolstop introduced a delta pad. I'll try to take some measurements this evening to see if the Super Record pads or perhaps the Modolo pads would be an option with a little re-shaping on the grinding wheel.
One other item on a slight tangent....Does anybody remember that Campagnolo offered replacement pads for the Delta-for maybe a season or so- that were made of a sintered metal compound (similar to Modolo)? I wonder how they fare with age....

Not well..these and they dry out quickly..made in the late 80s, very early 90s. They were hard as rocks when brand new. "Synterized"..made for Delta and also Chorus Monoplaners.

El Chaba
03-13-2018, 08:31 AM
Like this:

http://www.koolstop.com/english/campidelta.html

Thanks! I was not aware that these had become available....

DCilliams
03-13-2018, 09:22 AM
Love my Deltas!

bigman
03-13-2018, 09:35 AM
Need a new thread - show us your bikes w Delta Speed adjusters.

jruhlen1980
03-13-2018, 09:41 AM
Or "I rode with a mixed Campy/Shimano drivetrain today and I survived the spontaneous combustion. It only scorched my ... "

I have a campy/shimano mixed drivetrain, a SRAM cassette and chain, and Tektro brakes.

Some people just want to watch the world burn. :banana:

Kontact
03-13-2018, 11:14 AM
I have a campy/shimano mixed drivetrain, a SRAM cassette and chain, and Tektro brakes.

Some people just want to watch the world burn. :banana:

Are those brakes labeled "Tektro", or are they the Campagnolo brakes that were made by Tektro?

Spaghetti Legs
03-13-2018, 01:53 PM
Like this:

http://www.koolstop.com/english/campidelta.html

I have the black ones on my set. That work fine but squeal like all get out. I had to tweak the toe in and sand them down to fix that.

jtakeda
03-13-2018, 01:56 PM
Thanks! I was not aware that these had become available....

+1

I just took the next gen pad holders and swapped them out.

I’ll have to use the originals with my 23mm wide rim spacer kit :p

ERK55
03-13-2018, 02:58 PM
Any suggestions about modern replacement pads for Monoplanar brakes??

Kontact
03-13-2018, 03:07 PM
Any suggestions about modern replacement pads for Monoplanar brakes??

That era (I believe) used the same pads as Nuovo Record - square dovetailed blocks. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

https://www.niagaracycle.com/categories/campagnolo-super-or-nuovo-record-brake-pads-set-4-fits-1970s-80s?utm_source=TPA%20On%20Google%20Shopping&utm_campaign=Top%20Placement%20Ads%C2%AE%20(SPLA)&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=People%20Searching%20For%20Bike%20Parts&utm_content=Google%20Shopping&product_id=98650&device=c&loc_physical_ms=9061300&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3uf4x5nq2QIVTYJ-Ch0HdA7REAQYASABEgKxEfD_BwE

bikingshearer
03-13-2018, 03:28 PM
I rode Deltas once and did not die. They came on a used complete bike I bought and all I wanted/needed was the frame, so I rode 'em the one time for giggles. The worked on the short, fairly flat ride, but I do think dual pivots work better.

I sold 'em because (1) that defrayed some of the purchase price and (2) I did not feel like figuring out how to adjust and work on them. On a bike, I think they look oversized and kind of clunky, especially from the side. But by themselves, they are just plain stunning.

bikingshearer
03-13-2018, 03:31 PM
That really needs to be on a 3Rensho. No wait, on a Zunow. Yeah, that's it - on a top drawer Zunow that looks like an explosion in a paint factory. You know, to complete that "totally over the top" look.

https://scontent-frt3-2.cdninstagram.com/vp/765fc894acb3050ccf8bd2bf149a49ce/5B458284/t51.2885-15/e35/28428713_1993625357565153_2997699817544613888_n.jp g

Polyglot
03-13-2018, 11:32 PM
I have three bikes set up with delta brakes, one of them with century deltas. They all stop the bikes consistently.

glepore
03-14-2018, 05:35 AM
Y'all really want to start a cold weather crapstorm?
Greg LeMond rode Delta brakes.

oldpotatoe
03-14-2018, 05:49 AM
That era (I believe) used the same pads as Nuovo Record - square dovetailed blocks. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

https://www.niagaracycle.com/categories/campagnolo-super-or-nuovo-record-brake-pads-set-4-fits-1970s-80s?utm_source=TPA%20On%20Google%20Shopping&utm_campaign=Top%20Placement%20Ads%C2%AE%20(SPLA)&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=People%20Searching%20For%20Bike%20Parts&utm_content=Google%20Shopping&product_id=98650&device=c&loc_physical_ms=9061300&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3uf4x5nq2QIVTYJ-Ch0HdA7REAQYASABEgKxEfD_BwE

They were similar but had a square cutout for the bolt that held the brake block holder onto rest of the caliper. Also rounded . Not hard to find.

oldpotatoe
03-14-2018, 01:09 PM
That era (I believe) used the same pads as Nuovo Record - square dovetailed blocks. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

https://www.niagaracycle.com/categories/campagnolo-super-or-nuovo-record-brake-pads-set-4-fits-1970s-80s?utm_source=TPA%20On%20Google%20Shopping&utm_campaign=Top%20Placement%20Ads%C2%AE%20(SPLA)&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=People%20Searching%20For%20Bike%20Parts&utm_content=Google%20Shopping&product_id=98650&device=c&loc_physical_ms=9061300&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3uf4x5nq2QIVTYJ-Ch0HdA7REAQYASABEgKxEfD_BwE

Saw the picture, could be early 90s, just before DP in 1995, the MP used rounded ones but early(mid 80s) used a hobo/Super Record ones. I’d have to look it up.

Hindmost
03-14-2018, 06:36 PM
That era (I believe) used the same pads as Nuovo Record - square dovetailed blocks. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

https://www.niagaracycle.com/categories/campagnolo-super-or-nuovo-record-brake-pads-set-4-fits-1970s-80s?utm_source=TPA%20On%20Google%20Shopping&utm_campaign=Top%20Placement%20Ads%C2%AE%20(SPLA)&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=People%20Searching%20For%20Bike%20Parts&utm_content=Google%20Shopping&product_id=98650&device=c&loc_physical_ms=9061300&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3uf4x5nq2QIVTYJ-Ch0HdA7REAQYASABEgKxEfD_BwE

Monoplanar? They (early Monoplanar) are similar to the ones shown in the link but they have the cut out recess for the bolt. These will work if one modifies them by cutting the recess.