A 10-year-old’s Pinarello Dogma F10

[fiamme red]

https://cyclingtips.com/2018/02/bikes-of-the-buncha-42cm-pinarello-dogma-f10/

When I was 10 years old, I was still riding a Schwinn with a banana seat. :)

But why does a 10 year old need a power meter? :confused:

https://cdn-cyclingtips.pressidium.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Pinerallo-F10-42cm-kids-bike-bikes-of-the-bunch-Cyclingtips-2018-8.jpg

[OldCrank]

I was all ready to see DENTIST, but dad is actually
<<< a key Australian Pinarello dealer >>>
so I'm suspecting no real $AU changed hands.

I'll bet these guys are well-received at youth races. :confused:

[R3awak3n]

kind of like kids now a days don't know what to do with cassettes and vinyl, will be interesting to see in 20 years, when someone hands them a mech geared bike

[chiasticon]

DA di2 front derailleur as a chain guide...?

https://media.thedailytouch.com/2016/06/burnmoney.gif

[mcteague]

Where does he go from there? One of the joys of just starting out is the lust for a better bike at some point.

Tim

[hummus_aquinas]

You know how "looks fun! get it dirty!" is a canned response for new bike day? This is definitely not the case. That said, I hope they take it off a three foot plywood ramp with no transition as any 10-year old might with a sick-ass bike.

[adub]

The Power Meter is a nice touch. And you'd think for a photo shoot they'd have the carbon hoops on the bike, not some crappy alloy training wheel.

[FlashUNC]

Everything about this is awesome.

[Jmq4]

It’s weird being jealous of a 10 year old, but nonetheless I am.

[Kontact]

If this is what you get when you're ten, what are your expectations in the future?

Of course, by thirteen cycling may seem the most passé of activities.

[bobswire]

I'll stay in my lane and refrain from making any comment other than say, lucky kid.

[earlfoss]

pfft no carbon rails for the seat? please.

Nice bike! And yeah, lucky kid. I detasseled corn for a summer to afford my first road bike. Hopefully this kid didn't have to! Worst job ever.

[fiamme red]

“Hudson rides Zwift multiple times a week, and knows his numbers. An hour effort sees him hold an average of 3.5 watts-per-kilo, with a 20-minute effort at 3.7 W/kg.”

When asked whether all the time on Zwift has Hudson at danger of not learning bike handling skills, Rowling says it’s a true concern for him, and he makes sure to get Hudson out on quiet and safe roads wherever possible, including the occasional club bunch ride. Hudson also attends club track racing across town during the week.I don't envy the kid very much. For me at that age, cycling was all about fun and exploration, not bettering my watts-per-kilo number.

[cadence90]

Why all the negative comments?

The father owns the shop; the shop is independent; the F10 fits the child; and in 10 more years, if he is not a pro, the child will be that much more experienced in the shop, able to carry on the family tradition well, and so serve customers even that much better.

I see nothing really so bad about any of this.
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[benb]

There is no harm in this, even if the Dad spent full boat on it you could argue that this is better than Dad buying a Corvette or something. And this is nothing compared to what gets spent on some kids sports. (Live away gymnastics academies and special "athletic" schools.)

But I could easily see this kid deciding he HATES HATES HATES cycling by the time he's 16 if Dad's trying to push him to "train" too much.

[batman1425]

From a functionality standpoint, I like the idea of electronic shifting for youngers ones that might not have the hand strength or reach to effectively shift cable actuated systems designed for adults. The satellite shifters are also a benefit. Gives them options for safe shifting as they learn to be comfortable riding and shifting on the hoods and switching hand positions. Lots of benefits for e-systems for younger riders.

Over the top? Absolutely - particularly the power meter - but I do see functional value in some of it for a younger rider.

[Kontact]

It isn't "harm" so much as the feeling that childhood should come with the excitement of not having every desire completely fulfilled, so you have reason to believe the future is your opportunity to reward yourself in a way that your parents did not.

"Spoiled" has more than one meaning.

[Lanternrouge]

I suspect this bike build is more about a bike shop owner having fun with his hobby as opposed to the kid wanting such a high end bike. I imagine this will be a pretty good deal when the kid outgrows it or potentially loses interest.

[cadence90]

If one doesn't personally know the father and the son, and their relationship/teachings/expectations/etc., then why criticize the gift at all? It seems quite arrogant to do so. Who knows, perhaps they both have a deep and honest love for the sport and the kid dreams of being the next Adam Hansen. If this bicycle helps him get there, more power to them/him then.

This isn't exactly Daddy giving Jaden Smith another starring role in another crap movie....
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[zennmotion]

Look, my generation has pretty much f###kd up this kid's generation, so if a new chi-chi sled that's way better than anything in my garage can help convince him not to obliterate social security and medicare, let him ride the bike. Better that than thumb calluses from abusing his iphone...

[Kontact]

If one doesn't personally know the father and the son, and their relationship/teachings/expectations/etc., then why criticize the gift at all? It seems quite arrogant to do so. Who knows, perhaps they both have a deep and honest love for the sport and the kid dreams of being the next Adam Hansen. If this bicycle helps him get there, more power to them/him then.

This isn't exactly Daddy giving Jaden Smith another starring role in another crap movie....
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Why criticize the criticisms? Are they actually being directed at the people involved, or is this on a discussion forum where it simply doesn't matter?

[Bentley]

I used to play much more golf than I do today, about 10 year’s ago a young kid (12 hrs old) walks up to the first tee with a bag of clubs that had to be worth about 3 grand. Clearly that is less than this bike, but that was 10 years ago. Anyway. The kid was nice, very respectful and honestly a pleasure to spend time with.

Similarly, I have spent stupid sums to keep my girls in cheerleading, dance and ultimately Debutantes.

My point, I’d rather spend money on my kids, doing something I am proud to talk about than the alternative.

BTW, I ride with a group and one of the guys brings his 10yr old along. Kid is great.

[saab2000]

https://cyclingtips.com/2018/02/bikes-of-the-buncha-42cm-pinarello-dogma-f10/



But why does a 10 year old need a power meter? :confused:



Why does this athlete have to slum it with 9000? If his father loved him he’d have 9100. Disgraceful.

[bitpuddle]

That tiny stem is going to make it twitchy. Someone this small should be running 650b wheels.

[parris]

This thread reminds me of a vintage sporting clays shoot I was at almost 20 years ago at Orvis Sandanona. The squad in front of us had a boy that was around 13-14 there with his dad. The kid was shooting an English Best with a fitted stock which at the time was easily a 20k proposition. For them it was much the same financially/value wise as it was for us that were using much less expensive gear.

[ultraman6970]

I have to agree, i put a stem that is that short in my kids bike and i had to get the stem as down as posible to get the thing to ride better, good they grew and probably will be able to put a longer stem this year. Stem is way too short that for the kids to turn tight they need to ever steer...

650 is kind'a ideal but the era of 650 is pretty much gone since a while for road bikes. Had hard times finding stuff... or frames were too big or wheels were not available for reasonable price, then noticed that even in new stuff 650 was hard to find. 650 was a phase that is gone, just like how is going to happen with road discs :P


That tiny stem is going to make it twitchy. Someone this small should be running 650b wheels.

[unterhausen]

I'm old enough to remember when 10 year old racers had 24" wheels with tubulars. I guess that was one advantage of the baby boom, it made it economic to make bikes like that. I was a large kid at 10, but I'm pretty sure I couldn't get on a 700c bike. This kid is going to be a giant.