Which longer-reach brakes w Chorus 11?

[Clean39T]

Tried searching and didn't come up with anything..

What are the top longer-reach (47-57mm) brakes to use with Chorus 11 ergos?

Tire clearance will be for ~33s.

Grand Cru? Or is there a model of Tektro's that are good?

[AngryScientist]

they all work fine.

in order of preference:

TRP 957
VO grand cru
the tektros are OK too.

[AngryScientist]

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[Clean39T]

they all work fine.

in order of preference:

TRP 957
VO grand cru
the tektros are OK too.

Springs are good and strong on those TRPs to snap the levers back into place?

I hated ZG brakes with Campy levers...

[AngryScientist]

Springs are good and strong on those TRPs to snap the levers back into place?

I hated ZG brakes with Campy levers...

yea, they're fine. springs just as strong as any campy brake.

[pavel]

I have the trp 957 with chorus 11 levers, they feel and stop great.

[echelon_john]

TRPs are great. Spring weight is fine; no slop.

[andrewsuzuki]

RKP prefers the Grand Cru to the TRP 957 and 559:

http://redkiteprayer.com/2016/08/boarding-house-reach/

However, the TRP 957 has slightly better vertical tire clearance than the Grand Cru:

http://blackmtncycles.com/clearance-pt-ii-road-frames/

[855]

Grand Cru?

the best!

[Mzilliox]

I have tried all of these brakes out and i use TRPs. they are better than gran crus, i dont care what any of these guys say. they simply are. they grab hard on my Laivecase, and i have specced them with a whisky long reach fork on my next bike i like them so much.

these brakes are better than your campy or dura ace brakes in terms of stopping you. it just is

[Big Dan]

Don't like the RG957 at all.
R600 and R650's all day long.

[PNW]

Springs are good and strong on those TRPs to snap the levers back into place?

I hated ZG brakes with Campy levers...

If I ever go weight weenie...I’ve considered ZG. What didn’t you like? Have you compared them to other levers?

[El Chaba]

Mafac Competition.

[Mzilliox]

If I ever go weight weenie...I’ve considered ZG. What didn’t you like? Have you compared them to other levers?

zero gravity? toss a coin on if they work! their weight reduction isn't enough to try to set them up properly. I had them work ok on one bike and could not get them to work at all on the Seven. not even a little. then I set up some old ee brakes and no problems. :bike:

[Mzilliox]

Don't like the RG957 at all.
R600 and R650's all day long.

Im curious what deficiency you found with these brakes over the shimanos? the shimanos are quite good, but i believe heavier with not as much clearance... i could be totally wrong though, the set of 600s i had were older.

[Big Dan]

Im curious what deficiency you found with these brakes over the shimanos? the shimanos are quite good, but i believe heavier with not as much clearance... i could be totally wrong though, the set of 600s i had were older.

To me they are spongy and weak.
I have pair, but wouldn't buy another one.
The 600/650 feels just like a short reach one.

[Ken Robb]

This more proof of the old adage: "Opinions are like elbows: everybody has a couple." OK, I cleaned that up for publication. :banana:

[Clean39T]

Well, I'd never mix Shimano brakes and Campy levers for fear of cracking the universe (feel bad enough about my Duracci pedals..). That silliness aside though, seems I should go with the Oregonian wisdom of Mr. Zilliox and try out the TRPs...he has yet to steer me wrong, so there's that too.

I have been offered the Grand Cru's lightly used and with new salmon pads for $100 - should I pick those up just to try head to head and pass them on without much risk here if I decide not to use them? Which is a long way of asking...what's their fair-market-value used?

[Mzilliox]

Well, I'd never mix Shimano brakes and Campy levers for fear of cracking the universe (feel bad enough about my Duracci pedals..). That silliness aside though, seems I should go with the Oregonian wisdom of Mr. Zilliox and try out the TRPs...he has yet to steer me wrong, so there's that too.

I have been offered the Grand Cru's lightly used and with new salmon pads for $100 - should I pick those up just to try head to head and pass them on without much risk here if I decide not to use them? Which is a long way of asking...what's their fair-market-value used?

grab em, splitting hairs really.

[Mzilliox]

To me they are spongy and weak.
I have pair, but wouldn't buy another one.
The 600/650 feels just like a short reach one.

i can't argue that... only offer my experience differs:beer:

[R3awak3n]

I can confirm Gran Crus work VERY well with campy.

[NYCfixie]

This more proof of the old adage: "Opinions are like elbows: everybody has a couple." OK, I cleaned that up for publication. :banana:

As my grandfather used to say, "it's only advice if a person asks for it, otherwise it is just your opinion".:bike:

[NYCfixie]

Well, I'd never mix Shimano brakes and Campy levers for fear of cracking the universe (feel bad enough about my Duracci pedals..). That silliness aside though, seems I should go with the Oregonian wisdom of Mr. Zilliox and try out the TRPs...he has yet to steer me wrong, so there's that too.

I have been offered the Grand Cru's lightly used and with new salmon pads for $100 - should I pick those up just to try head to head and pass them on without much risk here if I decide not to use them? Which is a long way of asking...what's their fair-market-value used?

I can offer up a pair of very lightly used grey TRPs for $100 if you want to do a true side by side. I installed some black ones in their place.

[beeatnik]

Clean, get ready to fear for your life. Or at least try to avoid riding in traffic. When I was rocking Campy and long reach brakes, I crashed into an ambulance which pulled a right-hook on me. Well, the bike crashed as I was able to jump off in time. If you're used to riding race bikes with premium brakes, the stopping power of long reach brakes will, um, underwhelm you.

[Clean39T]

grab em, splitting hairs really.


Grand Cru are silver and I was thinking I wanted black for this application - will PM you for a second opinion on that..

[mistermo]

Paul's!! Just to add another dissenting opinion.

https://paulcomp.com/shop/components/racer-medium/

[Mzilliox]

Clean, get ready to fear for your life. Or at least try to avoid riding in traffic. When I was rocking Campy and long reach brakes, I crashed into an ambulance which pulled a right-hook on me. Well, the bike crashed as I was able to jump off in time. If you're used to riding race bikes with premium brakes, the stopping power of long reach brakes will, um, underwhelm you.

thats crazy talk. But we are talking mid reach, not long reach. I run the TRPs on my all road gravel thingy, no issues at all ever stopping. Other brakes i use around here are Campagnolo record, Paul Touring cantis, Tektro cantis, trp mini vs (strongest stoppers), shimano 600s, and ee brakes.

The TRP 8.4 Mini Vs are the strongest. it be a hard compare between my TRP mid reach and Campy record brakes for second. both do the job just fine with no squealing.

I have had literally zero stopping issues on 20 percent decents on gravel or road. those of you who fear for your lives did something wrong when you set them up. thats all i can say about that.

[beeatnik]

^long, mid, I'm talking about 47-57 arms that flex like a mofo. they're not inspiring for panic stops.

[wc1934]

Went thru the same decision making about a year ago - both are fine - I went with the mid reach TPR's because to me they looked sleeker. The Grand cru seemed bulky.

[andrewsuzuki]

But we are talking mid reach, not long reach.

Hmm, Sheldon Brown and a few other sources say 47-57mm is long reach, and 57-73mm is extra long reach. Has that changed recently?

[choke]

Paul's!! Just to add another dissenting opinion.

https://paulcomp.com/shop/components/racer-medium/We have a winner.

[merckx]

Don't like the RG957 at all.
R600 and R650's all day long.

This was my experience as well. RG957s have more clearance around the arch for mudguards, but R650s have more stopping power and modulation.

[moobikes]

I have the TRP957 with Campag 10speed Ergos. Absolute crappiest brakes I have ever used. The brakes flex a lot in all the wrong places and the springs don't even coil in a neat manner. They just drive me nuts just looking at them. Tektro has been making ****ty brakes for decades.

[Andy340]

Have black VO Grand Cru with Yokozuna Reaction cables - work really well with Chorus 2015 levers and no shortage of stopping power (alu rims though)

[VoyTirando]

We have a winner.

I have Racer Mediums paired with Record 10 shifters and they're simply awesome. Lots of modulation, lots of power when you need it. A little fiddley to set up, as they're center pulls and so you need cable hangers, but they're great. I confess I don't love how they look, even in the matte silver, but they inspire a lot of confidence.

[slup]

I use the tektro r539 together with campa athena shifters. Works well.