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Cicli
01-11-2018, 06:54 AM
So,
I picked up Slim Chance frameset. Thinking of going all modern for components. Likely Ultegra 6800 and deeper carbon wheels.
What are peoples thoughts on these builds?
I like the steel frame look with carbon wheels and the ride and performance of newer components and wheels. Nostalga isnt really in the cards for this as it was originally built with 6500 Ultegra. I dont mind swapping that stuff out as long as it will get ridden and used.
Anyone have any input of something like this?

Hilltopperny
01-11-2018, 06:58 AM
I say go for it. 6800 is a tough group to beat at the performance per dollar ratio and I'm sure it'll look good on a round tubed steel bike.

ls1togo
01-11-2018, 07:25 AM
I say go for it too!...
Here was mine (since sold)

R3awak3n
01-11-2018, 07:29 AM
One of my favorite bikes here was a celeste max lugged bianchi with deep carbon wheels.

Personally I really like the look

FlashUNC
01-11-2018, 08:08 AM
Do it.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1680/24956099662_f842562e42_b.jpg

JLQ
01-11-2018, 08:14 AM
Go for it, you'll love it. Let's see that frame.

providence
01-11-2018, 08:25 AM
This was to be my winter build. Finished a bit early... Ultegra 8000. Guessing you’d be looking at an end product some what similar?

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4739/39507896952_2b551d55a9_c.jpg

weisan
01-11-2018, 08:27 AM
I intend to beat the hell out of em' in our group ride this weekend with this 25 pounder.

jtbadge
01-11-2018, 08:36 AM
In favor.

https://www.pedalroom.com/p/merckx-mx-leader-29250_15.jpg

hollowgram5
01-11-2018, 09:34 AM
One of my favorite bikes here was a celeste max lugged bianchi with deep carbon wheels.

Personally I really like the lookYup, one of mine too. That's Zachary's old bike.

I thought for years I'd put deep carbon wheels on my Tommasini, never ended up happening. I did run my Enve 25s on it and have run my Campy Bullet 50s on my Koga MAX bike.

Luwabra
01-11-2018, 09:41 AM
I love the look. There was a Sachs here somewhere w deep carbon wheels that blew my mind. Also jt’s^ is BA IMO. I say why not blend the two and enjoy the historic frame qualities and modern shiftiness.

joosttx
01-11-2018, 09:43 AM
This was to be my winter build. Finished a bit early... Ultegra 8000. Guessing you’d be looking at an end product some what similar?

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4739/39507896952_2b551d55a9_c.jpg

Nice...

binxnyrwarrsoul
01-11-2018, 09:58 AM
I concur, in favor. The suppleness of a lugged frameset with tight quick shifting modern components and stiff, fast wheels is a great combination. Ime, of course, ymmv.

CDollarsign
01-11-2018, 10:05 AM
I much prefer the look of my Merckx with my 8 speed record group, but I much prefer the ride and functionality you get with a new group. I was worried black / carbon with this frame would detract from the aesthetic but I actually like it a lot now...

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KarlC
01-11-2018, 10:42 AM
I love the RetroMod look of vintage steel with deep carbon wheels.

The 1st 2 photos are my Master X Lite with DA 25th Anniversary that I may be updating to Campy 11spd soon, although the DA 9spd works perfectly.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4657/24764365427_d14a9d54b9_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DJkR4H)Master 8.20.16 (https://flic.kr/p/DJkR4H) by [/url], on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4656/24764366647_0cbed7514b_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152286819@N02/)20170826_185116_resized (002) (https://flic.kr/p/DJkRqK) by , on Flickr

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Here are some others that you may like .......

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4604/24764368007_53187c70e1_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152286819@N02/)159680921 (https://flic.kr/p/DJkRQc) by , on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4760/24764370727_c20ba33174_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152286819@N02/)badyqy3a (https://flic.kr/p/DJkSD6) by , on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4667/24764373267_befece51ec_z.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152286819@N02/)colnago-master-dandw-1 (https://flic.kr/p/DJkToT) by , on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4663/25761247908_7de00d3c66_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152286819@N02/)DSC_1657 (https://flic.kr/p/Ffr8uG) by , on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4757/24764380197_b4062864b1_z.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152286819@N02/)Nitto B123 and Jag stem combo, Paul e-lever, Brooks swift saddle,and BLB leather bar tape (https://flic.kr/p/DJkVsn) by , on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4614/24764383237_9b2e5473c2_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152286819@N02/)ShowOfferImage.asp (https://flic.kr/p/DJkWmM) by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/152286819@N02/], on Flickr

Black Dog
01-11-2018, 10:55 AM
How can you go wrong when retro modern just looks so right. :cool:

https://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1697948511&stc=1&d=1509461778

Imaking20
01-11-2018, 11:18 AM
Damn, I really need a saronni bike..

rrudoff
01-11-2018, 11:41 AM
Max with 6800 Shows ITM stem, but now all Nitto cockpit and seatpost, TB-14 rims-works great

KarlC
01-11-2018, 11:53 AM
Kinda cool what this guy did with his Serotta Colorado Legend Ti.....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Serotta-Colorado-Legend-Titanium-Road-Bike-Campagnolo-Record-Reynolds-Carbon/173029391731?hash=item28495afd73:g:tMQAAOSwdnZaCiu M

hellvetica
01-11-2018, 11:58 AM
I like this thread. Do it.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4236/35699591865_86537fbe32_h.jpg

Look585
01-11-2018, 12:48 PM
11s DT Shifting, 5 generations of Dura Ace represented.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7676/26886714950_98e47200fa_z_d.jpg

DCilliams
01-11-2018, 02:42 PM
[B]I tried retro once...[B]

azrider
01-11-2018, 03:41 PM
Do it.

shinomaster
01-11-2018, 03:55 PM
So,
I picked up Slim Chance frameset. Thinking of going all modern for components. Likely Ultegra 6800 and deeper carbon wheels.
What are peoples thoughts on these builds?
I like the steel frame look with carbon wheels and the ride and performance of newer components and wheels. Nostalga isnt really in the cards for this as it was originally built with 6500 Ultegra. I dont mind swapping that stuff out as long as it will get ridden and used.
Anyone have any input of something like this?

new parts are so much better!

Jeff N.
01-11-2018, 04:01 PM
I call it "Neo-Retro".

andeww
01-11-2018, 04:04 PM
very nice
i need to run some deep wheels before i die, purely for cosmetic reasons

old_fat_and_slow
01-11-2018, 04:08 PM
New components ... sure.

Deep carbon wheels on steel frame... I wouldn't, but I see others do.

YMMV.

m_sasso
01-11-2018, 04:16 PM
I am a big advocate and author of retro rockets, however I do have one aspect I do not like in the smallest sense and that is the use of modern thread less dog bone stems on lugged and small bone tubed frames.

They may be functional and efficient for bar changes however I say they look terrible and destroy the “look” and won't do it except to tune a fit.

Like the Sachs above, beautiful bike but that "turd log" sitting on the head tube just extinguishes the aesthetic, she ant got the "look"!

KarlC
01-11-2018, 04:30 PM
I am a big advocate and author of retro “rockets” however I do have one aspect I do not like in the smallest sense and that is the use of modern thread less “dog bone” stems on lugged and small bone tubed frames.

They may be functional and efficient for bar changes however I say they look terrible and destroy the “look” and won't do it except to tune a fit.

retro “rockets” is this a book ? Got a link ?

I agree some threadless stems can be to fat and not match the tubing.

Anyone got some suggestions on some skinny stems in -17 degree ??

hellvetica
01-11-2018, 04:32 PM
Those old timey 1" threaded stems cannot take 31.8 bars. Plus yuck.

jtbadge
01-11-2018, 04:42 PM
retro “rockets” is this a book ? Got a link ?

I agree some threadless stems can be to fat and not match the tubing.

Anyone got some suggestions on some skinny stems in -17 degree ??

The Kalloy stem isn't bad if you have to have 31.8 bars. Super light, too.

https://fairwheelbikes.com/fair-wheel-kalloy-uno-stealth-stem/

KarlC
01-11-2018, 05:37 PM
The Kalloy stem isn't bad if you have to have 31.8 bars. Super light, too.

https://fairwheelbikes.com/fair-wheel-kalloy-uno-stealth-stem/

Yes I have 1 on my Master X Lite now, its looks good but I would like to find something better.

m_sasso
01-11-2018, 05:50 PM
I have tried most everything from the narrow tube Deda Superleggera to the Extralight, even hand mirror polished Al stems trying to get the finish and "look" correct and they all just don't cut it with a lugged, small tubed frame. Ugly!

choke
01-11-2018, 05:55 PM
New components ... sure.

Deep carbon wheels on steel frame... I wouldn't, but I see others do.

YMMV.

I do have one aspect I do not like in the smallest sense and that is the use of modern thread less dog bone stems on lugged and small bone tubed frames. +11ty billion to both of these

bikingshearer
01-11-2018, 06:02 PM
New components ... sure.

Deep carbon wheels on steel frame... I wouldn't, but I see others do.

YMMV.

This.

Old-timey steel frame plus old-timey components rocks . . . at Eroica. Old-timey-steel frames and modern components (10sp Campy for me) rocks the other 364 days of the year.

dbh
01-11-2018, 06:03 PM
I am a big advocate and author of retro rockets, however I do have one aspect I do not like in the smallest sense and that is the use of modern thread less dog bone stems on lugged and small bone tubed frames.

They may be functional and efficient for bar changes however I say they look terrible and destroy the “look” and won't do it except to tune a fit.

Like the Sachs above, beautiful bike but that "turd log" sitting on the head tube just extinguishes the aesthetic, she ant got the "look"!

Got to agree on this. I feel like if you're going to embrace the whole neo-retro thing, than quill stems are part of the package. Otherwise threadless stems on adapters just look out of place on a small tubed racing bike from the 80s or 90s.

Tickdoc
01-11-2018, 06:45 PM
Got to agree on this. I feel like if you're going to embrace the whole neo-retro thing, than quill stems are part of the package. Otherwise threadless stems on adapters just look out of place on a small tubed racing bike from the 80s or 90s.

*unless you don’t have the original fork, then you get a pass.

Kontact
01-11-2018, 06:50 PM
Those old timey 1" threaded stems cannot take 31.8 bars. Plus yuck.

Why do you need 31.8 bars? They're only that wide to make it safe to use carbon, which is rarely much lighter than alloy bars.

Kontact
01-11-2018, 06:52 PM
Got to agree on this. I feel like if you're going to embrace the whole neo-retro thing, than quill stems are part of the package. Otherwise threadless stems on adapters just look out of place on a small tubed racing bike from the 80s or 90s.

Can't the bike just look like they did in the '90s when then came with threadless 1" forks? Or were those bikes just made wrong?

855
01-11-2018, 07:06 PM
go for it!

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4266/35315852811_0444291e17_b.jpg

patfl1
01-11-2018, 07:57 PM
Agree, go for it. Classic tig frame, quill stem, and modern group = perfection


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Cicli
01-11-2018, 08:14 PM
I cant bring myself to use an adapter for the stem. That will stay once I have what I want figured out. The rest will be modern.

weisan
01-11-2018, 08:24 PM
http://www.alicehui.com/bike/Stems/IMG_4421.JPG

ERK55
01-11-2018, 09:25 PM
^^^^ 2 observations:

A sea of lovely level top tube bikes.
Someone here has a Conago problem.

GOTHBROOKS
01-11-2018, 09:50 PM
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7193/6799093010_1d0f232fb5_b.jpg
brazed by the hair bandit himself.

Hakkalugi
01-11-2018, 10:18 PM
Here’s my fleet of neo-retro Ibis (Ibii?). The blue Hakkalugi is Red 1x10 44-11/42, the orange Spanky is eTap, and the green Hakkalugi is Rival 1x10 (since sold). The Spanky is the best road bike I’ve ever ridden, period. Silky smooth, super responsive, glides effortlessly.

happycampyer
01-11-2018, 10:27 PM
This bike is now sporting 11 speed and lower profile wheels, but this is in the retro-modern category:

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-csDFP8J/0/b052106a/XL/i-csDFP8J-XL.jpg

and here's another:

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-t432hfS/0/ff3f2f16/XL/i-t432hfS-XL.jpg

fogrider
01-11-2018, 10:43 PM
I love retomod builds! I found an old Ron Cooper that was rattle canned, after riding it for 6 months with parts from the bin, I had it repainted and set it up with modern parts..mhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180112/2d90ea6a81ed666c7f8f2d0ff66103ec.jpg

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KarlC
01-11-2018, 10:52 PM
In honor of the real men

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4613/39612145242_e159908a6f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23moAHq)d44132a52af24583389cef3d91a9e59b (https://flic.kr/p/23moAHq) by [/url], on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4750/38745769365_32c45b9085_o.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152286819@N02/)colnago-master-dandw-6 (https://flic.kr/p/222Qcmi) by , on Flickr


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4673/39642135581_b2e2fdf19d_o.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152286819@N02/)colnago-master-dandw-3 (https://flic.kr/p/23p3iNe) by , on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4721/24773704697_16b61a61bb_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152286819@N02/)8203836106_1604e3497d_b (https://flic.kr/p/DKaHiB) by , on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4706/25770657678_460801ae84_o.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152286819@N02/)P2244168 (https://flic.kr/p/FggmG7) by , on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4766/39612149512_7406ee7aa2_o.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152286819@N02/)22965028 (https://flic.kr/p/23moBZ3) by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/152286819@N02/], on Flickr

KarlC
01-11-2018, 10:52 PM
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4761/27863942169_352d6dda46_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/JseZf2)s-l1600 (https://flic.kr/p/JseZf2) by , on Flickr

Kontact
01-11-2018, 11:27 PM
Karl,

You're gorgeous, but your bike is too large for you.

Mike V
01-11-2018, 11:37 PM
Here are some interesting bikes. The same place does pantograph on modern parts.

https://www.cycloretro.com/bike-builds

Ernesto
01-12-2018, 09:24 AM
Here’s my fleet of neo-retro Ibis (Ibii?). The blue Hakkalugi is Red 1x10 44-11/42, the orange Spanky is eTap, and the green Hakkalugi is Rival 1x10 (since sold). The Spanky is the best road bike I’ve ever ridden, period. Silky smooth, super responsive, glides effortlessly.

That's an awesome collection! I love American steel from that time period. Your Spanky sounds like my Ritchey Road Logic from 1995/96. Love that orange!