Thoughts on Ibis Hakka MX

[Mikeys]

Thinking about ordering one of these. Any input from owners or mechanics who have worked on them?

Ticks a lot of boxes for me. Only negative I've found is the post mount fork, but that's really not a big deal for me. I might even swap that out in the future for a Rodeo Labs Spork with rack mounts.

https://www.ibiscycles.com/bikes/hakka_mx/
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[SlowPokePete]

I like it.

SPP

[huck*this]

I also have looked at this bike. Very nice and great price for what it offers. I had a couple Ibis Mojo and can tell you this much Scot Nicol is tops for CS. Did a warranty claim over gmail chat with no issues and he even let me size down on the new frame. Really a great company.

[John H.]

I like it- But I can't help but wonder *** on the fork???
Why not make your own fork with fender mounts and flat?
Not like the Enve cross fork is better than anything else or adds value to the bike.
If they can make handlebars and carbon rims with their own brand, they can certainly source a fork.

I would use a Whisky fork-

[many_styles]

Subbed, as I’m interested in this frame too.

[d_douglas]

Yes, the bike looks very nice, but the fork is whack. I would never buy a new bike with different fork mounts (as a person waiting to buy a Campy hydro group)

[eBAUMANN]

whats with everyone aversion to post mount brakes?

post mount calipers will always be around, are compatible with all mtb and road levers, and dont have any downside compared to flat mount calipers besides a few grams...

[jtbadge]

whats with everyone aversion to post mount brakes?

post mount calipers will always be around, are compatible with all mtb and road levers, and dont have any downside compared to flat mount calipers besides a few grams...

It has to just be this forum's Campy fetish.

[radsmd]

whats with everyone aversion to post mount brakes?

post mount calipers will always be around, are compatible with all mtb and road levers, and dont have any downside compared to flat mount calipers besides a few grams...

I think the issue is the difference in the mounting “standard” of the front (post) and back (flat). Would make more sense to have them both post or both flat.

[R3awak3n]

whats with everyone aversion to post mount brakes?

post mount calipers will always be around, are compatible with all mtb and road levers, and dont have any downside compared to flat mount calipers besides a few grams...

they will, on the MTB side. Road is a diff story. Campy is not doing them, new shimano also isn't.

I am with you, they both brake the same, flat does look a little better but I like that with post is so easy to go 180mm or 203mm ect.


but I also think its silly that the front is post and the rear is not.

[ptourkin]

They didn't want to produce their own forks and flat mount is a better standard (and look) for the frame. Force CX1, which is what most people will use on a frame like this right now, is easy to order with one flat and one post. I know, because I did it by accident...

PS, given a choice, I would also build this bike with a Spork.

[Jaybee]

After reading the Rodeo Labs blog on everything they went through to get the Spork through testing and to market, I understand why a company would go with an aftermarket option.

Is there anyone making an aftermarket flat mount that you would consider equivalent to the Enve?

[mistermo]

I have a Hakkalugi canti and LOVE it. So much so, that I've bought a Hakka MX frameset, sitting in the bike cave. I'm still contemplating build options, so haven't hung a single component. Campy H11 2X? SRAM 1X? XTR Di2 1X? I appreciate that they've gone to the T47 BB standard too.

I can't blame Ibis for not wanting to develop their own fork, when ENVE has the expertise, brand recognition, and likely pricepoint they sought. ENVE will have a flat mount fork in no time. Count me among those who don't think it's a big deal to have post up front and flat in the back. However, I'd consider a Whisky flat mount as a possible replacement, if flat mount was critical-or running fenders. The Spork looks interesting, but doubt I'd ever use all it's options.


Is there anyone making an aftermarket flat mount that you would consider equivalent to the Enve?
Whisky

[Jaybee]

Ah- wasn't aware that the Whisky #9 came in flat mount. Thanks for pointing it out.

I agree with you that Enve will likely have a flat mount available soon.

Good luck with your build, this looks like a great bike.

[Mikeys]

Post mount isn't a big deal. I'm just thinking the options for post mounted hydraulic calipers is going to get pretty limited in the future

[eBAUMANN]

Is there anyone making an aftermarket flat mount that you would consider equivalent to the Enve?

No. 22 has a nice flat mount cx fork ive been riding/racing for the past 2 seasons (with a post mount caliper on it, ha!)
Great fork, as good as anything from ENVE, TRP, Whisky, etc in my opinion.
Oh, and its available in 45 and 50 rake.

[GonaSovereign]

Is there anyone making an aftermarket flat mount that you would consider equivalent to the Enve?

The No.22 fork is all kinds of amazing. It's not as readily available (they make them for No. 22 frames), but can be ordered.

(Edit: what eBAUMANN said.)

[d_douglas]

whats with everyone aversion to post mount brakes?

post mount calipers will always be around, are compatible with all mtb and road levers, and dont have any downside compared to flat mount calipers besides a few grams...

It's all about the Campy hydraulic brakes! Also, why have different mounts? I have no issues with post mount (if using Shimano or SRAM, but why have one of each? It seems an oversight that they were too lazy to resolve.

Otherwise, I would love this bike. It challenges me to give a good reason as to why I would buy a Calfee/Crumpton/Parlee/???? when a bike is this nice.

[Sparshall]

I’ve got a Hakka MX Frameset on order...hope to get it by end of month. I went back and forth about the Enve fork, it in the end I know it’s a fine fork and it’s merely a minor inconvenience to have post mount front and flat rear.
Other than that, it seems like a great Frameset at a reasonable price. Looking forward to the build and I’ll post pics then too.

[Lovetoclimb]

Are the Enve and Spork forks interchangeable? I am considering the Hakka frame with Spork fork myself ...

[Wayne77]

Love the looks of the Hakka MX...especially that vivid red version. The Hakka MX and the Norco Search XR were the two at the top of my list. Other than looks, feature for feature, as well as tire clearance, they are nearly identical. Frame only price is the same as well. For stock build options however the Norco is equipped with better options in my opinion. Unless things have changed, with the Ibis you could go with a Rival 1x bike and after that you had to step up to an Ultegra Di2 build with carbon rims for about 2K more. No Force 1x build offerred. Given how popular that group is right now, and given that so many other competing bikes come with that group at competitive prices, it seems crazy that Ibis wasn’t offering a Force 1X build or at least a non Di2 Ultegra build. Maybe that’s changed...

It’s nice that there are finally some more budget friendly alternatives to the Open U.P. and 3T Exploro (for someone looking for a similar frame w/ similar features & clearance)

[hobbanero]

I 've been looking at the Hakka and having the same issue. Mostly worried that Shimano might change something going forward so that the next gen road gruppo can't work with their mtb post mount calipers. And something is just irksome about mismatched calipers. I wonder when Enve will sort that out, and whether it will be a running change to the Hakka or if they will wait until next year's model. Might go with a Rondo Ruut instead.

[Hakkalugi]

I have a Hakkalugi canti and LOVE it.
Whisky

As do I. Mine has a January ‘98 stamp on the steerer tube. Before the MX was released, I had ordered a ti frame from Waltly, with geometry based on my Hakkalugi but with clearance for 700c x 50 and frame couplers. It shipped today (yay). When the MX appeared, I used the frame comparator spreadsheet that’s been floating around and compared the MX to the OG: basically they cloned it and put in a taller head tube. My version is essentially the same but with a 1cm shorter ett. When I plugged the MX and my design into the spreadsheet they were identical except for toptube length. So, in essence, I have a ti MX on the way, totally by coincidence.

If the MX is as sweet on flowy singletrack as the ‘98, it’ll be amazing. I can’t wait for mine to show up. I’m sure it will ride beautifully regardless of the brake mounting type (post).

I’m an Ibis fan, but my experience with them is with my Hakka and my ‘98 Spanky. As said elsewhere, Scot Nichol is great and has excellent customer service.

[CiclistiCliff]

Built this for a coworker and have a Rival kit in the build queue for the shop. Rival kit is definitely a 'budget' option, but nice bike for the price. The detail work on the frame and finish quality is up there with the newest Ripley/Mojo 3/HD4 which is a huge improvement over the previous generation Hakkalugis.

Frame kit, Force 22 that I modified to control the dropper, Ibis carbon wheelset, KS Zeta dropper and XX1 10-42 cassette. He's got about 50 miles and 7000' on the bike in a couple days and he's loving it. 19 lbs even with pedals/cages. Not bad.


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