Tune 170 Hubset

[jm714]

I noticed I could get a set of Tune MiG 170 hubs for about $430 shipped from bike24 in Germany. I’m 210 lbs. Or should I just stick with tried and true DT Swiss 240’s for $400? The pretty blue hubs would look good on my frame. Thx

[thegunner]

i love those hubs, but at 210 i'm not sure i would do it. they have a history (maybe that's an overstatement, but i've seen reports) of cracked flanges :(

[Mark McM]

i love those hubs, but at 210 i'm not sure i would do it. they have a history (maybe that's an overstatement, but i've seen reports) of cracked flanges :(

And they are also known to creak under heavy loads. I'd also leave them to the flyweight riders.

[beeatnik]

Get the DTs

[jm714]

Thanks for talking me off the ledge. It was close.

[cadence90]

I agree that the tune 170 would not be best for you.

If blue hubs are your desire, White Industries are an option.
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[ergott]

Carbon-Ti makes a better weight weenie option.

[dbnm]

https://fairwheelbikes.com/tune-mag-170-rear-road-hub/

[cadence90]

Carbon-Ti makes a better weight weenie option.

Recommended for a 210+ lb rider?
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[ergott]

Recommended for a 210+ lb rider?
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Oh, I missed that.

No.

Get White Industries. Steel axle and titanium freehub. Better than DT.

Another with some pop is Industry Nine. They can be ordered with steel freehub.

[GonaSovereign]

Tune hubs are nice, but they don't play well with big folk.

If you want blue, get these, which are superior at any weight:
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/53cd4a66e4b0216897ed1b86/t/53cd5534e4b0c40270c4a3f7/1405965638339/Road+hubs?format=750w

[FlashUNC]

Strong, light, cheap. Pick two.

[RyanH]

Wheels mfg hubs for that price. DT is a good hub but for $400 that's kind of a waste of money when you can get the Wheels Hubs. Tune 170s are kinda really garbage.

[thegunner]

Tune 170s are kinda really garbage.

boooo :fight:

[oldpotatoe]

I noticed I could get a set of Tune MiG 170 hubs for about $430 shipped from bike24 in Germany. I’m 210 lbs. Or should I just stick with tried and true DT Swiss 240’s for $400? The pretty blue hubs would look good on my frame. Thx

$400 for 240s is a great price..be sure you get enough holes tho and/or a fairly 'stout' rim...just IMHO, of course..:)

[oldpotatoe]

Wheels mfg hubs for that price. DT is a good hub but for $400 that's kind of a waste of money when you can get the Wheels Hubs. Tune 170s are kinda really garbage.

Wheels hubs are $620 per pair..as are WI..$400 for DT240 hubset, yes? Or just rear hub..

[tuscanyswe]

Whats garbage about the later tune 170s ?

I have had 3 trouble free sets. Currently running them with no issues on my everyday roadbike

[jm714]

I’m not a weight weenie, it more about the price of $430 for both front and rear in blue that got me going down the Tune path. The $400 was for both front and rear 240’s. I have run the T11’s, but they were constantly in need of adjustment as they would develop lateral movement. Currently my wheels are 24/28 builds, a pair of DT’s on DT 511 rims and Hed Belgium Pluse’s on Dura Ace Hubs. Both of those wheel sets have been solid workhorses.

[ergott]

I’m not a weight weenie, it more about the price of $430 for both front and rear in blue that got me going down the Tune path. The $400 was for both front and rear 240’s. I have run the T11’s, but they were constantly in need of adjustment as they would develop lateral movement. Currently my wheels are 24/28 builds, a pair of DT’s on DT 511 rims and Hed Belgium Pluse’s on Dura Ace Hubs. Both of those wheel sets have been solid workhorses.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/562687b4e4b08b7d50463f7b/57fe92c2d1758e2144d0ce53/58a4672bb3db2b576e42e04d/1487169324028/BG_Road_Blue_web.jpg

[ergott]

Whats garbage about the later tune 170s ?

I have had 3 trouble free sets. Currently running them with no issues on my everyday roadbike

Nothing. They have addressed the creaking and reliability has been much better.

For more typical 20/24 builds that I do, I like the Carbon-Ti because they are lighter for the pair and a little less expensive. Being straight pull they have limited options.

[Tony]

I’m not a weight weenie, it more about the price of $430 for both front and rear in blue that got me going down the Tune path. The $400 was for both front and rear 240’s. I have run the T11’s, but they were constantly in need of adjustment as they would develop lateral movement. Currently my wheels are 24/28 builds, a pair of DT’s on DT 511 rims and Hed Belgium Pluse’s on Dura Ace Hubs. Both of those wheel sets have been solid workhorses.

Same here, both my WI rear hubs need adjustments after a couple weeks mtbing. I have also had to replace the bearings in the freehub area on both hubs due to the design of the hub and the poor quality bearings, both were fairly new at the time. Water has direct access to the freehub bearing so this will be a problem for those who ride in the drink or wash their bikes carelessly. The three small screws that set the bearing preload also needed to be replaced due to the constant adjustments needed due to lateral play. I personally would NEVER go the WI route again.

[steelbikerider]

For $350 - $400, you can get a set of DA 9000 hubs with skewers that will be much better than White or DT's and a titanium freehub that won't notch. I have seen DT's lose their black finish around the spoke holes after a couple of years and Have seen Whites with a broken flange. I have Dura Ace hubs from 1988 that I still ride.

[oldpotatoe]

For $350 - $400, you can get a set of DA 9000 hubs with skewers that will be much better than White or DT's and a titanium freehub that won't notch. I have seen DT's lose their black finish around the spoke holes after a couple of years and Have seen Whites with a broken flange. I have Dura Ace hubs from 1988 that I still ride.

Gotta link? 9000 hubs for around $350?

[ergott]

Gotta link? 9000 hubs for around $350?

Wiggle.

Typical Shimano pricing. Cheaper than wholesale, sold online.

[R3awak3n]

Whats garbage about the later tune 170s ?

I have had 3 trouble free sets. Currently running them with no issues on my everyday roadbike

I am with you, no problems on my tune stuff an I am over this dudes weight

[jm714]

I just pulled the trigger on the DA hubset; $317 from Wiggle, free shipping.

[Tony]

I am with you, no problems on my tune stuff an I am over this dudes weight

Same here, solid hubs, no issues.

[audiojan]

At 210 lbs, I would stay away from the Tune hubs... a friend had them on her bike and she's 120 lbs and flexed the wheels. Change the hub to DT190's and problem was solved.

[tuscanyswe]

At 210 lbs, I would stay away from the Tune hubs... a friend had them on her bike and she's 120 lbs and flexed the wheels. Change the hub to DT190's and problem was solved.

That seems very build related not hub related imo.

[audiojan]

That seems very build related not hub related imo.

No, can pretty much guarantee it was hub related. Built by the same master wheel builder, with same rim and same spokes (same model rim and same model spokes). The Tune hubs do flex. Although there's always the possibility that the Tune hubs were faulty to start with (although not very likely).

To add to this though, she's light, but she's a sprinter, so she has peak power. The DT Swiss hubs just flexed less.

[tuscanyswe]

No, can pretty much guarantee it was hub related. Built by the same master wheel builder, with same rim and same spokes (same model rim and same model spokes). The Tune hubs do flex. Although there's always the possibility that the Tune hubs were faulty to start with (although not very likely).

To add to this though, she's light, but she's a sprinter, so she has peak power. The DT Swiss hubs just flexed less.

Ive had 3 sets and 2 were 20/24 spoke builds. No detectable flex whatsoever.
Im not heavy but quite bit more than 120.

[audiojan]

Ive had 3 sets and 2 were 20/24 spoke builds. No detectable flex whatsoever.
Im not heavy but quite bit more than 120.

Maybe we had bad hubs... or maybe it's how she rides vs. how you ride. She's pushy as heck (lots of peak power for her weight). If you're much smoother in your riding style, then that could explain the issue. Either way, glad they work for you, they are really nice hubs otherwise!

[ergott]

There's nothing inherently stiffer about the DT 190 design. In fact, the 240 would handle peak loads better that 190 due to bigger bearings in the freehub.

That said, the Tune hub has better flange geometry and a 17mm axle instead of 15mm of DT. I can't see what could have been bad about the hub other than it not being adjusted properly (not enough shims).

I've ridden with that hub and put north of 1250 watts in sprints. It wasn't an issue.

You can sum up the "stiffness" a hub will give you if you look at it's design. Bearing placement and flange geometry are at the top of importance. Axle diameter/material helps too. One hub can't be laterally stiffer in the same build as another without some quantifiable reason.

[NHAero]

Reviving this thread. My rear Mag 170 hub has a bit of lateral play. I can't feel it while riding, even standing, but I can feel it in the stand. How are they adjusted? I can't yet find an online manual or instructions.
thanks

[AngryScientist]

Reviving this thread. My rear Mag 170 hub has a bit of lateral play. I can't feel it while riding, even standing, but I can feel it in the stand. How are they adjusted? I can't yet find an online manual or instructions.
thanks

here you go. unfortunately, these dont use a nice simple system to dial out play like CK or campy does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZYKaLUJhzc

[NHAero]

Thanks!
Sounds as though it is shimmed. I'll get in touch with Fairwheel and see if they sell those.

here you go. unfortunately, these dont use a nice simple system to dial out play like CK or campy does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZYKaLUJhzc

[NHAero]

In case anyone in the future has a question about this hub, here's a link to the Mag 170 manual (http://www.starbike.com/manuals/mag170-manual-june2016.pdf).

[AngryScientist]

In case anyone in the future has a question about this hub, here's a link to the Mag 170 manual (http://www.starbike.com/manuals/mag170-manual-june2016.pdf).

thanks, that's handy!

[Tony]

Thanks!
Sounds as though it is shimmed. I'll get in touch with Fairwheel and see if they sell those.

Its an easy process, solid system using shims to adjust the play. Fairwheel carries the shims, they sent some of various sizes..great folks and awesome customer service!

My only complaint about the tune 170 hub is the freehub body seems really soft and easily damaged/gouged by my DA cassettes compared to other aluminum bodies.