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Veloo
12-09-2017, 03:37 PM
Has anyone found a face warmer that covers the nose but doesn't fog your glasses with each exhaled breath?

I've tried the ones with nose and mouth vents (like the Gore face warmer) but the problem is the fabric around the bridge of the nose doesn't lie flat against the skin so the path of least resistance for the breath is back up into the glasses.

Seems like that area needs something like a thin piece of metal on filter masks that can conform to the shape of the face and seal off the mask just below the eyes.

giverdada
12-09-2017, 10:01 PM
i tried the gore one too. i think it's still in my closet after a few disappointing commutes (i picked it up at velotique hoping for typical gore awesomeness). i had the fog problem too.

i thought there are some that have a different cut or lay or thickness or something of the neoprene so that it does actually lay flat against your face. maybe this is only in conjunction with goggles pushing the neoprene down, but i don't know. are there hunting ones that work? buffs aren't too bad, and i do often use a rapha winter neck/face thing (we call it a thneed, though i have no idea what it's actually called), but it's not at all windproof. i'm interested to hear what you end up with. winter... oh man...

jamesdak
12-09-2017, 10:10 PM
I gave up trying to find one. No matter what I tried they all seemed to leak out and fog my glasses. I now resort to growing a winter beard and then leaving the face uncovered. Works fine for me with temps below 0 so far. The only real solution I found was using ski goggles for those days I needed added protection.

What I haven't tried is somekind of tape solution. Seal the mask with tape across the bridge of your nose.

Sorry I can't be of real help.

Peter P.
12-10-2017, 06:58 AM
I agree that fogging is not cured with a product.

When I wore a facemask commuting, I'd intentional direct my exhalation by slightly puckering my lips and aiming directly away from my face or slightly downward. It was very subtle but it worked.

Hilltopperny
12-10-2017, 07:04 AM
I started using goggles on the more extreme days where my beard didn't keep my face warm. I've never found a face mask that didn't fog up my glasses.

jamesdak
12-10-2017, 10:00 AM
I agree that fogging is not cured with a product.

When I wore a facemask commuting, I'd intentional direct my exhalation by slightly puckering my lips and aiming directly away from my face or slightly downward. It was very subtle but it worked.

Yeah, I tried this but I do 20 plus mile rides and inadvertently would always forget somewhere along the way. One misdirected breath and your blind on the cold days. That "fog" is instant ice on the inside of the glasse, LOL!

Maybe if I was more focused....

JAGI410
12-10-2017, 10:03 AM
Cold Avenger works pretty good, but it looks silly. Great for 0F and below.

Volant
12-10-2017, 10:13 AM
When I lived up north I used those old neoprene skiers' wrap-around face mask that had a full opening under the nostrils but covered the nose and the mouth was vent holes. I cut an opening for the mouth and it worked great for cycling (rode in sub-zero) and glasses never fogged.

Was like this one:
https://m.dickssportinggoods.com/p/seirus-comfort-masque-17srsucmfrtsrsmsqaoa/17srsucmfrtsrsmsqaoa?camp=CSE:DSG_pg42068_ecom_PLA _452&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIh-DXouv_1wIV1xyBCh2W8gVMEAQYAiABEgLUkvD_BwE

OtayBW
12-10-2017, 10:39 AM
Why not try some kind of anti-fog glasses with a neoprene gasket? http://www.bobster.com/Rukus or similar.

marsh
12-10-2017, 11:19 AM
I gave up long ago. I still use the old messenger trick of vaseline on the exposed facial areas.

teleguy57
12-10-2017, 09:55 PM
Absolutely check out the Weathernecker (https://theweatherneck.com/). Designed by Brian Davis, inventor of the Fix-It Sticks and a local Appleton WI rider.

The only facemask I've tried for xc skiing and fat biking that protects my face and lets me breathe without feeling like I'm in a rain forest. Hat has a longer tail with a pocket for a handwarmer (truth: I haven't felt the need to do that yet) and the facemask is uber adjustable and easily removable as it attaches with magnets vs velcro or something hard to adjust.

Nice testimonials and vids (https://youtu.be/mR-dbDC7fTk) on the website.

rousseau
12-10-2017, 10:40 PM
Absolutely check out the Weathernecker (https://theweatherneck.com/). Designed by Brian Davis, inventor of the Fix-It Sticks and a local Appleton WI rider.

The only facemask I've tried for xc skiing and fat biking that protects my face and lets me breathe without feeling like I'm in a rain forest. Hat has a longer tail with a pocket for a handwarmer (truth: I haven't felt the need to do that yet) and the facemask is uber adjustable and easily removable as it attaches with magnets vs velcro or something hard to adjust.

Nice testimonials and vids (https://youtu.be/mR-dbDC7fTk) on the website.
Whoa, thanks for the alert to this. It looks perfect.

moose8
12-11-2017, 04:12 AM
https://coldavenger.com

I’ve got one. It works but it’s really warm and makes you look like darth vader.

Veloo
12-11-2017, 06:52 AM
It'll go well with those new kits at Wiggle.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?s=star+wars

https://coldavenger.com

I’ve got one. It works but it’s really warm and makes you look like darth vader.

wallymann
12-11-2017, 10:47 AM
why not a balaclava with holes for mouth and nose?

you can buy off-the-peg deals with that sort of setup.

cp43
12-11-2017, 11:03 AM
The solution I used was Rudy Project ski goggles that include a nose warmer. It eliminated the need for the balaclava to cover the nose, and let me breath more easily. My nose was still plenty warm.

Chris

Veloo
12-11-2017, 12:02 PM
Should've mentioned that I'm wearing Rx glasses so I'm ruling out the ski goggles.

rain dogs
12-11-2017, 02:36 PM
Here's 100% how you do it - trust a Canadian.

First, use a merino neck tube, because merino holds and exchanges moisture different than synthetics, less vapor goes up onto the glasses. We make em, but they aren't in the store for some reason, so email if you want one, but I'll fix that soon. If that doesn't work:

Second, if it's super gnarly conditions and you're still getting fog with even merino, then use the old hockey visor trick. Put a dab of liquid soap on the glasses and smear it all over with your finger - then polish it off until it doesn't distort your vision using the same type of cloth you clean your glasses with.

The soap repels moisture and doesn't let it accumulate on the lenses. If it's still fogging you cleaned the soap off too well.

1st merino. 2nd liquid soap. If those steps don't work... you're SOL. But it's 'guaranteed' effective, it's worked for me in like -10C

charliedid
12-11-2017, 02:58 PM
Here's 100% how you do it - trust a Canadian.

First, use a merino neck tube, because merino holds and exchanges moisture different than synthetics, less vapor goes up onto the glasses. We make em, but they aren't in the store for some reason, so email if you want one, but I'll fix that soon. If that doesn't work:

Second, if it's super gnarly conditions and you're still getting fog with even merino, then use the old hockey visor trick. Put a dab of liquid soap on the glasses and smear it all over with your finger - then polish it off until it doesn't distort your vision using the same type of cloth you clean your glasses with.

The soap repels moisture and doesn't let it accumulate on the lenses. If it's still fogging you cleaned the soap off too well.

1st merino. 2nd liquid soap. If those steps don't work... you're SOL. But it's 'guaranteed' effective, it's worked for me in like -10C

I like this ^

Veloo
12-11-2017, 03:44 PM
Thought about the soap film thing as an MTB friend told me about it years ago when he did a 24 hour event.
I have a merino neck gaitor now.

Guess I could use the antifog stuff I line the (prescription) swim goggles with too.

tigoat
12-11-2017, 04:35 PM
I have used a Gore Universal balaclavas a few times recently in the 30 degree weather with a pair of safety glasses without fogging issues. I cut a big hole around the mouth area off those smaller patterned holes which helped my breathing tremendously. This is just one of my cold weather riding solutions. I have also wore a time trial helmet with a face shield without glasses, which I actually like it better. Ideally, I would like to have a winter helmet (min vents or no vents at all) with a fully integrated face shield but I don't think such thing exist yet, at least not for cycling. I do have a motorcycle helmet but it is too heavy for cycling.