What bike would you buy for $6000

[dbnm]

If you had a $6000 budget for a new bike, what would you get?

[tuscanyswe]

I know this is not at all what you are asking.

But you get a super nice used bike, like the top top top of the line and a weekend trip to some really really nice places to ride maybe even italy for that kind of cash.

That said id do a custom steel gravel bike bike with campy hydro for that monnies.

[Clean39T]

Judging from past behavior, I’d get 2-3 used custom Ti bikes that don’t fit me very well.. Zing!

[trener1]

Most likely a BMC SLR01 with Ultegra.
I'd also have a good look at a Cannondale Supersix EVO HiMod.

[ultraman6970]

For that money you can get at least two NOS record C top of the line bikes, if not 3.

[BobO]

Most likely a BMC SLR01 with Ultegra

Same here. I had the opportunity to ride one and it's hard to describe the positive feedback and comfort from the machine. It's exceptional.

[zmudshark]

Bixxis

[Imaking20]

I'd build whatever I wanted for that. To date, the C60 is the best bike I've ridden to date. I had high hopes for the SLR01 but never ended up building it.

To be honest, I'd spend ~$3500 building a bike before $6000 buying any complete bike I've seen. Especially if you're talking carbon. And probably enjoy it more.

[bicycletricycle]

I would order another chapman.

[Mzilliox]

something custom Ti and coupled, with campy disc

[fa63]

A Moots Vamoots with Ultegra Di2 and HED+ wheels.

[54ny77]

i'd buy something really nice used here on the forum for $3-4k or so and spend the rest for 3-4 days vacation riding it somewhere nice. :cool:

[simonov]

Wet paint aluminum Zanconato with Ultegra/Force/Chorus and use the spare cash to upgrade the wheels.

[SoCalSteve]

A pretty colored bike with ETap and ENVE 4.5 wheels. Must be a pretty color. Or maybe a matte carbon weave. Or natural finished Ti. Or a pretty colored bike. :confused:

[weisan]

Cyfac Absolu

[tuscanyswe]

something custom Ti and coupled, with campy disc

for 6k? Lets party like its 1999 ;)

[Clean39T]

for 6k? Lets party like its 1999 ;)


You mean w 23c tires? Savage...

[Quilts]

I'd go in the opposite direction and likely try and hunt down an old Herse or Singer. Something about those constructeur bicycles has always spoken to me.

[ldamelio]

Cyfac Absolu

Looks like half the budget was spent on spacers.

[trener1]

Same here. I had the opportunity to ride one and it's hard to describe the positive feedback and comfort from the machine. It's exceptional.

Yeah I gotta say, I demoed one and I was just blown away by how it felt.
I have been wanting one ever since....

[cribbit]

Judging from past behavior, I’d get 2-3 used custom Ti bikes that don’t fit me very well.. Zing!

Yes this exactly.

[jh_on_the_cape]

Used BMW G65GS
6k is too much for a bicycle.
Or like so many others have said, a nice 3k bike and a sweet trip to vegas for riding and hookers and blow.

https://southcoast.craigslist.org/mcy/d/2014-bmw-g650gs/6344505729.html

[R3awak3n]

I probably would buy 2 3k bikes instead (used of course).

but if I must really spend 6k on one, I would have Rob English build me a gravel bike. Then campy EPS, Hydro.

[weisan]

Looks like half the budget was spent on spacers.

Nah...just a stem with lots of rise. :D

[djg21]

If you had a $6000 budget for a new bike, what would you get?

I’m thinking about an Allied Alpha. https://alliedcycleworks.com/allied-alfa/

It’s available in the $6k range, but I really want eTap, which bumps the cost up.

[MattTuck]

I suppose I'd break down and get something carbon.

[Luwabra]

id take and give money to local frame builder -jeffrey bock's frame building class. build my own, then baller wheels then pay for kid daycare to ride the F out it. fillet brazed midreach all road bike. thats just me tho I have a soft spot for fat tire road bikes. and a yearning to see how its done by one of the greats. Education included not just forking over cash.

[Clean39T]

Yes this exactly.

My comment was self-deprecating..

I'm actually more interested in N=1 as far as my true road bike goes. And if that means one $6K road bike, so be it.

For me, that's modern high-end titanium, don't really care about discs or overly fat tires since it'd be for riding when the weather and roads are appropriate for riding fast on the road.

For a gravel, crappy roads, and/or wet-weather bike, I have a hard time justifying anything other than well-built steel rig with discs (might be a MUSA BMC monstercross a guy has locally in my size). And I don't think you need $6K to get close to perfection there.

[72gmc]

Ti 44 plus bike
Or ti Jones plus spaceframe
Or ti strada bianca if my Davidson suddenly stops fitting so well
Or ti 22 drifter ...

[sales guy]

You mean w 23c tires? Savage...

I still run 23's. Had them on my Exemplar at NAHBS. I was told that was the reason i didn't win with that bike for a particular award. Cause the trend is 28's. I don't run 25's or 28's tho.

[onsight512]

a Kirk.

[joosttx]

A MTB made by either soulcraft or 44.

[cgolvin]

Judging from past behavior, I’d get 2-3 used custom Ti bikes that don’t fit me very well.. Zing!

"2-3" made me laugh. I think more realistic is that $6K is your lifetime budget for the Sisyphean task of finding the perfect fit, endlessly buying and selling in that quest…

[cachagua]

I'm teetering on the brink of a mountain bike, but there's no way I'd spend 6K on it even if it were game-show winnings or like that. But I find myself in the weird place, right now, of having just about everything I want in the bike world... which is contributed to by my having very little time to ride.

But, I have to inquire of the OP: why do you ask? Have we had a little windfall, h'mmm? And we're fishing for ideas how to spend it?

[KarlC]

I'd build whatever I wanted for that. To date, the C60 is the best bike I've ridden to date. I had high hopes for the SLR01 but never ended up building it.

To be honest, I'd spend ~$3500 building a bike before $6000 buying any complete bike I've seen. Especially if you're talking carbon. And probably enjoy it more.

C60 still for sale or are you keeping it ?

Another Ti frame maybe ?

I was thinking for your BMC SLR01 but was unsure, I hear they are great and was hoping to get your ride report.

I'm with you on building up a bike instead of buying new unless you came across a steal.

[OtayBW]

Be patient - you'll know it when you see it...;)

[choke]

I'd contact Ulrich Vogel and get the ball rolling on a 650b frame. Or I'd call Steve Hampsten and get a Ti Strada Bianca.

Or I'd start searching for a Galmozzi or Hetchins.

Used BMW G65GS
6k is too much for a bicycle.There's a part of me that certainly agrees with that second statement. But my choice would be a used Ducati 999. :)

[galgal]

Why $6K...why stop there ?:rolleyes:

[Bob Ross]

ti Jones plus spaceframe

Came in to post ^^^this!
(I had to check his website to confirm you could do it all-in for $6k. I guess it's feasible: $4500 for the Ti Spaceframe with Ti Trussfork. But I have no idea what MTB components cost these days.)

[Bob Ross]

Either that, or two-thirds of a Crumpton

[dancinkozmo]

http://images.mcn.bauercdn.com/upload/257648/images/540x360/1cb1100.jpg

[galgal]

https://www.houzz.com/product/45857587-robert-longo-set-of-3-skateboard-decks-silkscreen-on-skateboard-contemporary-mixed-media-art

[Clean39T]

Yes this exactly.

"2-3" made me laugh. I think more realistic is that $6K is your lifetime budget for the Sisyphean task of finding the perfect fit, endlessly buying and selling in that quest…

Pretty much :cool:

But I think it's sneaking a little higher as I justify the need for a bling roadie, a cross/gravel/commuter, and a 29er - might be out to $10K once all those itches are scratched, and then we'll play around with relative investments among the three accounts - some sort of auto-balancing maybe?

[MesiJezi]

Pivot Vault

Agressive geo with clearance for 48mm 700c tires.


http://www.pivotcycles.com/bike/vault/ (http://www.pivotcycles.com/bike/vault/)

http://www.pivotcycles.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/2017_Vault_PRO_ULTEGRA_BLUE.png

[pdonk]

If they built my size and it was in a colour I liked one of the speedvagen ready mades.

[beeatnik]

A C60 from Italy (2 or 3 guys out there have dealz) with Chorus 11 and Shamals Milles. There would be enough left over to splurge on carbon bars.

End of the year deal on an S-Works Tarmac (etapz) or Hi Mod Evo (9150). If MSRP is $11,000, you'll find them marked down to $7000. If you ask, the price will drop another $500 and the shop will eat the sales tax.

Open UP with Force and ENVEs. (one online dealer can build this out-da-door for $6000)

A Speedvagen Recidivist

[Clean39T]

A C60 from Italy (2 or 3 guys out there have dealz) with Chorus 11 and Shamals Milles. There would be enough left over to splurge on carbon bars.

End of the year deal on an S-Works Tarmac (etapz) or Hi Mod Evo (9150). If MSRP is $11,000, you'll find them marked down to $7000. If you ask, the price will drop another $500 and the shop will eat the sales tax.

Open UP with Force and ENVEs. (one online dealer can build this out-da-door for $6000)

A poor man Speedvagen

^^^^ true story: https://www.trekbicyclesuperstore.com/product/cannondale-supersix-evo-hi-mod-red-etap-277974-1.htm

[Imaking20]

C60 still for sale or are you keeping it ?

Another Ti frame maybe ?

I was thinking for your BMC SLR01 but was unsure, I hear they are great and was hoping to get your ride report.

I'm with you on building up a bike instead of buying new unless you came across a steal.

C60 and BMC both sold. Waiting for a new ti frame to arrive at my desk. The only thing I question is if the handling can be good enough to make me not miss the C60. Otherwise, I don't see myself looking back to carbon in the near future (mostly due to environmental preferences).

My fit is easy to find on other builds - but I'm pretty particular about spec. When I look at complete bikes, I am always looking at the parts I'd have to swap and end up just doing piece meal.

[beeatnik]

Ah, D, that reminds me. My $6000 unicorn would be a Madone 9.9

https://www.trekbicyclesuperstore.com/product/trek-madone-9.9-310247-1.htm

[cgolvin]

Pretty much :cool:

But I think it's sneaking a little higher as I justify the need for a bling roadie, a cross/gravel/commuter, and a 29er - might be out to $10K once all those itches are scratched, and then we'll play around with relative investments among the three accounts - some sort of auto-balancing maybe?

Personally I endorse this n=3 policy. Problem is that to liberate space for #2 I'd have to part with my Gios and that ain't gonna happen.

[Clean39T]

Personally I endorse this n=3 policy. Problem is that to liberate space for #2 I'd have to part with my Gios and that ain't gonna happen.

Easy, just consider your Gios to be "rolling art", get a nice wall-mount for it, and take it out once a month to re-up its patina..

https://img1.etsystatic.com/181/0/15186719/il_570xN.1348170161_s6ts.jpg

There are many ways to achieve N=1 without deprivation :banana:

[weisan]

I posted my Cyfac just for laughs really. It's very unlikely that I would spend $6000 all on one bike. That's not my usual style. I like to get as much bike for my buck as I possibly can. Just as an illustration, below is a quick and dirty and very rough estimate of my bike spend$ to date. The reason I can accomplish this is through luck, patience, knowing exactly what I want, creative sourcing, driving old used cars, cash at hand and ready to buy anytime, and most importantly with the help and generosity of this community (PSA galore!) and my local co-op. I am only sharing this information to make a point that I have always believed in and trying to make whenever I can - you don't have to always go through the traditional routes, there are many other alternatives out there if you care to look or are willing to explore. Be adventurous, willing to take a bit of risk, learn how to build a wheel or do your own wrenching, and lastly, be creative.

Giant Defy (frameset) free*
Cyfac Absolu (frameset) $260
Nashbar touring (framset) + shipping $120
Eddy Merckx MX Leader (frameset) $350
Serotta CX II (frameset) $450
Surly long-haul trucker S&S coupled (frameset) $550
Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra (Complete) $750
Bianchi Mini Velo Lepre (complete) + shipping $750
Merlin Titanium Cross (Complete) + Shipping $850
Rivendell Standard Road (complete) + packing/shipping $900
Taylor ritchey breakaway custom (frameset) + Shipping $1,400
Co-motion Periscope torpedo tandem (complete) $1,600
Bicycle parts (8 complete groupsets), wheelsets $2,000
Richard Sachs S&S coupled (complete) + packing/shipping $2,400

Total $12,380

[Clean39T]

When I look at complete bikes, I am always looking at the parts I'd have to swap and end up just doing piece meal.

So true...plus the pain and suffering of trying to sell OEM parts/wheels.

[Hilltopperny]

I am having a no.22 drifter built for a little north of your current budget. It's the first time I've ever spent that kind of $ on a new bicycle, but I plan on using it a lot.

[FlashUNC]

Depends. If I'm using parts I've got in the shed, then can get pretty wacky with a Time Izon or Scylon.

But if the $6k is a full bike? Probably a Giant TCR Advanced in the price range to scratch any carbon itch.

[John H.]

The Parlee Altum that I am selling for 4k and have $ left over for a set of carbon wheels.

If you had a $6000 budget for a new bike, what would you get?

[CMiller]

A bike that fits!

[thunderworks]

id take and give money to local frame builder -jeffrey bock's frame building class. build my own, then baller wheels then pay for kid daycare to ride the F out it. fillet brazed midreach all road bike. thats just me tho I have a soft spot for fat tire road bikes. and a yearning to see how its done by one of the greats. Education included not just forking over cash.

Or alternately, buy an exquisite Jeffrey Bock and equip it however necessary to make the budget . . . his work is unbelievably beautiful!

[Aaron O]

I have my perfect road bike...

I'd probably talk to TK about the perfect spectrum all rounder'. Or I'd go after a 60s De Rosa.

[dbnm]

I'm surprised no one mention the Speedvagen OG-1
https://www.speedvagen.com/ready-made-operation-hawt-og1/

[KarlC]

C60 and BMC both sold. Waiting for a new ti frame to arrive at my desk. The only thing I question is if the handling can be good enough to make me not miss the C60. Otherwise, I don't see myself looking back to carbon in the near future (mostly due to environmental preferences).

My fit is easy to find on other builds - but I'm pretty particular about spec. When I look at complete bikes, I am always looking at the parts I'd have to swap and end up just doing piece meal.

Yea Im debating on maybe getting a C59 or a Ti or a ???

Hoping to learn more from your experience.

[AJosiahK]

a no nonense trail bike for sure

i have a 130 f/r travel rig, its amazing but its on the heavy side and XC geo

[Peter P.]

I'm surprised no one mention the Speedvagen OG-1
https://www.speedvagen.com/ready-made-operation-hawt-og1/

You just beat me to it.

[beeatnik]

I'm surprised no one mention the Speedvagen OG-1
https://www.speedvagen.com/ready-made-operation-hawt-og1/

If they built my size and it was in a colour I liked one of the speedvagen ready mades.

A C60 from Italy (2 or 3 guys out there have dealz) with Chorus 11 and Shamals Milles. There would be enough left over to splurge on carbon bars.

End of the year deal on an S-Works Tarmac (etapz) or Hi Mod Evo (9150). If MSRP is $11,000, you'll find them marked down to $7000. If you ask, the price will drop another $500 and the shop will eat the sales tax.

Open UP with Force and ENVEs. (one online dealer can build this out-da-door for $6000)

A Speedvagen Recidivist



The Speedvagen Ice-T is definitely an interesting option.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scILa5iPBcg

[dbnm]

You got me.

[Kirk007]

333Fab Air Land Sea. Oops, it's already on order.

All the other goodies would blow through 6k for a new frame plus parts on any build I would consider, and I'm done buying used bikes that are close but not quite.

[Peter B]

Llewellen was my choice.

F/F/HS + Campy 10 build.

And would be again.

[Bradford]

I would go with a ti Hampsten Strada Bianca or ti IF Club racer, or have Eriksen build something in a similar geo, which gets you to about $4k.

I'd then drop about $400 on new wheels from Old Potatoe (using Ultegra 6800 hubs from Crosslake Sales on ebay), and since I'm cheap, fill in the rest with 10 speed ultegra and other assorted bits from ebay. All in, probably a hair over $5K. However, if you want new and buy a group on sale from the UK sites, you would still be under $6k.

[Louis]

I have enough bicycles.

2017 Suzuki SV650 ABS $5994

https://cdn1.cycletrader.com/v1/media/5a03f66db314e937d5216daa.jpg?width=1024&height=768&quality=70

[beeatnik]

Llewellen was my choice.

F/F/HS + Campy 10 build.

And would be again.

I think you misread the title of the thread. OP is asking for options at $6,000 not $60,000.

:cool:

[Clean39T]

333Fab Air Land Sea. Oops, it's already on order.



All the other goodies would blow through 6k for a new frame plus parts on any build I would consider, and I'm done buying used bikes that are close but not quite.



http://theradavist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/morgan-taylor-333fab-airlandsea-1-1335x890.jpg



Looking forward to seeing what you do with yours. The details in the Radavist wrote-up look pretty cool..

[huck*this]

This! Although I think I would have to dig around for a few more $$$$ Also it would have to be Campy. Photo and bike courtesy of NoMoreParagon

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171117/0bfbde9beac71568fee7558f0679961b.jpg

[laupsi]

Just bought a Wilier Cento 10 NDR, frame/fork, swapped out EPS from team issue bike, spent 1/3 of that 6K, it rides lovely. Oh and I was”told”, I have the first of its kind in the US :)

[Dave B]

I would try to find my old IF grassroots Ti cross bike and if I had enough left over start bugging Indyrider to sell me my old 29er.


If that didn’t work, I want Wout Van Aert’s old colnago cross bike with eTap and disc Zipp 202’s or 303’s.

[oldpotatoe]

If you had a $6000 budget for a new bike, what would you get?

Go to Italia and visit a small builder, talk to them, buy a frame...then spend some time there and fly back..

OR...'buy' a tour with Andy Hampsten. Maybe buy a local bike, do tour, fly back.

OR buy a older bike, do L'Eroica, fly back..:)

[bob heinatz]

Nice budget. Since I own steel and Ti bikes a nice Carbon bike used would be nice to try.

[froze]

A person could go crazy with a question like that, personally I would never ride a $6,000 bike, it's impractical and a waste of money, there are a lot of bikes out there for half that cost that will do 98% of what a $6,000 bike will do.

So I'll play along with the $6,000 thing, I really like my Lynskey, so I would probably opt for a higher grade R470, it's a tad over $6,000 but since it's on sale for $3,937 I would upgrade to Ultegra, Enve 2.0 fork, Cane Creek 110 headset, Mavic Ksyrium Elite wheels, and etched Lynskey graphics, which puts me just under the $6000 limit.

In reality I wouldn't never buy that Lynskey, I would save a ton of money and get their Backroad touring bike, a go anywhere do anything bike.

[gomango]

I'd take that money and bug Mitch Pryor at MAP to build a Rambonneur frameset for me. Not sure that $6,000 would cover the whole shebang, but it'd be a whale of a start.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8894/17729617819_af4778b76f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/t1GVFR)Rambonneur after a good shake down ride. (https://flic.kr/p/t1GVFR) by Mitch Pryor (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mapcycles/), on Flickr

If that didn't work, Eric Estlund at Winter would be my next choice. I love this bike on his Flickr. Looks like a bike that I would like to own if I had the bucks.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1543/26143345011_7c2ed40144_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FQctDM)Brise Rosé (https://flic.kr/p/FQctDM) by Eric Estlund (https://www.flickr.com/photos/22538785@N05/), on Flickr

[joosttx]

?....

If that didn't work, Eric Estlund at Winter would be my next choice. I love this bike on his Flickr. Looks like a bike that I would like to own if I had the bucks.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1543/26143345011_7c2ed40144_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FQctDM)Brise Rosé (https://flic.kr/p/FQctDM) by Eric Estlund (https://www.flickr.com/photos/22538785@N05/), on Flickr

That winter is way north of $6K. And man she is an incredible bike.

[fa63]

I changed my mind, I am going to say a David Kirk Onesto with Ultegra R8000. I showed my wife the frame and even she said approved (and she couldn't care less about bikes).

[gomango]

That winter is way north of $6K. And man she is an incredible bike.

Yes, quite true.

On both points.

[alancw3]

for me a no brainer. an erickson titanium frame to build up. i think i cold do it for $6000 very nicely

[DRZRM]

Yeah, I'd do Kirk Onesta, Chorus 11 group, as much wheel as I have money left over.

[Drmojo]

I posted my Cyfac just for laughs really. It's very unlikely that I would spend $6000 all on one bike. That's not my usual style. I like to get as much bike for my buck as I possibly can. Just as an illustration, below is a quick and dirty and very rough estimate of my bike spend$ to date. The reason I can accomplish this is through luck, patience, knowing exactly what I want, creative sourcing, driving old used cars, cash at hand and ready to buy anytime, and most importantly with the help and generosity of this community (PSA galore!) and my local co-op. I am only sharing this information to make a point that I have always believed in and trying to make whenever I can - you don't have to always go through the traditional routes, there are many other alternatives out there if you care to look or are willing to explore. Be adventurous, willing to take a bit of risk, learn how to build a wheel or do your own wrenching, and lastly, be creative.

Giant Defy (frameset) free*
Cyfac Absolu (frameset) $260
Nashbar touring (framset) + shipping $120
Eddy Merckx MX Leader (frameset) $350
Serotta CX II (frameset) $450
Surly long-haul trucker S&S coupled (frameset) $550
Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra (Complete) $750
Bianchi Mini Velo Lepre (complete) + shipping $750
Merlin Titanium Cross (Complete) + Shipping $850
Rivendell Standard Road (complete) + packing/shipping $900
Taylor ritchey breakaway custom (frameset) + Shipping $1,400
Co-motion Periscope torpedo tandem (complete) $1,600
Bicycle parts (8 complete groupsets), wheelsets $2,000
Richard Sachs S&S coupled (complete) + packing/shipping $2,400

Total $12,380

my kinda pal

[weisan]

my kinda pal

Mojo pal, we can certainly be best of pals. I hesitate to accept the honor of being the smartest...luckiest might be more appropriate. I do recognize that my preference may not be everyone's cup of tea.

[binxnyrwarrsoul]

WTB or patiently wait and stalk the classifieds for the frameset by a decent builder or company, here. Piece together (with WTBs or patiently wait and stalk the classifieds) a Campy group, here. Ditto cockpit/finishing kit/wheels. I've done it over a dozen times, putting gorgeous bikes together worth much more than $6K often for much less than half that, through the fine, generous people on this forum.

[Clydesdale]

Late to the party but if I could fit a 56 and had 6k of bike money I would lowball Ryun by 500 bucks and snag his Crumpton. :banana:

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=213696

[dbnm]

I guess you can now add the new Serotta to the list.

and this Speedvagen
https://www.speedvagen.com/ready-made-operation-hawt-og1/

[one60]

I've been really interested in the Aircode. The entire range consists of a single, top flight aero carbon frame ridden by FDJ team including Pinot. The equipment spec for the price is quite amazing. The SL800 has DA 9100 with direct mount rim brakes and Mavic Cosmic Pro SL carbon wheels (and tires), a Zipp SC stem and more. Its also available as a frame/fork only.

Unfortunately, there is no North American dealer, so its an online purchase with no test ride possible. The reviews the past years have been quite positive (FWIW). Damn, its a sweet looking bike!
http://road.cc/content/news/234934-just-lapierre-aircode-sl-900-ultimate
http://lapierre-api-v4.i-com.fr/sites/default/files/bike/2018/AIRCODE_SL_800_ULTIMATE_Lapierre_2018.jpg

[cash05458]

this must be serious troll thing...congrats for how long it has gone on for...:banana:

[wc1934]

[QUOTE=oldpotatoe;2264968]Go to Italia and visit a small builder, talk to them, buy a frame...then spend some time there and fly back..

This ^. and of course you will build it with campagnolo.

[dbnm]

Nothing troll like at all.

It was a serious question. I am planning on buying a new bike for my 50th birthday and I have a $6000 budget.

That's all.

this must be serious troll thing...congrats for how long it has gone on for...:banana:

[buddybikes]

If you provide some more guidance of the type of bike you want, what history you have etc it would help this community.

[joosttx]

A MTB made by either soulcraft or 44.

Correction... at mountain bike made by 44 Bikes

[audiojan]

I built a Pinarello F8 with Campy Record EPS for about $6k. Doable if you are willing to put in the time and effort to bargain shop.

[dbnm]

Some background:
I am about to turn 49. I live in Albuquerque (5000 feet elevation).

In 2017 I rode my bike 5500 miles and climbed 190,000 feet.

I do not race and have no plans to.

I currently ride a 2015 Moots Vamoots RSL, full Dura Ace (16.5 pounds)


I am looking for something a bit lighter and a little more "flashy".

My goals for 2018 are to bike 6500 miles and climb 250,000 feet.

For my 50th birthday, in a year, I am doing a two week bike trip to England and Japan.

How's that?

[cadence90]

I guess I get the "grass is greener" thing, but in the category of very fine bicycles a "2015 Moots Vamoots RSL, full Dura Ace (16.5 pounds)" is pretty far up there imo.

I sure wouldn't be taking a $6K bicycle to England and Japan, either.
.
.

[Ttx1]

I'd get a Stelbel SB/03 disc with the best Campy build possible within budget. It would be a nice counterpoint to your Moots, probably come in at similar weight but with a different overall feel.

I'd keep the Stelbel at home (beautiful paint), and travel with the Moots, possibly refinished/de-branded.

[joosttx]

Some background:
I am about to turn 49. I live in Albuquerque (5000 feet elevation).

In 2017 I rode my bike 5500 miles and climbed 190,000 feet.

I do not race and have no plans to.

I currently ride a 2015 Moots Vamoots RSL, full Dura Ace (16.5 pounds)


I am looking for something a bit lighter and a little more "flashy".

My goals for 2018 are to bike 6500 miles and climb 250,000 feet.

For my 50th birthday, in a year, I am doing a two week bike trip to England and Japan.

How's that?

I am not sure there is a bike nicer than a vamoots for $6000. I don't think you can buy a vamoots rsl with duraace for 6K. My guess that price is more like $10K. I would set my budget around there to get what you want. Or..... I dont know what your wheels are but if they are a bit basic why dont you buy a set a killer carbon wheels. That would make your vamoots a lot flashier, lighter, faster and under your budget.

[dbnm]

Thanks Joosttx. All good ideas/points

[RyanH]

Unfortunately, $6K bikes and flashy are two words that don't normally go in the same sentence. $6K will get you a flashy frame...but that's about it. That's not to say that $6k won't get you a good bike. On the contrary, you could get an awesome SuperSix Evo with a good groupset and wheels for the price and it will be fantastic. But, the only way you're getting flashy for $6K is to go used on everything. I think my Crumpton build was around $6K with $2k for the used frameset, $1200 for new Bora 35s, $1200 for 9150 shift group (thanks Merlin), $500 for SISL2 probably another $1k for cockpit, brakes, seatpost and saddle. That was a pretty flashy bike but I had to find some great deals to get the cost down there.

BTW, there's no reason your Vamoots can't be light. My Litespeed T3 frame is around the same weight as your frame and my bike is currently sitting at like 13.2 lbs with 9100 shift group and brakes (...and Lightweights and a handful of boutique parts).

Edit, I forgot pics as evidence of flashiness:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180109/68bb6f021188a90dba348ba3793242d5.jpg

[poff]

You can get a Responsorium for 5.7K (Ciavette) this year and then buy parts next year!

[dbnm]

That Crumpton is beautiful

[rnhood]

Some background:
I am about to turn 49. I live in Albuquerque (5000 feet elevation).

In 2017 I rode my bike 5500 miles and climbed 190,000 feet.

I do not race and have no plans to.

I currently ride a 2015 Moots Vamoots RSL, full Dura Ace (16.5 pounds)


I am looking for something a bit lighter and a little more "flashy".

My goals for 2018 are to bike 6500 miles and climb 250,000 feet.

For my 50th birthday, in a year, I am doing a two week bike trip to England and Japan.

How's that?

I'd get a new upper end Specialized Tarmac, Giant TCR or Trek Emonda. These bikes will shine in your cycling venue. Performance before fashion. You already have a top tier metal bike and getting another will be a step down.

[Bob Ross]

Llewellen was my choice.

F/F/HS + Campy 10 build.

And would be again.


Can you really get a Llewellen w/ Campy and wheels all in for $6k?
Is that US$6k or AUS$6k?

[Kirk007]

Get a Colnago C60 from Maestro UK, ($4300) shop the forum for used components ($1000 probably gets top tier gruppo). Same for some solid used carbon wheels or buy some Campy Shamals from a Euro shop and your in the 6K neighborhood, flashy and probably lighter.

[Ken Robb]

A Suzuki!

[weaponsgrade]

An Appleman frameset is exactly $6k. https://www.applemanbicycles.com/bikes/gravel/

Transfer the parts from the RSL.

[Clean39T]

An Appleman frameset is exactly $6k. https://www.applemanbicycles.com/bikes/gravel/

Transfer the parts from the RSL.

Wow. Never seen those before - pretty snazzy :D

[many_styles]

Send the Moots back, refinish, shave off cable guides and go eTap! Then with the extra cash, put it toward an ingamba trip!

[sailorboy]

A custom Zullo Inquobo with chorus 11sp. Not sure if it would bust the budget, maybe just by a little if it did.

[alancw3]

moots or eriksen.

[Jeff N.]

My Richard Sachs! Plus get $1000 dealer rebate!

[NYCfixie]

Seven Evergreen All-Road (with an extra wheelset).

https://www.sevencycles.com/images/bikes/evergreen-sl-pop.jpg

[72gmc]

I'm going to amend my choice to a Kona Big Honzo and some new riding gear (let's say $2500) strapped to $3500 worth of a rental RV. Destination: great trails on the West Coast.

[KarlC]

Unfortunately, $6K bikes and flashy are two words that don't normally go in the same sentence. $6K will get you a flashy frame...but that's about it. That's not to say that $6k won't get you a good bike. On the contrary, you could get an awesome SuperSix Evo with a good groupset and wheels for the price and it will be fantastic. But, the only way you're getting flashy for $6K is to go used on everything. I think my Crumpton build was around $6K with $2k for the used frameset, $1200 for new Bora 35s, $1200 for 9150 shift group (thanks Merlin), $500 for SISL2 probably another $1k for cockpit, brakes, seatpost and saddle. That was a pretty flashy bike but I had to find some great deals to get the cost down there.

BTW, there's no reason your Vamoots can't be light. My Litespeed T3 frame is around the same weight as your frame and my bike is currently sitting at like 13.2 lbs with 9100 shift group and brakes (...and Lightweights and a handful of boutique parts).

Edit, I forgot pics as evidence of flashiness:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180109/68bb6f021188a90dba348ba3793242d5.jpg

Ryan, your bikes are always spot on, but this Crumpton was my favorite. To bad it did not work out for you.

I'm a value guy and I see no value in buying new, especially if you plan to USE the thing.

There are SO many top shelf bikes, frames and parts that barely get used, then get sold for 50-80% less than new.

Find stuff that gets you excited, buy it and enjoy it. When its no longer fun sell it, recoup your money and do it again.

[supercharger]

Haven'd read the whole thread but I did see you want a lighter bike. How about S-Works Tarmac Ultralight Frameset for $4750 and swap over your components? Otherwise I'd suggest the Tarmac Pro. I get it if you want something 'boutique'; I'd rather find a good shop and with good after-sales service. Also I'd want a bike I would ride without worry instead of a garage queen. Good luck with your search.

[mhinson]

A new Wilier Cento in Blue.

[gemship]

I wanna electric assist full suspension bike baby! Either something from Specialized as I really dig the Kenevo model or a Giant Full E or something made by Trek. These bikes look like a lotta fun! To heck with the haters!!!! Please chime in and quote me with your thoughts, love, hate or shine.

[beeatnik]

I wanna electric assist full suspension bike baby! Either something from Specialized as I really dig the Kenevo model or a Giant Full E or something made by Trek. These bikes look like a lotta fun! To heck with the haters!!!! Please chime in and quote me with your thoughts, love, hate or shine.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BdvQTqeB6LZ/?taken-by=drunkcyclist

[FlashUNC]

I wanna electric assist full suspension bike baby! Either something from Specialized as I really dig the Kenevo model or a Giant Full E or something made by Trek. These bikes look like a lotta fun! To heck with the haters!!!! Please chime in and quote me with your thoughts, love, hate or shine.

Just buy a moped.

[choke]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BdvQTqeB6LZ/?taken-by=drunkcyclistHe seems to be a bit obsessed with e-bikes.

[gemship]

Just buy a moped.

Mopeds and Ebikes are like water to vinegar. I'm talking about those over the top 160ishmm suspension travel with the hydro brakes, 11speed cassette on the wheel full suspension bikes. They're basically a motocross dirtbike without the motor with one caveat. They have an electric motor instead and it's really not designed to take over you the individual rather it helps you, matches your output. So tough climbs become doable with gusto. They top out at 20mph and if you the rider can get em to go faster than it's all you after that point. These bikes are pretty much the pinnacle of bicycling tech these days and they look fun.

[beeatnik]

These bikes are pretty much the pinnacle of bicycling tech these days...

No.

[gemship]

No.

Yeah ok then why not? Prove it please...because they got like every new trendy thing out there in bicycle land that costs stupid money.

[AJosiahK]

27.5 full sus trail bike with all the stops

[jimcav]

27.5 full sus trail bike with all the stops

I'd go 29/27.5+ like the spot mayhem

[joosttx]

I'd go 29/27.5+ like the spot mayhem

everyone is slowly moving towards what I am going to do with $6000.

[dmurphey]

the seven evergreen is super cool.

trying to top a moots rsl is pretty tough. lightweight road bikes:
Trek Emonda SL 7, then change to SRAM eTap disc, a little over budget, need Quark powermeter w it
Spec S-works Tarmac or Roubaix w eTap and disc are over budget
Canyon Ultimate CF SLX disc 9.0 aero w SRAM etap is $500 over, but under 16#

you need a carbon fat tire bike, I think:
The 3T Stada is over budget.
The 3T Exploro is in budget and can go fat or skinny tire.
The Moots Route is over budget.

YMMV

Cheers

[Ryun]

For a 50th birthday, Id go in a different route.
Dorian De Rosa's Bixxis has to be one of the best buys out there at the moment.
Full custom spirit bike with falz 2 fork, pmp post and headset delivered with a panel paint job to the US for under 3k USD. Plenty left over for a nice campy group and wheels.

Might not be lighter than the moots, but a classic bike torched by a legend IMO.
Ryun

[sandyrs]

Yeah ok then why not? Prove it please...because they got like every new trendy thing out there in bicycle land that costs stupid money.

ebikes aren't bicycles.

[SPOKE]

I'd get something somewhat unique that you won't see every day on you local rides. My choice would be the Kirk Onesto. You could possibly build this up to be as light as your current bike but you'd probably need to source a lightly used set of light weight wheels under 1400gms to stay under budget.

Second choice would be either a Colnago C60 or the new VR2 from Maestro as mentioned earlier. Both these bikes would meet the lighter weight requirement.

If you weren't really concerned about weight then I'd get in que for one of the Zank MXL's. At $4200 for frame & fork you'd have enough cash left over to build it up with Campy Chorus or DA mechanical.

[rallizes]

i like the Zank MXL idea a lot

something very special