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Karbon
09-17-2006, 11:54 AM
So I decide I want a steel frame, preferably lugged, to use in the muck of winter (so able to take my fave Pave CG's) which I'll fit with some of the Campy stuff I have laying around, add a set of Syncro2 downtube levers, and take out of the sealed bag the Record Aero levers I have had since 199something. I figure I'll spend about $1000 on something that catches my eye if it's new. I troll around this forum and a couple of others, send emails to a few builders over the pond, and then I think of Ebay... :crap:

Now I own a NIB Colnago Master (not from Ebay, but from Holland of all places), I'm bidding on a Tommasini MS tubed frame, and I just saw a lovely red Pinarello that would look great with some C-Record stuff I have/could get. Where does it end? Will I buy frames only to sell them? Will I need a bigger than the 3-car garage I already have? Or do I need to watch Finding Nemo again with the kids "fish are our friends, not food"????

HELP!

shinomaster
09-17-2006, 12:26 PM
maybe you and frank could share a garage.

chrisroph
09-17-2006, 12:48 PM
Just don't offer up my garage john.

texbike
09-17-2006, 02:19 PM
So I decide I want a steel frame, preferably lugged, to use in the muck of winter (so able to take my fave Pave CG's) which I'll fit with some of the Campy stuff I have laying around, add a set of Syncro2 downtube levers, and take out of the sealed bag the Record Aero levers I have had since 199something. I figure I'll spend about $1000 on something that catches my eye if it's new. I troll around this forum and a couple of others, send emails to a few builders over the pond, and then I think of Ebay... :crap:

Now I own a NIB Colnago Master (not from Ebay, but from Holland of all places), I'm bidding on a Tommasini MS tubed frame, and I just saw a lovely red Pinarello that would look great with some C-Record stuff I have/could get. Where does it end? Will I buy frames only to sell them? Will I need a bigger than the 3-car garage I already have? Or do I need to watch Finding Nemo again with the kids "fish are our friends, not food"????

HELP!

Brother,

Welcome to the club. There really should be a 12 step program for those of us who have a fascination with classic, lugged-steel road frames. I can't stay away from them! In the last two weeks I have stumbled upon an old Pogliaghi track bike from the 70s that I couldn't pass up along with a mid 90s NOS Pinarello and an early 70s Raleigh Competition. I didn't even ask about the Pinarello hanging in the local shop. It is absolutely stunning and I didn't want to be tempted. The $25 for the Raleigh Competition seemed reasonable so I bought it. I didn't need another bike, so it went to my 14 year old neighbor kid who has developed a fascination for old steel (mostly English) bikes. He couldn't stop talking about the old brooks saddle and the nervex lugs.

There are just too many cool old machines floating around in the garages, basements, and utility sheds of America not to mention Europe.

If you're not careful, you could end up owning several of these things before you even realize it and then you'll be forced to hang out with Dale and the crew on the Classic Rendezvous mailing list.

If your family decides to put together an intervention, please have them contact my wife. She may be interested in working with them to develop a group therapy session for those of us bitten by the bug.

Cheers,

Texbike

Karbon
09-17-2006, 02:49 PM
maybe you and frank could share a garage.


It's funny, I originally titled this thread "I understand Franks pain"

Kevan
09-18-2006, 10:50 AM
You think you're alone?

I can't even afford the good stuff. I have to settle for crack.

J.Greene
09-18-2006, 11:23 AM
Where does it end? Will I buy frames only to sell them? Will I need a bigger than the 3-car garage I already have? Or do I need to watch Finding Nemo again with the kids "fish are our friends, not food"????
HELP!

where does it end? For me it was building my own frame. Now I'm building frames 2 and 3. I own an alignment table and a frame jig. Sometimes I wish I were content with a madone and yellow wristband atmo. Where does it end?

JG

Karbon
09-18-2006, 11:30 AM
where does it end? For me it was building my own frame. Now I'm building frames 2 and 3. I own an alignment table and a frame jig. Sometimes I wish I were content with a madone and yellow wristband atmo. Where does it end?

JG

It stops sometime after you build a frame for me :p

Karbon
09-18-2006, 11:31 AM
You think you're alone?

I can't even afford the good stuff. I have to settle for crack.

Nope, hence the post.

J.Greene
09-18-2006, 11:49 AM
It stops sometime after you build a frame for me :p

besides needing more skill, I've priced myself out of the market. With your deposit I'd need 25 years worth of insurance premiums up front.

so what color do you want it? :beer:

JG

Karbon
09-18-2006, 11:56 AM
besides needing more skill, I've priced myself out of the market. With your deposit I'd need 25 years worth of insurance premiums up front.

so what color do you want it? :beer:

JG

Trying to compete with eRitchie huh?

So you want me to be a crash test dummy AND pay for your insurance in case I do get some road rash? Do you live in Nigeria? :confused:

Light metallic blue please, with SS dropouts (polished) and FD braze on. Oh, how about SS polished lugs? :banana:

Karbon
09-18-2006, 11:58 AM
Hey Tex,

Your wife and mine should never meet...

Problem is, what do I do with all this spare '90's Campy stuff? I could sell it, or buy another frame, there's this one listed on ebay (AKA the devil)...hmm :crap:

J.Greene
09-18-2006, 12:10 PM
Trying to compete with eRitchie huh?

So you want me to be a crash test dummy AND pay for your insurance in case I do get some road rash? Do you live in Nigeria? :confused:

Light metallic blue please, with SS dropouts (polished) and FD braze on. Oh, how about SS polished lugs? :banana:

I couldn't make a tshirt as well as richie.

Do you blame the bike everytime you fall of and get road rash? I don't think we should proceed in this relationship.

That would make a pretty bike.

JG

Karbon
09-18-2006, 01:01 PM
I couldn't make a tshirt as well as richie.

Do you blame the bike everytime you fall of and get road rash? I don't think we should proceed in this relationship.

That would make a pretty bike.

JG

Nor me.

No I don't blame the bike at all, unless it's something the bike caused. Normally it's operator error though, even when I'm just riding along drinking McD's coffee....

It would make a pretty bike, all aluminum Record, Deltas, Veloflex Criteriums, Ambrosio Nemesis rims, Cinelli XA stem and Top66 bars...er, see how easy it is??? :crap:

OperaLover
09-18-2006, 07:14 PM
and I am addicted to bikes.

I just built up a beautiful NOS Colnago Tecnos AD 11 with chromed steel straight blade fork (off and MXL; thanks slowgoing!). Record 8-speed hubs, ExaDrive cassette, old style Record post, 2002 Record crank, FIR rims, Chorus BB, and FD, Centaur RD, Cinelli stem, 3T bar, Suntour Superbe pro aero brakes (with the hidden springs) and DT friction shifters, Turbo Special edition saddle (preforated white with gold badging), white Deda tape, VIttoria tires with skin walls. All white and silvery . . .

Now I want a DeRosa Neo Primato. . . My wife will go ballistic! It's a sickness, but it beats the alternative . . .

(picture to follow!)

slowgoing
09-18-2006, 08:10 PM
Count me in. Recent acquisitions: Colnago Super; Olmo Competition.

steelrider
09-18-2006, 10:15 PM
You fellows are preaching to the choir. Not only do the old-school, lugged and brazed bikes look fantastic, they are still perfectly functional. Hard to beat. If one performs the most basic of maintenance, they will outlast all of us.

Benjamin
09-18-2006, 11:24 PM
yesssss... my johnny coast custom steel track frame and stem (just an excust to post pictures, i guess).

http://thirdrate.com/bikes/coast/coast3_t.jpg
http://thirdrate.com/bikes/coast/coast4_t.jpg
http://thirdrate.com/bikes/coast/coast5_t.jpg
http://thirdrate.com/bikes/coast/coast7_t.jpg
http://thirdrate.com/bikes/coast/coast8_t.jpg

shanerpvt
09-19-2006, 06:43 AM
yesssss... my johnny coast custom steel track frame and stem (just an excust to post pictures, i guess).

http://thirdrate.com/bikes/coast/coast3_t.jpg
http://thirdrate.com/bikes/coast/coast4_t.jpg
http://thirdrate.com/bikes/coast/coast5_t.jpg
http://thirdrate.com/bikes/coast/coast7_t.jpg
http://thirdrate.com/bikes/coast/coast8_t.jpg


MORE PICS, MORE, MORE, MORE!!!!

Karbon
09-19-2006, 09:19 AM
You fellows are preaching to the choir. Not only do the old-school, lugged and brazed bikes look fantastic, they are still perfectly functional. Hard to beat. If one performs the most basic of maintenance, they will outlast all of us.

What better place to get encouragement? :beer:

znfdl
09-19-2006, 10:16 AM
Lugged steel frames are great. My wife gets in the way from me making more purchases. She even made me sell two bikes last year, so that I could buy a new bike. That hurt.

Benjamin: That is one purdy bike. Is it inna 54 or 53 cm :D