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stackie
10-18-2017, 01:10 PM
Starting the dreaming over an all road / gravel grinder bike.

Since, I have always been a roadie, the disc hub aspect is puzzling.

Sounds like center lock is the way to go and through axle is the way to go. But, what about axle spacing? 135 vs 142? I'm a bigger guy (6'4 and 200-210 lbs), so I don't want wimpy wheels. So wider flanges seem like a good plan, maybe go to boost spacing?

So, my dream hub would be quiet, wide flange spacing, durable, with center lock compatibility. And, what the heck, since I want a unicorn, let's make it pink. Seriously, extra credit if it can be obtained in pink anodized.

What do the illuminati say?

Thanks in advance.

Jon

oldpotatoe
10-18-2017, 01:13 PM
Starting the dreaming over an all road / gravel grinder bike.

Since, I have always been a roadie, the disc hub aspect is puzzling.

Sounds like center lock is the way to go and through axle is the way to go. But, what about axle spacing? 135 vs 142? I'm a bigger guy (6'4 and 200-210 lbs), so I don't want wimpy wheels. So wider flanges seem like a good plan, maybe go to boost spacing?

So, my dream hub would be quiet, wide flange spacing, durable, with center lock compatibility. And, what the heck, since I want a unicorn, let's make it pink. Seriously, extra credit if it can be obtained in pink anodized.

What do the illuminati say?

Thanks in advance.

Jon

Pink? Chris King. Other blander colors? WI. Black? DT350. If TA, 142mm.

sandyrs
10-18-2017, 01:24 PM
Don't get Boost. There is absolutely no need and road drivetrains are not built around a Boost chainline.

jtbadge
10-18-2017, 01:35 PM
Pink? Disc?

Industry Nine or White Industries would be my choice. CK's pink color is washed out if you can even get it in the hub configuration you need.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1117/3012/products/Pink_CLD_grande_0e314871-cc91-4f1f-9e9a-83e4ca9b634e_grande.png?v=1495607470



https://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server4400/ox79uhj/images/stencil/500x659/products/35259/87977/rear_pink__81333.1427915357.PNG?c=2

mktng
10-18-2017, 01:36 PM
DT240 ?
Seem like no bs bullet proof hubs

GRAVELBIKE
10-18-2017, 01:55 PM
Unless you're going to be running 3" wide tires, Boost spacing is overkill.

Is your frame spaced 135mm or 142mm? Q/R or thru-axle? 10- or 11-speed? Shimano freehub or XD?

Pink? That narrows the list quite a bit (CK, WI, I9, Onyx).

Istone
10-18-2017, 02:04 PM
Industry Nine Road/CX Disc Hubs. 12x100 front, 12x142 rear. Centerline rotors for weight savings.

Every other answer is wrong.

ergott
10-18-2017, 02:21 PM
The standard for road thru axle is either 15 or 12mm front (check fork manufacturers) and 142X12 rear.

I wouldn't purchase a frame that deviated from that.

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Nooch
10-18-2017, 02:22 PM
I happen to have a set of pink ck classic 135/100 quick release 6-bolt hubs, 32/32, previously used (not by me) in the pale pink that I was considering unloading... If you have any interest hit me up via PM and we'll talk..

ergott
10-18-2017, 02:24 PM
Industry Nine Road/CX Disc Hubs. 12x100 front, 12x142 rear. Centerline rotors for weight savings.

Every other answer is wrong.I've had to true too many centerline rotors. It's Shimano Ice Tech for me. They perform really well under hard braking and less likely to need touch up truing as well.

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stackie
10-18-2017, 02:43 PM
The frame can be spaced to whatever spec I choose. :)

Planning eTap hydro, but Ice Tech rotors.

Any thoughts on Project 321 hubs? Pros are that they are quiet. Cons are that only 6 bolt for moment, and that they are a relatively new company.

Jon

ergott
10-18-2017, 02:54 PM
The frame can be spaced to whatever spec I choose. :)

Planning eTap hydro, but Ice Tech rotors.

Any thoughts on Project 321 hubs? Pros are that they are quiet. Cons are that only 6 bolt for moment, and that they are a relatively new company.

Jon

Their standard design used Industry 9 internals so the hubs were great. I don't have any feedback on the new internals, but they look interesting. They are always a pleasure to talk to on the phone so I'd have no issues trying them out myself.

doomridesout
10-18-2017, 02:59 PM
White Industries CLD 100mm/142mm 12mm thru.

macaroon
10-18-2017, 04:24 PM
The best hubs are DT240, although they don't come in pink.

I'd probably go for 6 bolt rotors as they work out a bit lighter.

BikeNY
10-18-2017, 04:56 PM
I'll put another vote in for DT Swiss 240s. Bombproof and pretty light, but only come in black and white. Stick with the black. They are convertable from 135mm to 142mm, so no problem there. If you want thru alxe, go 142mm, no boost for a road bike. BTW, 135mm and 142mm hubs have the same flange spacing, but the the 142mm gets you a thru axle, which at your weight you may notice. 135mm and 100mm QR would work just fine though.

CMiller
10-18-2017, 06:47 PM
I really like the white industries CLD hubs. They look great, and the titanium free hub means I can cheap out on cassettes.

oldpotatoe
10-19-2017, 07:53 AM
The best hubs are DT240, although they don't come in pink.

I'd probably go for 6 bolt rotors as they work out a bit lighter.

Another pitch for DT350..same internals as DT240 with a wee bit heavier shell, assembled in Asia(Asian made shell in DT factory) and mucho less $.

weisan
10-19-2017, 08:17 AM
DT240 = Dura Ace

DT350 = Ultegra

I have both types in my wheels but personally, I prefer Ultegra.

AngryScientist
10-19-2017, 08:21 AM
yea, i dont know anything about disc, but i have a lot of miles on DT350. just rode D2R2 and Dirtphalt on some DT350 wheels and they just keep going. I love how easy they are to pull apart and check the ratchet rings. very appropriate for a do-it-all bike.

i put 54t ratchets in mine, because i like 'em loud :)

ColonelJLloyd
10-19-2017, 08:26 AM
Another pitch for DT350..same internals as DT240 with a wee bit heavier shell, assembled in Asia(Asian made shell in DT factory) and mucho less $.

I love my DT350 rear on my all road bike. Whatever you get, make sure it's convertible. No good reason not to.

Not sure why you wouldn't want to use SRAM's rotors with SRAM calipers. Certainly you can mix and match, but I see way more Shimano calipers using Centerline X rotors than I do SRAM calipers and Shimano rotors. I guess this probably has to do with the lack of availability of Shimano's highest end rotors in 6-bolt configuration, but never looked into it. I also think the newest high end Shimano rotors are pretty garish looking.

And the DT hub comes with their own centerlock to 6 bolt adapter and lock ring which is thru axle compatible. I did NOT change the pawls in my hub because I do not like them loud. My 350 is not Shimano quiet, but not bad at all.

I'd probably go for 6 bolt rotors as they work out a bit lighter.

You're factoring the hub weight into this? Or you're suggesting using 6-bolt rotors on centerlock hubs with an adapter?

bicipunk
10-19-2017, 10:07 AM
Another vote for White Ind CLD. Their customer service is exceptional, the build quality solid, you don't need proprietary tools to overhaul (unlike CK) and I personally am much more of a fan of the ti freehub body (vs. the aluminum on I9)....

stackie
10-19-2017, 11:31 AM
I have DT 240 and 350 hubs on two wheel sets for my road bike as well as a set with Alchemy ORC hubs.. The DTs are fine. But I do prefer the alchemy hub as I can definitely feel a difference in the flex in the rear wheel, which I attribute to the wider bracing angle of the Alchemy hub as the rims and spokes are the same. Seems like DT hubs have some of the narrowest flange spacing in the business.

DT not out of the running.

Lots of love for the White hubs here.

So. Flange spacing data for boost.. I’ll just list flange to right distance.

DT 22.4mm
WI. 22.5mm
Project 321 24mm
CK 24mm
I9. 24.5

I’d had a long conversation with Jeremy at Alchemy years ago that sold me on flange spacing for wheel strength. Which seemed consistent with a progressive loss of wheel strength as we went from 7 speeds to 11. Am I just way overthinking/underthinking this?

I’d get the I9 in a heartbeat if it were not for my desire for silence. It wins on flange spacing. Has some history. And, it does come in pink.

But I think it’s the loudest of the bunch.

Noise level by hearsay only

Loudest = I9 >CK>DT=WI>project 321 quietest.

More thoughts?

Jon

ColonelJLloyd
10-19-2017, 11:53 AM
I don't get why you're considering Boost spacing. There won't be any non-custom wheelsets you'd want to use with <2" tires. Sure, the dish is better, but it's not like the current options aren't working out just fine.

stackie
10-19-2017, 12:25 PM
Good question.

My thoughts are that this the direction that all road bike segment are going. It’s a custom bike that will be a 50th bday thing for me. I dont mind spending the money for a couple of nice custom wheel sets. I guess it is a “why not?” sort of question.

The only downside that I am seeing is possible chain line issues.

But, I could be wrong. I often am! :)

Hmmm, maybe I just got confused on noisy vs 142mm.:confused:

Let me reevaluate.

Jon

ColonelJLloyd
10-19-2017, 12:31 PM
Yeah, I think you're confused. ZERO gravel/road bikes are going Boost. Boost spacing requires a different chain line so different cranks. The only cranks designed with Boost spacing in mind are 1x MTB cranks.

GRAVELBIKE
10-19-2017, 02:06 PM
Before you decide on a rear hub, consider your choice of cranks. Do you want to run road cranks or MTB cranks. If you're sticking with road cranks, 135/142mm spacing is the safest bet.

Up until recently all of my personal gravel rigs have utilized 135mm rear spacing. I'm in the process of building up a drop-bar adventure/gravel-plus bike that uses 148mm (aka, Boost) spacing, but it's closer to an MTB than a traditional gravel/road setup.

stackie
10-19-2017, 02:50 PM
Definitely staying road cranks. This bike will also see duty as an inclement weather road bike (at least as inclement as we get here in Monterey). Will have a second wheel set with 27-28 mm tubulars.

Now with 142mm axle center to right flange distance.

I9. 17mm
Project 321 21mm
Chris King 20.1mm
DT 19.4mm
White industries 19mm.

All pretty close except I9. Also, all of them (except I9) exceed the 17-18mm dimension of most 130 mm road hubs. So, would expect stronger wheel.

Still undecided... but at least I’m a bit more clear on what I’m looking at

Thanks for all your opinions and getting me on the right path! :)

Jon

AJosiahK
10-19-2017, 04:14 PM
White Industries or Industry Nine hands down...

both very serviceable and convertible

both have hot shades of pink too