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VTCaraco
10-11-2017, 09:28 AM
Just got a car for my son to have while at college.
Putting together a "kit" to keep in the trunk. This includes a good set of jumper cables, safety triangles, some basic tools, and I'd like a good flashlight. Agenda here is to make any sort of breakdown as safe as possible...

I did a search and I don't see anything recent and I imagine that this technology is constantly evolving.
Any recommendations? Seems like $40-$50 can buy a heck of an option without going too, too nuts.

Current options/brands I'm considering include:
Streamlight
Olight
Maratac
Foursevens
Anker
...

And it starts to get crazy-complicated for what seems like it should be a fairly simple decision.

Any advice?

NHAero
10-11-2017, 09:42 AM
I spend a certain amount of time in my work crawling around attics and crawl spaces. I use an LED flashlight from Fenix, the TK35, which uses two 18650 rechargeable batteries. I pair that with their HL55 headlamp, which uses a single 18650, and the headlamp, being hands-free, is actually more useful. Finally, my movable LED bike headlight is also by Fenix, also uses a single 18650 battery, and is the BC21R.
Not cheap, but super high quality, great customer service, very reliable, and it's really nice to have interchangeable batteries and a single charger.

William
10-11-2017, 09:55 AM
This is cheaper option...

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rayovac-Workhorse-Pro-2AA-LED-Virtually-Indestructible-Flashlight-DIY2AA-BC/206767090

That said, I have used this for tac-flashlight training and they have held up to the abuse and impact that we put them through. The rubber ends absorb impact so it's a bit safer if you get hit with it but it also does a good job of protecting it if and when it gets dropped. Super bright with two brightness modes, tough aluminum body, and cheap. A no brainer to me for keeping in the car.






William

parris
10-11-2017, 10:07 AM
I've got a number of the inexpensive Tasco and Duracell branded flashlights that Sams/Costco often times has as a 3 for $20.00 pack that have all worked fine. I believe they're 300 lumen lights which are plenty bright and they've all been durable.

chiasticon
10-11-2017, 10:11 AM
I don't have any real advice except to say don't get too nuts. the kid will bust out his iPhone for a flashlight well before he'll go to the trunk. trunk flashlight will only get used if the phone dies or if he can't reach help by phone and has to walk somewhere. and it's dark, obviously. so maybe focus on longer run time versus more lumens?

parris
10-11-2017, 10:16 AM
^ great point.

MattTuck
10-11-2017, 10:24 AM
I personally have an LL Bean wind up flash light similar to this one. (https://www.amazon.com/Dynamo-Illuminator-Wind-up-LED-Flashlight/dp/B0009H50OA)

My personal view, living in the Northeast is that lots of freeze/thaw cycles, you forget to change the batteries after a while.... I'd rather have something that provides some light on demand, than a super nice flashlight that could be dead.

Ken Robb
10-11-2017, 10:31 AM
I didn't read all the responses and I have no recommendation but I wonder: since the OP is assembling an emergency kit for an automobile I'd think that a light that could be propped up to shine on a wheel to help a guy change a wheel at night. Maybe a "normal" stick shape light would be ok if it had a wide-angle pattern of light?

FL_MarkD
10-11-2017, 10:35 AM
Jumper cables are so "90's" :)

Take a look at this option, jumps your car, flashlight, and charges your phone too. Many different offerings, this is one I just bought for myself.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MY9FZM4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

cp43
10-11-2017, 10:36 AM
I personally have an LL Bean wind up flash light similar to this one. (https://www.amazon.com/Dynamo-Illuminator-Wind-up-LED-Flashlight/dp/B0009H50OA)

My personal view, living in the Northeast is that lots of freeze/thaw cycles, you forget to change the batteries after a while.... I'd rather have something that provides some light on demand, than a super nice flashlight that could be dead.

You make a very good point about charging and infrequent use, but we've had one or two of those wind up ones die after a long period of not winding them up. Based on that, I'm not sure they're the best solution for this use case. Unfortunately, I don't have a better answer. :(

gdw
10-11-2017, 10:39 AM
I keep a headlamp in the center console for general and emergency use. It provides plenty of light and allows me to work with both hands. Princeton Tec and Black Diamond as well as a number of other companies offer a wide variety of models in your price range.

William
10-11-2017, 10:41 AM
Even emergency kits need maintenance. Flashlight and extra batteries should be there and changed out every so often.

As far as the hands free point, I would go with NHaero's and gdw's point about a headband light in addition to the option I posted above.







William

wallymann
10-11-2017, 10:47 AM
i have AAx2 torches with zoomable projector-style lenses and CREE LED emitters in my gloveboxes. cost like $10/ea.

prefer AA cell based torches because they're ubiquitous, since they're emergency-use-only i fit expensive lithium disposables for good shelf-life.

adding a headlamp to my roadside kit sounds like a good idea!

VTCaraco
10-11-2017, 10:55 AM
I'm in complete agreement that he'll have his iPhone flashlight with him, so this is looking for something MORE.

William and others ~ are the HD versions close enough that it makes no sense to buy the bigger named brands?

One that really strikes me is the Foursevens Mini MKII (https://www.foursevens.com/products/ML-IIC-AF). This gets rave reviews in a number of places and seems to tick a lot of boxes.

And as for use, I'm definitely imagining this as an emergency-accessory, but cool flashlights seem pretty neat to me, so I'd hope it's not just a glove-compartment-and-forget-it tool. If that's the ultimate fate, then I'd definitely do the HD option.

William
10-11-2017, 11:08 AM
I'm in complete agreement that he'll have his iPhone flashlight with him, so this is looking for something MORE.

William and others ~ are the HD versions close enough that it makes no sense to buy the bigger named brands?

One that really strikes me is the Foursevens Mini MKII (https://www.foursevens.com/products/ML-IIC-AF). This gets rave reviews in a number of places and seems to tick a lot of boxes.

And as for use, I'm definitely imagining this as an emergency-accessory, but cool flashlights seem pretty neat to me, so I'd hope it's not just a glove-compartment-and-forget-it tool. If that's the ultimate fate, then I'd definitely do the HD option.


That seems like a good light, but may be overkill for a glove box/trunk occupier.

What I would EDC on me would be different then what I have for training/use around the house. That said, the one I recommended above I did so because it was low cost, tough, very bright, and dependable. I, as well as many of my students, have used these for a couple of years now and none of us have had any issues with them. I use it around the house as well and I can even see very far back into the woods across my property at night with it.

For an EDC light I want one that is bright to blind, but also metal. Rubber is being too nice if you have to use it for impact purposes. :)







William

Dirtdiggler
10-11-2017, 11:40 AM
I bought a rechargeable led trouble light / flashlight from Eastwood. I added a cigarette style socket in the trunk of my accord and I keep it plugged in. I can turn it on if needed instead of that crappy low light trunk lid and storage/replacement/corrosion of batteries is a non issue.

bart998
10-11-2017, 12:12 PM
I've bought these Lil Larry lights for each of my kids and wife to keep in their cars... They are lantern style instead of a beam, two brightness levels, have a red flasher mode and a magnetic base to stick onto the car. https://www.amazon.com/Flashlight-Magnetic-Worklight-EdisonBright-batteries/dp/B01G62TZK6/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1507741748&sr=8-6&keywords=lil+larry+nebo

chrismoustache
10-11-2017, 12:22 PM
I have one of the FourSevens and love it. I pick up some of the 123a batteries via Amazon and I'm good to go. It stays with me on my keys so I always have it ready.

The light also works really well with the flashlight holder (https://www.rivbike.com/products/twofish-flashlight-holder?variant=23333322305) that Twofish puts out. Super handy when I forget my commuting lights or get caught out after dark.

For other bits, I do light Princeton Tec's offerings. Most are made in the USA and their customer service is top notch.

The EveryDayCarry blogs are good to sift through for more ideas.

dustyrider
10-11-2017, 02:00 PM
Headlamp from petzl. Be sure to check the batteries every now and again. Nothing like having to crawl around under a car covered in grease and mud while trying to hold a light on the area you're working on...:bike:

charliedid
10-11-2017, 02:02 PM
I keep a headlamp in the center console for general and emergency use. It provides plenty of light and allows me to work with both hands. Princeton Tec and Black Diamond as well as a number of other companies offer a wide variety of models in your price range.

This ^

That said if you want a flashlight this one is great.

http://www.theemsstore.com/store/product.aspx/productId/24324/selectedVariationId/86875/SureFire-G2X-Pro-Dual-Output-Nitrolon-LED-Flashlight?utm_source=google&utm_campaign=google&utm_content=86875&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_czKmqHp1gIVkjVpCh0mlwktEAQYAyAB EgIbM_D_BwE

11.4
10-11-2017, 04:40 PM
I live with flashlights and every time I go into a disaster area I bring a pack with at least a dozen flashlights. There are some super-cheap Mini MagLites (the LED version at least) that are basically giveaways I don't expect to get back. Then there are some intermediate grade ones (mostly Fenix which I can get at a big professional discount) that put out a ton of light and take CR123a batteries. And then I have a couple really nice ones for my own use, mostly Elzetta's, and I make sure I bring those home with me. They also take CR123a's.

Here's the deal. Whatever you use, replace the original batteries with lithium ion ones. They can sit for twenty years without losing power. They work in the cold where alkaline batteries lose all power. And when you use them they give you 3-4 times the amount of use before they fade. And if you need a compact 2200 lumen flashlight that's compatible with all your other lighting equipment, you can load eight CR123a's at a time into these scorchers and have enough light to signal to passing airliners.

I prefer the CR123a batteries because they have more capacity than AAA's and AA's and because I have the option with most 2-battery CR123a flashlights of using the rechargeable 18650 substitutes (one 18650 = 2 CR123a). However, I use the 18650's rarely and absolutely do not rely on the 18650's as my only battery. They don't last anywhere near as long and if they run down and you don't have 110 volts and a charger, you're hosed. I carry spare CR123a's in little plastic clips that keep them save (Powerpax Storacell's from Amazon, about $5 for a clip that holds four CR123a's). The batteries I have now are all expiration dated about 20 years out. I can live with that. Buy bulk batteries from Amazon (the Surefire brand ones are inexpensive in boxes of a dozen and work really well.).

choke
10-11-2017, 05:03 PM
I use a flashlight at work every day. I used to carry a Streamlight Stinger LED but a couple of years ago I switched to an Olight S30RII. Both are rechargeable and have multiple output settings.

The Streamlight is a nice flashlight though it is on the larger side. The beam is strong and bright and has a decent runtime. You can buy it in various forms, the most expensive comes with both AC and DC chargers so it can be recharged in a vehicle. It takes a proprietary battery though replacements are inexpensive.

The Olight is beam is almost as strong/bright as the Streamlight but is physically much smaller. The charger is USB based so it's easy to charge in a vehicle as well. It takes a proprietary 18650 battery although you can use CR123s if needed. It also has a magnetic end which can come in very handy....it can be held in place by sticking it on something metal.

If I had to pick one of the two it would be the Olight. The smaller form factor is a big reason in my choice.

The recommendation for a Petzl headlamp is also good. They are good quality and very nice to have when you need both hands free.

PeregrineA1
10-11-2017, 05:10 PM
WRT battery life. I keep a Surefire with 2 CR123 batteries on my boat and the majority of the time it sits idle. The batteries are easily 2-3 years old. It works every time I need it. And every time I need it I tell myself to replace the batteries. Then I go fishing and forget all my troubles....and to change the batteries when I get home.

jmoore
10-11-2017, 05:14 PM
I generally don't lose or break stuff like sunglasses. But I can't seem to keep a flashlight for more than a year or so before they vanish. I recently lost a Streamlight ProTac which I really liked. I think because all the small flashlights are black, they are easy to lose for me, esp at the ranch or when I'm hunting. They seem to vaporize in the field to never be found again.

So I just picked up a Pelican 3315 because it's a Pelican and it's bright yellow and it's not tiny. They also have a glow in the dark version. I prefer AA batteries because I can find replacements anywhere.

https://www.batteryjunction.com/pelican-033150-0150-opt.html

A headlamp is a great idea.