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weisan
08-21-2017, 03:38 PM
About a year ago, i started building my own wheels. That was a great experience and save me a ton. But things have sort of got out of hand, I ended up with 15 extra pair of wheels (not counting the ones that are mounted on the bikes) and running out of space to put them.

Much like the bike storage thread, I am looking for creative ways to maximize space used for wheel storage.

Any suggestions?

batman1425
08-21-2017, 03:42 PM
Lots of hooks. If you have the vertical space, an "S" hook will let you hang a second from the bottom of the first, all from a single point on the ceiling. Can also use the short ball bungies for wheel 1 to 2 links. Keeps everything organized as vertical pairs.

Gummee
08-21-2017, 03:45 PM
I went to one of the home improvement stores and bought some 3/4" threaded pipe and flanges.

Screw em into studs and they're probably strong enough to hang bikes on, but I haven't tried that

M

weisan
08-21-2017, 03:49 PM
Thanks for the tip bat pal, unfortunately I don't have a high ceiling or else that would work.

Gummee pal, I have a hard time visualizing, do you have a pic?

Lewis Moon
08-21-2017, 04:02 PM
I can store your Campy wheels....

RobJ
08-21-2017, 04:05 PM
Thanks for the tip bat pal, unfortunately I don't have a high ceiling or else that would work.

Gummee pal, I have a hard time visualizing, do you have a pic?

Not taking credit for Gummee's idea, which actually, gave me an idea for an issue I needed help with :banana:... But thinking something like this where you just slide the wheels onto the pipe.

Gummee
08-21-2017, 04:31 PM
Yeah

Like that

M

loxx0050
08-21-2017, 04:54 PM
How about something like a display rack at the store like so:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/3a/63/da/3a63da7738a0fbae978c58f6d43094ab--retail-jewelry-display-jewelry-display-stands.jpg

Except big enough for 2 or 3 stacks of wheels.

kppolich
08-21-2017, 05:19 PM
I've tried a few different things here in my small studio apartment (420sq ft) for wheel and bike storage.

I used there from Lowes to mount my TT bike, but there is no reason you couldn't keep the mount straight and hang a set of wheels on them. I bent them out a little to hug the wheels
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4213/34545098314_7f91d7543e_c.jpg
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Blue-Hawk-12-57-in-Gray-Steel-Utility-Hook/50218519


I also use these to hang a pair (one on the hook hanging below and one sitting on the hook above)
like so:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4170/33888046660_3526cf1ab0_c.jpg
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Blue-Hawk-2-Pack-7-in-Gray-Steel-Multi-Tool-Hangers/50218513

sg8357
08-21-2017, 06:53 PM
Wheels are best stored on bikes.

zmudshark
08-21-2017, 07:03 PM
Wheel bags on hooks.

Clean39T
08-21-2017, 08:13 PM
Wheel bags on hooks.

Definitely the safest - and the ying to the "lean your bike against the wall four feet up in the air" yang above - I hope they don't live in earthquake country :eek: - though I do applaud the inventiveness and ability to make 420 sqft work without going to N=1.

Gummee
08-21-2017, 08:33 PM
I've got 5 pair of carbon tubulars for CX right behind me in bags in the den. I've got the rest of the wheels hanging from the aforementioned flanges and pipes.

I'm down a few pair of wheels, but still don't have enough storage!

Good problem to have

M

chiasticon
08-22-2017, 07:08 AM
But things have sort of got out of hand, I ended up with 15 extra pair of wheels (not counting the ones that are mounted on the bikes):eek:

wow, I thought I was bad. I don't think I have 15 pairs total. think I'm at a dozen, with half of them being cross tubulars.

what kind of space are you working with?

me, I have an unfinished basement with bare beams on the ceiling, so I just screwed a bunch of the rubber coated bike hooks into those. cheap and simple.

texbike
08-22-2017, 08:04 AM
It would be helpful to see the space that you're working with, but a set of shelf brackets combined with a length of electrical conduit and some zip ties would go a long way to storing the wheelsets. I put together a heavier duty version of the above system to store bikes on (and wheels) and it works great.

You're welcome to come by and see it if you like.

Texbike

Brian Cdn
08-22-2017, 10:57 AM
Some hooks and 1" x 2" strapping...

I spaced the hooks a bit wider than the widest wheel without skewers.

Gummee
08-22-2017, 11:15 AM
For really small spaces, get a flange, a short section of pipe, then a t, then two longer pieces of pipe. Hang the flange off the ceiling around the edge of the place

M

weisan
08-22-2017, 07:27 PM
Appreciate all the suggestions.

I was doing some re-organizing around the garage the last couple of days. At one point, got quite disgusted with the amount of "waste" and consumption so I resolved to use what I already have to make this work without going to the store. Found an old wooden pole broken on one end, some leftover steel wire from a previous project my son and I did together and use it to make the S-hooks, two bicycle hooks == and this is the result, doesn't look as nice but it works.

http://alicehui.com/bike/misc/IMG_7583.jpg

http://alicehui.com/bike/misc/IMG_7580.jpg

PWong87
08-22-2017, 07:52 PM
Wow! Do you end up using all of your wheelsets?

weisan
08-22-2017, 09:18 PM
Wow! Do you end up using all of your wheelsets?

Mostly yes. I hesitate to sell them to anyone because of "liability" issue. They all turned out to be solid built, none requires any tune up or fix after a year plus of heavy use, who would have thought I am actually a fairly decent wheel builder. At the rate it's going, these wheels are going to last me for quite a while. But the problem is, I don't want to get rusty or forget how to build so every few months I will get the itch and take on another project. I have a box full of hubs still waiting on me....:eek:

weisan
08-22-2017, 09:32 PM
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pcxmbfj
08-23-2017, 08:25 AM
EMT electrical conduit will be stronger than a wooden pole and about $3 for 10'.

RobJ
08-23-2017, 08:40 AM
Home Depot sells these Hang-All large velcro straps with a carabiner end that work well for strapping rims or tires together for hanging. This way you get a many-to-one-hook ratio.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-36-in-Zinc-Plated-Steel-Hang-All-36297/204695689

chiasticon
08-23-2017, 08:46 AM
Home Depot sells these Hang-All large velcro straps with a carabiner end that work well for strapping rims or tires together for hanging. This way you get a many-to-one-hook ratio.toe straps do the same thing. :D

dddd
08-23-2017, 01:34 PM
Space for wheels got tight here so I used the lowest headroom in my crawl space workshop for wheel storage.

The wheelsets can be somewhat nested like fish scales, secured in pairs using two zip-ties.

Indoors even with with drywall you can use just a few heavy screw-in hooks to support pipe from the ceiling. My approach was minimal cost for both the wheel storage and bike storage solutions pictured below:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7406/10091034666_3ebac85ee6_b.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7414/10091001103_8862dd5b15_c.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5466/10080864913_db84231e60_c.jpg

RobJ
08-23-2017, 01:39 PM
Space for wheels got tight here so I used the lowest headroom in my crawl space workshop for wheel storage.

The wheelsets can be somewhat nested like fish scales, secured in pairs using two zip-ties.

Indoors even with with drywall you can use just a few heavy screw-in hooks to support pipe from the ceiling. My approach was minimal cost for both the wheel storage and bike storage solutions pictured below:

Nice collection! For the bikes, can't tell exactly what you are using to hang them from the pipe?

dddd
08-23-2017, 02:21 PM
Thank you RobJ.

I had to make a tool in order to make good hooks. I ended up making most of my own S-hooks out of 3/16" steel rod.

I had to build a fixture with a stack of fender washers as a mandrel, and a grooved roller on the driver peg. The fixed "anchor" peg gets some bite on the rod with it's square-edged head adjusted to a precise height for the particular rod diameter.

I used it to bend hooks up to 3/8" diameter, which conveniently took so much force that it made a useful grove in the mandrel for subsequent usage!


Starting with a cardboard mock-up, I made the working version from 1/4" steel strip sold at Home Depot. This ate up several hours!

Here is the mock-up, and the device shown in action:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7148/6800131865_0e39c746a0_b.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7026/6768737983_481e106462_z.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7167/6750841237_38f02f33db_z.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7036/6942656175_c9c2b2d726_c.jpg



I later discovered that I could buy thinner-guage S-hooks at the .99 store. Six for $1!!!

With a smaller bend radius, the thinner hooks will hold a 30# bike just fine, but the pipe diameter needs to conform. A larger bend radius effects more unbending leverage that reduces the load capacity!
That said, my bigger hooks are much easier to hook bikes/wheels onto, and can hold over 50# in the 3/16" diameter. The 3/8" rod test specimen could easily suspend a mid-size motorcycle.

For mounting the hanging pipe to the indoor ceiling, I found short, thick hooks at True Value that literally snap onto 3/4" black iron pipe and thread well into ceiling joists as shown in my above earlier post.

This lowest-cost fixture below was my first. It held 14 heavy bikes easily with the (sagging ) 2-inch steel pipe across the top:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7146/6750839647_fcd414aa77_z.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7168/6793205821_1b645dfc58_z.jpg

cderalow
08-23-2017, 02:54 PM
I ended up making my own S-hooks out of 3/16" steel rod.

I had to build a fixture with a stack of fender washers as a mandrel, and a grooved roller on the driver peg. The fixed peg gets some bite on the rod with it's square-edged head adjusted to a recise height for the particular rod diameter.

I used it to bend hooks up to 3/8" diameter, which conveniently took so much force that it made a useful grove in the mandrel for subsequent usage!
Thank you RobJ.

I had to make a tool in order to make good hooks.

Starting with a cardboard mock-up, I made the working version from 1/4" steel strip sold at Home Depot. This ate up several hours!

Here is the mock-up and the device shown in action:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7148/6800131865_0e39c746a0_b.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7026/6768737983_481e106462_z.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7167/6750841237_38f02f33db_z.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7036/6942656175_c9c2b2d726_c.jpg



I later discovered that I could buy thinner-guage S-hooks at the .99 store.

With a smaller bend radius, the thiner hooks will hold a 30# bike just fine, but the pipe diameter needs to conform. A larger bend radius effects more unbending leverage that reduces the load capacity!
That said, my bigger hooks are much easier to hook bikes/wheels onto, and can hold over 50# in the 3/16" diameter.

For mounting the hanging pipe to the indoor ceiling, I found short, thick hooks at True Value that literally snap onto 3/4" black iron pipe and thread well into ceiling joists as shown in my above earlier post.

This lowest-cost fixture below was my first. It held 14 heavy bikes easily with the (sagging ) 2-inch steel pipe across the top:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7146/6750839647_fcd414aa77_z.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7168/6793205821_1b645dfc58_z.jpg


you sir, may have a problem.

dddd
08-23-2017, 03:01 PM
you sir, may have a problem.

At least the clunkers didn't follow me to my new digs! Half of those belonged to a neighbor when we load-tested my contraption.

59dualcab
08-23-2017, 03:22 PM
I put my wheels into wheel-bags and hang them in a closet on coat hooks.

weisan
08-23-2017, 03:38 PM
I put my wheels into wheel-bags and hang them in a closet on coat hooks.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/48/40/d0/4840d033181591ccb4523bd98328ecda--dressing-rooms-modern-dressing-room.jpg