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Jgrooms
07-25-2017, 03:02 PM
Sperm concentration has declined 50 percent in 40 years in Western men - The Washington Post
https://apple.news/AMMDlYNspSbGV2sY4yrU42g

Hopefully its 'fake news' ;-)


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Dead Man
07-25-2017, 03:16 PM
Nature/natural selection will win, in the end... we keep trying to beat the system with modern medicine, but the species must have a means to cull the herd to survive the long haul.

Unless and until, of course, the Singularity brings about the end to natural biology. Either by destroying it, or synthesizing it...

AngryScientist
07-25-2017, 03:21 PM
nope. not worried about it.

Matthew
07-25-2017, 03:25 PM
Not worried about it either. Got snipped a long time ago and never had kids. And after looking at the news every day I hope more and more dirt bags can't have kids. Sorry, just how I feel. Probably comes from working in Corrections since 1991.

Jgrooms
07-25-2017, 03:30 PM
Well personally it doesn't mean anything for me. On a humanity level, since I believe its environmental, its another proverbial canary in the coal mine.




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otis
07-25-2017, 03:56 PM
I blame the internet.

Tickdoc
07-25-2017, 04:19 PM
nope, not a worry. snipped here as well....although I do wonder at times where it goes? Nevermind, I don't want to know.:banana:

oldpotatoe
07-25-2017, 04:28 PM
nope. not worried about it.

Me neither, got 'fixed' in 1978.

Jgrooms
07-25-2017, 04:29 PM
I blame the internet.



Check. Sedentary lifestyle.


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texbike
07-25-2017, 04:35 PM
Stress.

kmla320
07-25-2017, 04:50 PM
Man will be extinct someday !!

Dead Man
07-25-2017, 05:02 PM
Man will be extinct someday !!

I feel like if we're even sorta careful about how we develop AI, we will in fact never go extinct... simply transcend biology as we currently think about it.

I also got the Great Snip. Wonderful thing! But not before I sired 6 offspring - sorry guis- The B's genes carry on.

mistermo
07-25-2017, 05:32 PM
My boys still swim.

http://www.webmd.com/men/news/20070222/study-suggests-vasectomy-dementia-link#1

false_Aest
07-25-2017, 05:33 PM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a3/cb/e0/a3cbe0bdd04e45e3f3c2ca1a2003f1f1.jpg


http://www.npr.org/2016/08/18/479349760/should-we-be-having-kids-in-the-age-of-climate-change

unterhausen
07-25-2017, 06:07 PM
if it went to zero, this would be good news for me

Dead Man
07-25-2017, 06:19 PM
It feels like Western society is getting all anti-human. I don't much care for it, myself.

Propagation of the species, man. We'll get off this planet, sooner than later, and spread out into the cosmos.. hopefully carrying HUMANISM and the rest of our best values to other star systems. Setting up new, much more technologically and sustainably advanced societies, better suited for those populations in those environments. And surely reversing the ecological harm we've done to this rock.

Be pro-human, guys. Our best days are ahead of us.

Frankwurst
07-25-2017, 06:21 PM
Been shooting blanks for 30 years now.:beer:

avalonracing
07-25-2017, 06:27 PM
Our best days are ahead of us.

Guess you haven't heard... the country has been officially anti-science since January 20th.

Dead Man
07-25-2017, 06:28 PM
Guess you haven't heard... the country has been officially anti-science since January 20th.

I don't even sort of believe that. Not even a little.

Fortunately, our species isn't confined to just 'Murica tho.

numbskull
07-25-2017, 06:55 PM
Geez.....I thought this was a thread about teenagers.

joosttx
07-25-2017, 07:33 PM
Unless and until, of course

Please add "insofar" next time. And thank you for the chuckle.

2LeftCleats
07-26-2017, 06:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

Every sperm is sacred.

2LeftCleats
07-26-2017, 06:32 AM
Still have live ammo, but these days it's mostly target practice.

Jgrooms
07-26-2017, 10:00 AM
Unfortunately poor sperm count is often an indicator of other health issues. For example, low testosterone.

I think in the not too distant future we will find that our exposure to plastics to be an absolute disaster to our health as well as the health of the planet.


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kingpin75s
07-26-2017, 10:20 AM
I stopped counting other peoples sperm 20 years ago, so I am out of the loop. :cool:

pncguy
07-26-2017, 10:33 AM
Guess you haven't heard... the country has been officially anti-science since January 20th.

I don't even sort of believe that. Not even a little.

Fortunately, our species isn't confined to just 'Murica tho.

The idea of this makes me want to cry. I'm a scientist myself, although I'm a practicing engineer. I also live in Boulder surrounded by climate scientists (and anti-vaccine advocates - let's not talk about THAT irony) and you'd be shocked at how many people ARE anti-science. Okay, maybe they're not "anti-science" but they don't really understand how inferences are made from data and when scientists reach conclusions, they are quick to say something like "well, that doesn't PROVE it."

I think there is a large part of the population of the country that just doesn't understand concepts like cause and effect compared to correlation, nor do they try to fact check things before they believe them... :crap:

But back on topic: no, low counts don't concern me. There are too many of us anyway, so if it helps control population growth, that's fine with me.

sailorboy
07-26-2017, 01:38 PM
Unfortunately poor sperm count is often an indicator of other health issues. For example, low testosterone.

I think in the not too distant future we will find that our exposure to plastics to be an absolute disaster to our health as well as the health of the planet.


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This ^

I read an article recently about a similar phenomenon affecting men in China and I seem to recall the timeline of the beginning of the drop in sperm counts correlated to when plastics came on the scene on a large scale.

We have met the enemy, and he is us.