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wallymann
07-10-2017, 10:29 AM
...spotted on ebay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Campagnolo-Super-Record-Down-Tube-Shifter-Levers-Extremely-Rare-NOS-/331857442981)...

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/8VQAAOSwYHxWQe30/s-l500.jpg

oldpotatoe
07-10-2017, 10:51 AM
...spotted on ebay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Campagnolo-Super-Record-Down-Tube-Shifter-Levers-Extremely-Rare-NOS-/331857442981)...

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/8VQAAOSwYHxWQe30/s-l500.jpg

The guy who does the fitting at Vecchios has a pair of these, also NOS...but he was asking about 1/3 that.
$1g a 'little' high, imho.

choke
07-10-2017, 11:06 AM
Oddly enough, these showed up in my eBay following list this morning....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIB-Campagnolo-Retro-Friction-Super-Record-shifters-/282555183956?hash=item41c999f354:g:~WkAAOSw3ydVrPK f

oldpotatoe
07-10-2017, 11:11 AM
Oddly enough, these showed up in my eBay following list this morning....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIB-Campagnolo-Retro-Friction-Super-Record-shifters-/282555183956?hash=item41c999f354:g:~WkAAOSw3ydVrPK f

Don't think those are 'retro-friction' but just standard friction. I would have to see innards to be sure but they don't look 'deep' enough plus plastic spacer on frame side where retro-friction had brass spacer.

choke
07-10-2017, 11:16 AM
Don't think those are 'retro-friction' but just standard friction. I would have to see innards to be sure but they don't look 'deep' enough plus plastic spacer on frame side where retro-friction had brass spacer.I didn't look at the pics close - I saw the price and moved on - but now that I have I think you're right, they aren't retrofrictions.

merckx
07-10-2017, 12:21 PM
Wow, those are cool, but why were they not moved to mass production?

wallymann
07-10-2017, 01:52 PM
Wow, those are cool, but why were they not moved to mass production?

i cant see the simplex design having any remaining patent protection in the early'80s...maybe it came so late that they were looking forward at c-record (which did have a retrofriction variant) and indexing.

ultraman6970
07-10-2017, 03:38 PM
I raced in those shift levers and honestly? the friction setup of Suntour cyclone, 105 and simplex were a loooooooooooootttttttt better... For its time those levers were the bomb but when retrofriction came up like the standard the other firms did a lot better job than campagnolo.

choke
07-10-2017, 04:23 PM
I raced in those shift levers and honestly? the friction setup of Suntour cyclone, 105 and simplex were a loooooooooooootttttttt better... For its time those levers were the bomb but when retrofriction came up like the standard the other firms did a lot better job than campagnolo.While I've never used the Super Record retrofrictions, I do regularly ride bikes with both Simplex and the later C-Record era retrofrictions. Other than the feel of the lever itself (the Simplex having a cutout) I don't think I could tell a difference in them if I was blindfolded....the Campy retrofrictions work great IMO.

I think you may be confusing the ones that Walter posted with the normal SR levers....they aren't those.