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thwart
07-02-2017, 02:44 PM
A somewhat different, interesting take on weight weenie-ism.

https://janheine.wordpress.com/2017/06/30/j-p-weigle-for-the-concours-de-machines/

bicycletricycle
07-02-2017, 02:50 PM
Brian built a leightweight last year, no drillium though, 19lb with fenders and racks.

http://www.chapmancycles.com/2016/12/jons-velo-leger/

thirdgenbird
07-02-2017, 03:07 PM
A somewhat different, interesting take on weight weenie-ism.

https://janheine.wordpress.com/2017/06/30/j-p-weigle-for-the-concours-de-machines/

Wow, I've been dreaming about a very similar build. I had pictured white industries cranks but the rest is darn near spot on.

mtechnica
07-02-2017, 03:33 PM
Would ride

rnhood
07-02-2017, 03:46 PM
I'm not a big fan of steel but that is one heck of a nicely thought out and executed bike. Not sure what this bike cost but, if it was competitively priced the waiting list would probably be 10 years. Highly desirable.

93KgBike
07-02-2017, 04:06 PM
Ok, but I'll bet the rule is inverse proportional for facial hair, so probably a wash, overall.

weaponsgrade
07-02-2017, 04:08 PM
That's amazing considering it's all metal, no carbon, and all the accessories. Nice to see that the drilleum is holding up under serious riding. I think my favorite might be the drilled crown race. Haven't seen that one before.

Clean39T
07-02-2017, 04:15 PM
Very nice.

Mzilliox
07-02-2017, 06:30 PM
I've been following the whole comp. It's rad. This bike and the Chapman are very well thought out

colker
07-02-2017, 09:31 PM
These bikes are the true high end of the cycling world imo.

fbhidy
07-02-2017, 09:52 PM
Brian built a leightweight last year, no drillium though, 19lb with fenders and racks.

http://www.chapmancycles.com/2016/12/jons-velo-leger/
That is a mighty tall head tube! Are those 650b wheels?

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R3awak3n
07-02-2017, 09:59 PM
I'm not a big fan of steel but that is one heck of a nicely thought out and executed bike. Not sure what this bike cost but, if it was competitively priced the waiting list would probably be 10 years. Highly desirable.

well, Peter's wait list is not 10 years but is very very long and it is not cheap... but you definitely get what you pay for.

fiamme red
07-11-2017, 12:17 PM
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2017/07/05/concours-de-machines-results/

Second place went to J. P. Weigle’s randonneur bike. At 9.7 kg (21.4 lb) fully equipped –including the handlebar bag, spare tubes and tools – it also received the prize for the lightest bike. (The bike alone weighs just 9.1 kg / 20.0 lb.)

I am proud to have been involved in this machine, both as a supplier of components and as the rider. The bike gained points for its light weight and many custom features. It completed the challenging course without any problems – I didn’t carry any tools except spare tubes, since everything counted in the weight. The Weigle also was among the first finishers each day, so it avoided penalties on both counts. What it lacked compared to the winner was “innovation” – most of its features, whether the ability to be disassembled for Rinko, the SON SL generator hub without wires, or the switch on the stem that operated the headlight, had been seen before.

roguedog
07-12-2017, 09:56 AM
That is an awesome bike. Way rad. Love the balance of lightweight to function and longevity.

adampaiva
07-12-2017, 10:07 AM
not the Concours bike, but I was riding in Peter's neighborhood on Sunday and he saw us and caught up and rode with us for a while. He was on his personal bike, also light blue. It was the most beautiful bicycle I have ever seen in my life. I was really just completely blown away by it. I am very much coveting a Weigle now.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4280/35019517683_a4ab6b8fea_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VmybxD)20170709-DSCF8538.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VmybxD) by Adam Paiva (https://www.flickr.com/photos/adampaiva/), on Flickr

ColonelJLloyd
07-12-2017, 11:15 AM
My 6'3" friend contacted Weigle about a frame a few years ago and was told he didn't build frames for people that tall because he doesn't like how they look. My friend was disappointed, but Weigle wasn't rude about it. If your frames are desired that much you can be pretty picky, I reckon. Take a look at his Flickr stream or anywhere else and you'll be hard pressed to find anything he made that deviates very far from perfect aesthetically speaking. If you dig that style of bike anyway.

fiamme red
07-18-2017, 06:34 PM
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2017/07/18/how-to-make-a-superlight-bike-for-the-concours-de-machines/

https://janheine.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/peter_with_award.jpg?w=640&h=481

donevwil
07-18-2017, 06:45 PM
Don't have time to read the whole article right now, but find it funny that it was first place in so many categories yet only netted 2nd overall.

fiamme red
07-18-2017, 06:48 PM
Don't have time to read the whole article right now, but find it funny that it was first place in so many categories yet only netted 2nd overall.That's explained.

You may wonder why the J. P. Weigle didn’t win first prize. The bike scored lower in three areas that were less about the quality of the bike, but were an important part of the Concours:


People’s Vote: 6th (out of 24). Most of the visitors were amateur racers participating in that weekend’s cyclosportive, and they probably voted for other, more “modern” bikes.

Builders’ Vote: 7th. I don’t think it’s fair to ask the builders to vote, since it’s in their interest to vote “strategically” to give their own bike the best chance at winning.

Paperwork: 15th place. Each builder had to submit a presentation that documented the construction of the bike and explained its features. Peter Weigle was so busy building the bike that he didn’t take photos during its construction, and the bike was finished only the evening before the event. We put together the presentation on the train ride to Ambert…

donevwil
07-18-2017, 06:52 PM
OK, now it's even funnier.

mhespenheide
07-18-2017, 08:30 PM
My 6'3" friend contacted Weigle about a frame a few years ago and was told he didn't build frames for people that tall because he doesn't like how they look. My friend was disappointed, but Weigle wasn't rude about it. If your frames are desired that much you can be pretty picky, I reckon.

Any independent businessperson has a right to accept or turn down any commission. But that seems off to me (as someone who's 6'4"). Tell me that you don't have the experience to nail the geometry for that size, or give me your best effort to make something that comes as close as possible to your aesthetic ideals -- particularly since I'm (presumably) chasing those same aesthetic ideals, if I'm trying to buy a Weigle frame.

SamIAm
07-18-2017, 10:37 PM
I'm 6'3" and Peter has built 2 frames for me over the years.

Drmojo
07-18-2017, 11:43 PM
do I need a dedicated rando bike?
do i want one
peter b has a JP
but he does not ride
I just broke my hip
AGAIN
so no riding for a whie
but I can still buy while recovering...

Clean39T
07-19-2017, 01:03 AM
My 6'3" friend contacted Weigle about a frame a few years ago and was told he didn't build frames for people that tall because he doesn't like how they look.

He's an Anti-Height-Ite! :eek:

Something tells me there's more to that story...

Pastashop
07-19-2017, 11:35 AM
JPW was a time trial and road state / nat'l champion back in the day, built the earliest MTBs on the east coast, and then caught the French Rando bike bug, according to a brief write-up in BQ...

interesting bit about not building a very tall bike... I guess he is 50% bike builder 50% artist. although how hard would it be for JPW to call Peter Johnson and Tom Ritchey and Lennard Zinn and talk to them about building traditional bikes for really tall people?.. :-)

sparky33
07-19-2017, 11:49 AM
That Concours bike is awesome. Details details details.

I'm not a big fan of steel but that is one heck of a nicely thought out and executed bike. Not sure what this bike cost but, if it was competitively priced the waiting list would probably be 10 years. Highly desirable.

I recall a recent BQ showing a price of 6500-7000 for the frame/fork/rack/headset/fenders. This is consistent with what I paid for the bike he built for me a few years ago. I waited maybe 6+ years, and my bike was in various stages of being built for forever. He's not in a rush.

JPW was a time trial and road state / nat'l champion back in the day, built the earliest MTBs on the east coast, and then caught the French Rando bike bug, according to a brief write-up in BQ...

interesting bit about not building a very tall bike... I guess he is 50% bike builder 50% artist. although how hard would it be for JPW to call Peter Johnson and Tom Ritchey and Lennard Zinn and talk to them about building traditional bikes for really tall people?.. :-)

I could imagine JPW passing on a commission for lots of reasons but not for size alone. Maybe he'd veto 650b (in favor of 700c) on a very large frame for aesthetic reasons... Peter is about as nice as they come, but he's clear about his vision of the bikes he likes to build.

Davist
07-20-2017, 06:13 AM
Given the seat and the dyno hub, those tubes must be so thin you can see through them, incredible. My supersix evo with 105 and c24 wheels with cages, pedals and a flat kit is 19lbs.. :eek:

Vonruden
07-20-2017, 07:34 AM
I'm 6'3" and Peter has built 2 frames for me over the years.

I have one of them and a pleasure to ride. 24.5" ctc (62cm) on the seat tube so pretty large.
http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj533/vonruden1/1D4E71F1-0463-4C53-B975-58319F8C1BEF_zpsqrhjddot.jpg (http://s1266.photobucket.com/user/vonruden1/media/1D4E71F1-0463-4C53-B975-58319F8C1BEF_zpsqrhjddot.jpg.html)

My other is a 61cm
http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj533/vonruden1/C64EF400-6A18-4CED-8215-4939558AB4E0_zpsjdslwzvq.jpg (http://s1266.photobucket.com/user/vonruden1/media/C64EF400-6A18-4CED-8215-4939558AB4E0_zpsjdslwzvq.jpg.html)

jl4069
07-23-2017, 07:18 PM
I find Jan's and Peter new bike rather interesting. Jan has touted old school small diameter steel tubes for years, and now he may have changed his mind going to larger possibly even thinner (maybe as thin as 6/3/6? They have said nothing so all we can do is guess) diameter tubes on this bike. I note a long time ago Jan tested a Weigle with a similar overall design to this one and he said it didn't plane as well for him. Be interested in wether even thinner tubes can make larger diameter tubes feels as nice as his prized 7/4/7 small tubed bikes.

fiamme red
08-04-2017, 05:30 PM
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2017/08/03/cyclodonia-on-the-j-p-weigle-from-the-concours-de-machines/

bicycletricycle
08-04-2017, 05:32 PM
I want green one, I have cash ;)

let me know :)

I have one of them and a pleasure to ride. 24.5" ctc (62cm) on the seat tube so pretty large.
http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj533/vonruden1/1D4E71F1-0463-4C53-B975-58319F8C1BEF_zpsqrhjddot.jpg (http://s1266.photobucket.com/user/vonruden1/media/1D4E71F1-0463-4C53-B975-58319F8C1BEF_zpsqrhjddot.jpg.html)

My other is a 61cm
http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj533/vonruden1/C64EF400-6A18-4CED-8215-4939558AB4E0_zpsjdslwzvq.jpg (http://s1266.photobucket.com/user/vonruden1/media/C64EF400-6A18-4CED-8215-4939558AB4E0_zpsjdslwzvq.jpg.html)

bfd
08-05-2017, 01:44 AM
My 6'3" friend contacted Weigle about a frame a few years ago and was told he didn't build frames for people that tall because he doesn't like how they look. My friend was disappointed, but Weigle wasn't rude about it. If your frames are desired that much you can be pretty picky, I reckon. Take a look at his Flickr stream or anywhere else and you'll be hard pressed to find anything he made that deviates very far from perfect aesthetically speaking. If you dig that style of bike anyway.

Is this really true?! I can't believe a builder soul turn down business based on someone being too tall?!

But if your friend wants someone who can build something comparable, and assuming he's still building, have him contact Bruce Gordon. Bruce is tall and makes an excellent randonneur style bike. But he ought to hurry as Bruce is retiring very soon! Good Luck!